MiceAge Update: Tron-morrowland and Monsters Backlot

Written by Al Lutz. Posted in Disneyland Resort, Features, MiceAge Update

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Published on April 09, 2013 at 4:00 am with 101 Comments

Spring break crowds are beginning to wane, and the Anaheim parks will soon begin a few brief weeks of slow off-season through early May. The past few weeks of busy crowds only cemented the new dynamic of the Disneyland Resort, with DCA pulling in more crowds first thing in the morning than Disneyland does as the tourists rush to get their Radiator Springs Racers Fastpass. In this update we’ll fill you in on how this changed dynamic has now altered the future plans for the Disneyland Resort, what the new projects president Michael Colglazier may be able to greenlight during his three year visit to Anaheim, as well as the current thinking on how to handle Disneyland’s 60th Anniversary coming up in 2015. So plop those Wolferman’s English Muffins in the Toastmaster and pop open that jar of premium strawberry rhubarb preserves, you’ll need your strength to make it all the way through this one.

MORE IS MORE

As DCA began opening the first new attractions and amenities in 2010 as part of its 1.2 Billion Dollar extreme makeover, the DCA annual attendance edged up slightly each year by a hundred thousand or so annually. But at 6.3 Million in attendance for 2011, after the opening of The Little Mermaid ride, it was still one of the lowest attended Disney parks in the world, aside from the truly sad Disney Studios Paris park. The goal for 2012 with the huge re-launch of the entire park was to add an additional 1 Million in yearly attendance, on top of the far more modest annual gains since 2009. But the phenomenal success of Cars Land last June, and the way most of the rest park was transformed aesthetically for 2012, blew that original estimate out of the water. The reality is that DCA added several million to its attendance for calendar year 2012, even though the new park was only open for half the year.

When the annual unofficially-official (but extremely accurate) attendance numbers are released late this spring by the T.E.A. amusement park industry trade group, the calendar 2012 attendance for DCA will peg somewhere north of 9 Million for the year. And with the very busy spring break numbers that have just come in, DCA continues to build on that stunning turnaround from 2012. Barring some unforeseen drop in attendance for Anaheim, the 2013 numbers for DCA will head above the 11 Million mark and likely surpass Epcot as the third most visited theme park in North America this year.

To be sure, a portion of that daily attendance gain for DCA is being taken from Disneyland next door, especially since Disney only counts the first theme park a person enters each day as the lone “attendance click” of the turnstiles. But this past spring break the combined parks in Anaheim were pulling in between 9,000 and 16,000 additional visitors per day compared to their year-ago numbers. And the majority of those visitors have been big-spending tourists staying in local hotels rather than the more frugal day-tripping locals and Annual Passholders. The Anaheim Resort District’s hotel occupancy rates have been sent skyward since last June, making every business owner in Anaheim’s resort area quite happy with the new DCA.

AS ONE DOOR CLOSES…

This extraordinary and long-term change in attendance and interest in DCA is now forcing Team Disney Anaheim and Burbank to rethink their plans for Anaheim’s second gate. There had always been a “Phase Two” plan for DCA’s makeover, but then Imagineering is infamous for having second phase projects which never get completed. The second phase for any theme park project usually consists of additional ideas that didn’t get funded in the first phase, or any small pet projects that key Imagineers may have cooked up during the Blue Sky phase. But Team Disney Anaheim’s sharp pencil boys had assumed that after Cars Land opened they would turn their attention back to Disneyland and green light one of the two major expansion plans that we’ve told you about in the past; either the expansion of Frontierland north of Big Thunder Mountain, or the expansion of Tomorrowland on its eastern flanks.

Monsters Vs. Muppets?

But instead of working on Disneyland next, TDA is now seriously considering an additional E Ticket thrill ride and new themed placemaking for DCA in the next few years. Taking a concept originally cooked up a few years ago for Disney Hollywood Studios in Florida, there’s now a very serious proposal to tear out the MuppetVision and Stage 17 buildings in the back of DCA’s HollywoodLand area and build a Monsters Inc. mini-land there. An all new roller coaster thrill ride would be installed in that corner, themed to the cavernous Door Hangar scene in the Monsters Inc. movie. The popular Monsters Inc. dark ride nearby would remain, although the façade of that building would get a dramatic upgrade as that entire area would be transformed into a fully realized Monstropolis environment. The open space in front of these two Monster Inc. rides, the family dark ride and the thrill ride Door Coaster, would remain to be used as the location for DCA’s popular evening dance parties. The cheap “studio backlot” theme of this area would be removed entirely, and the backside of the Hollywood Blvd. facades would be built out and repurposed as new dining and merchandise locations. The old Hollywood and Dine food court in the eastern corner would be totally reworked as an indoor “flex space” to replace the loss of the Stage 17 building currently used for special events.

Will it be door number one or door number two?

The thinking behind this sudden change in plans is not so much to keep up the stunning momentum at DCA, but mainly to prevent overcrowding in the years ahead. Although it would be possible for DCA and the entire Resort to coast on the Cars Land success for the next half decade before the next major attraction project got underway (which is exactly the type of business model they use for WDW), TDA now realizes that what DCA will quickly need is additional ride capacity. The attendance gains are so large that the mythical Phase Two that WDI always has tucked away is now actually needed from a hard-nosed business standpoint. WDI had shopped the Monsters Inc. “Door Coaster” to Team Disney Orlando over five years ago, but got a cool reception from that executive team who is notoriously unenthusiastic about building new rides. But turning the rather homely and bland corner of DCA’s HollywoodLand area into a Monstropolis mini-land is now the goal of many TDA and WDI executives.

MEANWHILE, IN DISNEYLAND…

Not that Disneyland has been entirely forgotten. While the big-budget required to build Monstropolis in DCA will require additional funding to be pulled from Disneyland’s expansion money, there is still a realization that Disneyland needs additional ride capacity as well. The expansion of Frontierland is pushed to the back burner for now, while attention turns to Tomorrowland. Borrowing a new ride system and theme to be used in Shanghai’s Tomorrowland, the second project in the pipeline for Anaheim is a Tron themed speeder bike ride using much of the old PeopleMover route. This is an idea that has been thrown around in the past, but in recent months it’s gained serious steam and is quickly nearing a green light from Burbank.

The goal here would be to add thrill ride capacity to Disneyland, while at the same time providing WDI an excuse to go in and give an aesthetic reskin to Tomorrowland and create a more modern and sleeker version of the circa 1967-77 buildings there. Tomorrowland is much like DCA of the last decade; a place that had some of the most popular and highest rated rides in Anaheim, but that wasn’t particularly attractive and nowhere that anyone really wanted to hang out for very long. Disneyland guests currently go in to cherry pick a handful of popular rides in Tomorrowland, but the land consistently ranks low on satisfaction surveys as a place that is memorable or inviting. With the addition of the Tron speeder bike coaster, Tomorrowland would be given a cohesive themed aesthetic and a far more compelling story. Particularly for the Tomorrowland project however, there’s a desire to not start serious construction until after the park’s 60th Anniversary celebration in 2015. The Door Coaster and Monstropolis project at DCA might be able to get underway before the 60th, for an opening in 2016 at the same time that the speeder bikes and Tomorrowland redo get underway.

As usual, the timing on expensive new E Tickets can be tricky to pin down until the day after the bulldozers arrive, but the suits in TDA are moving as quickly as possible on both of these projects and right now it looks like Monstropolis might begin first. In the meantime, Anaheim has its 60th Anniversary to plan for in 2015, and that will be an anniversary marked by new parades and night spectaculars rather than new rides. The first parade to be replaced for the 60th will be the Pixar Play Parade at DCA, with plans for a majorly reworked World of Color and a new night parade for Disneyland. Throw in the inevitable anniversary fireworks and plenty of kitschy merchandise, and you’ve got the basics behind Disneyland’s 60th Anniversary to begin in early 2015, as it’s currently planned.

WALK IT OFF

In the short term, the new Disneyland Resort president Michael Colglazier still needs to formally introduce himself to the salaried troops in Anaheim. That event, dryly labeled the “Salaried Business Update”, will finally happen two weeks from now during a two-hour presentation in the Hyperion Theater. Thus far Michael has been saying and doing all the right things to get off on the right foot with the Disneyland Resort CM’s. He’s even spent several days in uniform working side by side with the CM’s; most memorably in a teal green busboy uniform helping with breakfast crowds at Flo’s V8 Café, before changing into an Attractions uniform to help with the afternoon lines at the three Cars Land rides.  As we’ve mentioned before, there’s quite a curiosity about Michael in Anaheim, since he was a rather unknown executive in charge of the least visited theme park at WDW infamous for broken down rides and declining showmanship standards. It will be interesting to hear what he has to say to the salaried troops, now that he’s been out in the parks charming the hourly CM’s.

Unfortunately, one thing Michael hasn’t yet grasped or made any attempt to fix is the glaring disconnect between the average TDA employee and the Cast Members out in the parks. For example, at the Salaried Business Update the parking department will once again staff their entire fleet of backstage trams used to shuttle hundreds of TDA managers to and from the Hyperion Theater for the meeting, to prevent anyone from TDA having to walk the 0.6 miles from their office building to the DCA theater. What strikes fear into the heart of many in TDA is having to actually walk through the theme parks, lest they have to interact with a paying customer. The easy 0.6 mile walk on level ground from TDA to the Hyperion Theater on a delightful spring day surely can’t be the deterrent there, since most hourly CM’s now park in the Pumbaa satellite parking lot and walk much further than that every day.

Team Disney Anaheim, TDA

That daily Pumbaa commute for hourly CM’s presents them with a one-way walk of 0.8 to 1.3 miles from their car to their various work locations, for a total of up to 2.5 miles of walking to and from their cars for every shift they work. There is the Katella CM parking lot a bit farther out that offers shuttle service to Harbor Blvd., before a park walk of up to one mile from Harbor to a work location in Cars Land, Paradise Pier, or Frontierland. But the experience of battling the overcrowded Katella lot and then waiting to pack into a broken down shuttle bus is so unpleasant that thousands of CM’s per day choose to park in Pumbaa instead and walk over two miles to and from their cars each day. And it’s much faster than waiting for shuttles and battling traffic.

But to prevent anyone in TDA from having to walk through the theme parks, even just once per year on a slow spring weekday, they will run continuous backstage shuttles for Michael’s Salaried Business Update in a few weeks. Even the time savings of being driven from TDA to DCA can’t be the real reason, since lines up to 20 minutes long quickly develop for the shuttles before and after the meeting, while the direct walk itself would take only 15 minutes. The shuttle service is simply a case of TDA cubicle drones being entirely out of touch with what their core product actually is, operating theme parks and hotels for paying customers.

Michael won’t be announcing the Monsters Inc. door coaster or the speeder bike project at his update, and instead will stick with glossy PowerPoint shows rattling off all the impressive statistics of the last 12 months with Anaheim’s soaring visitor attendance and spending numbers that are literally supporting the entire Parks & Resorts division in North America right now. But there is a very good chance that one or both of those upcoming Anaheim projects will be announced this August at the D23 Expo across the street in the Convention Center.

WHAT A DIFFERENCE A DAY MAKES.

But one thing Michael will likely be able to discuss at his update on April 24th is the plan we’d told you about last month to host another 24 Hour Party at Disneyland on May 24th and 25th. Unlike the last 24 Hour Party to celebrate Leap Year Day last February, this event will be held in both Disneyland and DCA to help mitigate crowds. The city of Anaheim and Caltrans are waiting patiently for Disney’s final plan to alleviate the gridlocked city streets and backed up freeway that took over the Anaheim area after all the TDA executives and senior managers went home last time. The overnight party will also take place out at WDW, but only at the Magic Kingdom Park there. It all promises to be a logistical nightmare for Anaheim, especially since that is also a Grad Nite party at DCA until 3:00 A.M. We’ll stay close to this developing story to help you decide if you want to brave the crowds for this overnight event again.

Oh-kay – that should do it for today. What do you make of those two big E Ticket projects? Which would you like to see first?

I’d really like to thank the MiceAge Crew for stepping in to help keep these updates coming. I assure you that you are in great hands with the team and I couldn’t be prouder of what we’ve accomplished these past 10 years and what Dusty and team have planned for you in the next 10. Your support is what keeps us going and we are sincerely thankful. – AL

See you at Disneyland!

About Al Lutz

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  • Trumpet

    Great Update Al

    If all things go to plan, then it would be great to see this hapen. The Monstropoli area will look fantastic, but the dance parties should be held in a seperate area, so it fits in.

    Tomorrowland needs some love and care, so the proposed attraction loks good to me, and it is music to my ers that they could use the old peoplemover course.

    Thanks Again Al

    Trumpet

  • Park Hopper

    Didn’t they have a problem with the Tomorrowland buildings shaking apart when the Rocket Rods used to speed through them? I know the track would have to be replaced but wouldn’t the problem with the structures remain?

    I don’t know if Monstropolis is going to be much competition for Harry Potter opening just up the road. What will the TDA suits think if DCA attendance falls flat after the next big expansion due to competition from Hogsmeade?

    • disneyland255

      Al did mention portions of the people mover track would be used. I would think that if this was an issue with the buildings that they would tear out the track inside the buildings and only use the outside track.

      • MrsMonroe

        but shouldnt tron be indoors to reflect the movie’s theme?

    • CaliforniaAdventurer

      Sounds good, but like you said, hardly a “Potter Swatter”, right?

    • danielz6

      The introduction of transformers had 0 effect on Disney’s attendance and is a better attraction than forbidden journey in many peoples opinions!

      • danielz6

        I don’t think universal will be serious competition for Disneyland until it can significantly expand its theme park space…maybe purchasing the adjacent golf course.

    • DLFan1995

      “Didn’t they have a problem with the Tomorrowland buildings shaking apart when the Rocket Rods used to speed through them? I know the track would have to be replaced but wouldn’t the problem with the structures remain?”

      No, there was no issue with the structural integrity of the buildings with Rocket Rods. But, that’s probably not an issue overall as they won’t be using any of the old track for the new ride anyway.

  • LoveStallion

    Really great update, Al. A fascinating read. I envy you having such great sources!

    I’m not huge on this new Pixar land trend, to be frank. Cars land sort of worked because it is at least evocative of the great deserts of the West (not really California-esque desert scenery, but whatever). Monstropolis makes no sense at all, and just like so many of these franchise attractions, can just arbitrarily be put anywhere. In this case, DCA. But there is nothing inherently Californian about it. They should just re-theme the land as Emoryville. 😉

    However, I do agree that the northeast corner of Hollywoodland is a sorry, sorry place, and has been since opening day in 2001. It’d be good to have it get some attention that doesn’t just involve evening dance parties. And Hollywoodland is bereft of any real rides, save Tower of Terror, which very much feels like the add-on it is.

    I do dispute defining the Monsters, Inc. ride as “popular,” though. It is obviously doing better than Superstar Limo (honestly, the most mind-bogglingly horrible ride Disney has ever produced), but I wouldn’t really call it a crazily popular ride. It feels like an afterthought and its attendance supports that.

    As for Tomorrowland, I’m curious as to what they fully envision for a light cycle coaster on the Peoplemover tracks, especially considering the lessons learned from the Rocket Rods.

    Regardless, I hope Tomorrowland gets more than some new paint and fascia. If it means waiting a few extra years, it’s worth it. The place needs to be hit with a cleaver, not pruning shears.

    Again, wonderful update. Really informative. Thanks.

  • Eric Davis

    Thank you Al for the wonderful update! It is crazy to think that i have been reading MiceAge for 10 years.

  • xboxtravis7992

    Interesting rumors.

    I like the idea of a Tron ride. And if parts of the Peoplemover are put into use for it, I think many, many Disney fans would be happy. I wonder if a rollercoaster attraction is subject to the same OSHA rules the Peoplemover is?

    However I am most happy that they are considering a facade renovation in Tomorrowland, that is what the land really needs to be great. As mentioned, Tomorrowland is like DCA 1.0; lots of great rides (Star Tours and Space Mountain) but horrible facades.

    Monster’s Inc land sounds a bit weird IMO, I wonder if their is enough space to make it feel different from Hollywoodland? Something about the Red Car doesn’t seem to fit with monsters. However Monsters Inc would be more exciting than the current dance parties, Muppet Visions, and closed of sound stages.

  • MrGoat

    Wow, exciting stuff! Thanks Al!

  • TifaOnACloud

    I echo LoveStallion. While that area of the park needs a lot of TLC, Monstropolis isn’t the answer. Already two lands are devoted to Pixar properties which have little to do with the California theme, but at least still sort of fit. Monstropolis doesn’t at all, and this coming from someone who loves Monsters Inc. The land should be 30s Hollywood, through and through, but unfortunately it’s always easier just tying into tried and true properties which happen to be getting sequels at the moment.

    I’m liking the Light Cycle idea, though I trust it means reworking the track properly this time, given the issues of Rocket Rods? Not only would it return the much needed kinetic energy to the land in possible race form, but it’s a nice little tribute to one of my favorite parts of the Peoplemover – the Tron room.

    • LoveStallion

      Thank you for your echoing. 😉

      Of course, the bigger question that I have been asking since sometime in 1999 is why would you want to build a theme park about California … in California? Is this not the same Disney that initially omitted Pirates from the Magic Kingdom because they thought piracy was too much of a reality in Florida, and, therefore, lacked the fantastical?

      But we know that most of the conception of DCA was misguided and now the Parks dept is just tidying up what it’s been given.

      And now I feel like I’m trolling this thread. Apologies all around.

  • rstar

    I would prefer they look at updating Tomorrowland in DL before doing anything else at DCA. But it’s all rather exciting, just the same! Thanks, Al for another wonderful update, and all of your work as far back as the DIGs!

  • I like both concepts, Tron and Monsters. But it’s been so long since anything new has come to Disneyland that I hope they revise their plans and do the Tron project first. I love the idea of them keeping the current PeopleMover route, though, I suspect that those tracks will need to be rebuilt.

    Disneyland is turning 60, it would be a real shame if they missed another major anniversary. I’d think there is more that they could do! Come on Disneyland, do something spectacular for the 60th!

    • Dizzey

      Same here. Ride vehicles zipping overhead and through other attractions still says “Tomorrowland,” it would be a good nostalgia tick for us old guys, and would bring back some of the lost ambiance/cool factor of TL.

      Kinda funky to have a “door room” in the current Monsters Inc., and then a coaster “door room” right there as well, though. I guess little kids wouldn’t ride both rides and therefore need some explanation.

  • mcow1

    Great update, Al. Seems to me the 24 hour party update timing is pretty weird. May 24th and 25th is Memorial Day weekend. Why would they want to do something like that on what is already a very crowded weekend?

    • lovechows

      I had the same reaction–that weekend is already very busy at the parks and they are planning Opa! as well. It really makes me wonder if TDA looks at their calendars when they make these decisions-lol!

  • jcruise86

    You Tron fans are certainly an enthusiastic group. Small, but enthusiastic.
    The first Tron movies has some special effects that looked cool in 1982,
    but it was a bad movie. I’m not being a troll, it
    really
    was
    mediocre at best.
    And I’m a Jeff Bridges fan.

    The sequel, “Tron Legacy” earned a Metacritic score of 49. I rarely see films that earn scores this low. It was not a blockbuster.

    Now that Disney spent many billions for Star Wars and Marvel, it’s time for Rasulo, Iger, Staggs and Crofton to all step aside, and for (with his Universal contract expiring) Steve Burke to come back home to Disney. R.I.S.C. is too risk-averse to handle these (yuck) brands. Burke built the Wizarding World of Harry Potter, now he should try to top that at Disney. And a Star Wars adventure should be totally new. Let the movies chase an amazing attraction.

    • LoveStallion

      Yeah, Tron is kind of a yawn, even if it is visually cool.

      But Disney doesn’t have much sci-fi in its stable, so it leans on this. What else will it do, The Black Hole?!

      • There is another . . . in a galaxy far far away.

      • lovechows

        Yes, Dusty, I second that!!! With Episode 7 finally being developed, it would seem the most relevant (and my favorite).

      • Marko50

        Well, actually, aren’t they going to reboot The Black Hole?

        And I liked Tron. And although the movie may not have been a hit, the video game sure was! Too bad those joysticks were so hard to keep in working order.

    • Uncle Bob

      I’m not a big Tron fan, but I still like the idea. The one strong thing it has going for it is its futuristic aesthetic. Additionally, the light-cycles are very well known, probably the only thing many people remember about the film. Any thrill ride is going to popular, so I don’t really think this needs to be a draw just based on the popularity of the franchise; If it’s going to be a good ride it can stand on its own. And this seems to be the one aspect of Tron that everyone wants to experience themselves. It’s actually nice to see them choosing a film that fits the land rather than the most popular one they could try and find a way to squeeze in.

      • whydoyoucare

        Thank you sir, well said.

    • whydoyoucare

      Not a troll huh,

      Then why even bother posting statistics? Is this simply for you to emphasize that it wasn’t as great so you can get a kick out of this? I’m sorry but your statement seems contradictory to what you say regardless of being a Jeff Bridges fan, this was uncalled for & unnecessary.

    • Nocturne

      I’m a big fan of TRON Legacy. I know it was panned, mainly because of story and acting (yes those are important). The main factors Disney cares about are aesthetic and experience. TRON delivers that in spades. Everyone can admit that the TRON aesthetic will really improve Tomorrowland and will never suffer the stale feeling that past incarnations have presented. I am confident that TRON is the aesthetic solution that Disney has been working so hard to achieve with Tomorrowland.

  • WDWorldly

    1) Maybe they’ll upgrade the Monsters, Inc. dark ride to Tokyo’s “ride and go seek” version.
    2) Hopefully they aren’t forgetting the added theming needed at Paradise Pier, and improving/placemaking the rest of Hollywoodland, especially the Hyperion

    • LoveStallion

      It’s a nice idea to upgrade Monsters, Inc., but I see a few hurdles, mainly:

      1) Disney stateside is cheap. The Oriental Land Company throws money at stuff and doesn’t care. DisneySea cost $4 BILLION to build the same year DCA cost a little over $1B.

      2) Available space. Imagineers are on the record that even the current adaptation of Monsters, Inc. in the old Superstar Limo space was difficult. Do a side-by-side comparison on Google Maps at the same elevation of the Tokyo and Anaheim rides. Tokyo’s surface area is substantially larger than what is available in Anaheim, and unfortunately, the Anaheim building is located in a location that doesn’t really lend itself to expansion.

  • StevenW

    I wonder if the tram story is an exaggeration. People are not sheep. They won’t all follow directions to use the tram especially if they can walk and many will.

    The stories on DCA and Tomorrowland is good. For the Tron speeder bike coaster, they have to solve the problem of the unstable People Mover tracks. I am not convince the People Mover tracks can be used “as is”. They have to reinforce the tracks or have the new tracks superimposed on the tracks and self-supporting.

    The Monster coast sounds like another Mad Mouse type coaster that fits into a small space. Another kiddie ride. Not exactly a crowd absorbing ride.

    • lightofdarkness

      It is not an exaggeration. They wait in line longer than it would take them to walk. Al reported on this last year.

  • Illusion0fLife

    I agree with the general consensus that Monstropolis is not right for that section of the park. Monstropolis is a fantastic environment and has always absolutely begged to be recreated in a theme park, but tacking it on as a subland of Hollywood Land seems thematically lazy.

    What I’d rather see them do is combine the show building of Mike & Sully to the Rescue with Stage 17, add a more elaborate indoor queue themed to Monstropolis, and put the Door Coaster in there, perhaps recycling some sets and animatronics from the original attraction. I’m also of the mind that Muppet*Vision is worth preserving because it was the final Muppets film Jim Henson directed before his death and it’s also just a really great show that still holds up to this day. By all means, plus the effects, add a more interesting facade (my vote goes for a version of El Capitan in reference to the new film), but keep the show.

    As for the TRON Lightcycle ride, I’m in wait and see mode. TRON attraction proposals have been on again off again since Legacy came out so I’m not going to care too much either way until something official is announced. That being said, Tomorrowland is really due for a retheme, and TRON might be a nice inclusion.

    • LoveStallion

      Perfectly stated – “thematically lazy.”

  • lightofdarkness

    The thing I took away from this is that both projects have a slim chance of happening. Neither project may start until 2016? When Colglazier is on his way out and Iger stepping down in 2015… no way. If neither of these projects break ground in the next year and half they aren’t happening.

    • jcruise86

      I doubt Iger will step down in 2015 because’s making 30 million a year running Disney. He looks 49 and he’s married to Willow Bay. I’ll put on my Bernie Brillstein hat and speculate that he set up Thomas Staggs to fail, wasting a billion on MyMagic+ Famcuff bracelets that will debut and be criticized in 2014. Staggs, a former CFO with no storytelling experience will be seen as not the best person to be in charge of Disney. Then guess whose arm will be twisted into staying head of Disney for three to five more years? Mr. brand, Bob Iger. (Fun fact: you know who else is into branding above all else, Sasha Grey. Not the best company.)

      • whydoyoucare

        WTF? this branding comment came out Waaay off out of nowhere.

  • eicarr

    Tron is going to ROCK!!!!! Its artistic concepts are AMAZING and fill up tons of art books.

    Monsters inc though is a dry concept relying on bland visual commentary on the real world. The sushi bar and city streets inside the current ride puts me to sleep, and I have a bad feeling about stretching that weak concept over an entire mini land. They’ve reached the bottom of the barrel with Disney cartoons.. Time for more rides and attractions based on OZ, Marvel and Star Wars.

    Marvel and Star Wars themed areas would bring massive crowds. I’ll be spending more time/money at the new Universal Hollywood’s Harry Potter, if the best they can do is a princess Faire and monsters inc ride.

    • QPerth

      I only really know of one TRON book, can you please let me know e names of some others, I agree, it’s artistic concepts and aesthetics are STUNNING, they were not only ahead of their time, they still heavily influence many things not film related, to this day.

  • The International

    Is there some reason this post is written by Miceage generally and not Al Lutz? Am I missing something? It looks like Al’s update’s category has also been renamed.

    • Al mentioned at the bottom that this report was pulled together by the MiceAge crew. Al is unable to write these updates alone due to chronic health issues. He has requested that the articles be published under the “MiceAge” name so all the folks who contribute are recognized and so these updates can continue regardless of his health. He hopes to continue contributing for a long time, but if that is not possible, his legacy will continue with these MiceAge updates. We are so thankful that we were able to award him his honorary window in February, and that he was able to attend the ceremony.

      • RodeToad

        Here’s hoping Al’s health improves soon!

      • jcruise86

        Get better, Al!

        I had the pleasure of sitting next you at Knott’s Pre-Scare Boo-fet three or four years ago. I want to see you back there.

  • scarymouse

    Wow this is a lot to take in,I agree with Dusty and that Disney should be thinking of the 60th and getting some of the t-land projects on the way.You can’t forget the park that got the whole thing going.Tron is O.K. but really anything would be a plus.New parades and nighttime shows will only take you so far,and yes I will be a sucker for the Merch. That said DCA’s Hollywoodland area is boxy and industrial.Kinda Universalish, If that’s what they originally went for,they succeeded .A new rework for this area is spot on. Not sure about Monsters inc. and how it fits in Hollywood but anything is better than whats there now. Its nice the suits are concerned with overcrowding and want to fix what they messed up in the first place.Bottom line is more rides and attractions for us the fans and that’s always a good thing. Sooner the better,it would be nice to have Disney get on the “get it done plan” like Universal in Florida.

  • Westsider

    Great update Al. Don’t forget, there’s also the Ball CM Parking Lot that requires a long walk. I’ve tracked that walk from Ball CM Lot to work locations in Critter Country or New Orleans Square at just over one mile, for a total of two miles per day walking to and from my car. CM’s on the west side of Disneyland are assigned to the Ball CM Lot and are simply expected to take that long hike daily, including two tall stairwells up and down in the Mickey & Friends parking structure.

    It’s not surprising TDA won’t walk through the parks once per year, and as you say for only six tenths of a mile on a nice spring weekday. They are either terrified of being in the parks, or simply think it is beneath them and their work in TDA is of higher quality than anything happening in that amusement park south of their office building. Just wait for the next shuttle TDA, you’ll be safer!

  • RodeToad

    It has been so well known, and well so documented, not only on “fan” websites like this one, but also in the “general public” press at large, that Tomorrowland needs major help and it needed it yesterday.

    A new ride, with a new ride system, and a new “look”, would be a great start. Waiting another half-decade or likely more, before any changes would come to fruition, would be very disappointing. “Waiting” to even get started on construction until after the 60th advertising campaign, would bring a very sour tinged edge to any possible celebration they could hope to have. Here’s to hoping Tomorrowland gets the attention it needs sooner rather than later.

    Thanks for another great update, and looking forward to all of the future updates to come!

  • JiminyCricketFan

    I am disappointed that the 60th anniversary is getting so little attention. The idea that we make decisions by spreadsheet, thinking that capacity was the only issue to consider, shows that the people who manage Disney are clueless. People went to the 50th celebration of Disneyland not because of the fireworks or parade, but because of the emotional connection to the place. Tomorrowland is an eyesore right now. For those who had fond memories of the land come back to see no progress in ten years, they will only conclude that Disneyland of old was much better than today.

    I like the idea of Monsters Inc coming as a land to DCA. I question the location, as the back streets of Hollywood, which is a back street, is a poor location to draw crowds. It seems the location is just because years ago they replaced that horrible Hollywood ride with a Monsters Inc themed ride. So now that is going to be another change more thinking they can save money by reusing rather than a master planned theme park.

  • Jim1013

    Not sold on the light cycle concept due to the height restrictions on other booster bike type rides like Pony Express at Knott’s and Steeplechase at the new Coney Island pier; the restraints are uncomfortable at best. If they do move ahead they should build a new, structurally sound track with a thrilling new design. Tron light cycles outdoors among trees and water doesn’t seem quite right.

    The California theme at DCA is already loose, a Monsters mini-land wouldn’t really seem that out of place.

  • a-mad

    Wow… some huge news – but as much as I trust the sources of this info, it seems like stuff has been “in the works” for several months (wasn’t it just Nov or Dec that it was pretty much a given that Innoventions would close in February and begin to be torn down/retrofitted for the soon-to-be announced Iron Man attraction?)

    Don’t get me wrong… I love both of these projects – in fact, I’ve been dying for one of the parks to get a door coaster from Monsters Inc – perhaps one of, if not the biggest scenes in ANY Disney or Pixar animated film that screams “ATTRACTION!” I’m hoping that the space is large enough to create a truly spectacular attraction. I’m glad that they are keeping the dark ride, but hopefully not at the expense of a hugely immersive, thrilling attraction.

    As far as Tron is concerned, I think this could be really cool – esp. in conjunction with all that great space utilizing the PeopleMover track. I’m torn as to whether this should be “outdoor” or “indoor”. I would hate to cover this track, as I think it would be unsightly to have all this open space that felt so kinetic and alive in the past, all of a sudden enclosed – and yet as someone mentioned above, in order to truly make it Tron-like and memorable, you almost have a good chunk of it be indoors so you can make it dark, and use the glow lights, etc. Perhaps their plan is to do both.

    It seems like DLR has been haggling over these major projects for a long, long, time. The last major new ride/expansion was DCA 2.0…but that was announced years ago, and was years in construction… I know they’ve wanted to see how its opening affected the resort – but even then, it seems like they’ve been waffling over so many attraction ideas (Iron Man? Oz? Star Wars?) that they’ve been losing precious time… hopefully we’ll get a firm announcement in August, and work will commence!

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  • DLFreak71

    Monster’s Inc is popular? Isn’t it a walk on ride?
    Are they banking on the “sequel” of Monster’s Inc.
    henceforth a larger Monster’s area?

    I think something better could come in that area.

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  • Michael Greening

    I’ve been saying for years that the door sequence of Monsters Inc. would make a great roller coaster. I’m glad I’m not alone in that thought. I’ve also been saying that they need to build a Harry Hausen’s restaurant. I hope that happens too.

    Being a business owner, I still don’t understand Disney’s corporate mentality of not wanting to spend money. Cars Land proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that if you spend the money and build it right, the crowds will come and they will spend the money. It’s blowing away all their expectations, so my thinking is, Just spend the money and do all the improvements, no matter what the cost. It will pay for itself.

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  • Wren

    Bit disappointing that they’re prioritizing more DCA stuff over Tomorrowland.

  • kat3010

    Thanks Al and the Mice Age for a great report

  • stitch1085

    Oh forget it, let’s just change the name from Disney California Adventure to Disney Animation Adventure! That way anything can go anywhere, Monsters, Mermaids, Cars, Bugs, some of the attractions might be out of place (like Tower of Terror and California Screamin’ but who cares certainly not Disney!) BTW does anyone else think that the lagoon in DCA looks horrendous because of the eye sore World of Color equipment? When are they going to fix that! YUCK!

    • LoveStallion

      It won’t be fixed. I wish there was a way to lower the “tide,” sorta speak, but that’s just how it is now. I agree, it somewhat ruins the aesthetic.

  • JiminyCricketFan

    I guess the heroin monkey of DCA is still on the back of Disneyland.

  • choco choco

    Regarding TDA being out of touch…one of the mistakes Eisner made was in moving TDA back there in the first place. Eisner is a huge architecture buff and he knows as well as anyone the effect space and environment has on a person’s mindset.

    By putting that massive building back there and then attaching an exclusive parking lot to it, he essentially isolated the administration workers from the resort they were operating. Now they could drive into their plum parking structure and walk into their office and leave the same way without ever batting an eye at a front line cast member or guest. This separation builds a sense of superiority and smugness for the white collar folks.

    I don’t think this is ever gonna change unless they move TDA again, or at the very least have them at least park somewhere where all the other cast members park. Mingling is one of those trendy words in business these days, as it is believed to spur creativity and lead to a more equitable working environment, and unless TDA embrace that idea, the “suits” are always gonna be out of touch.

  • Spongeocto4

    Thanks for the update.

  • themur

    I imagine one of the reasons the Monstropolis project might happen first is that a construction project in that area would probably be much easier. Not much traffic; easy to wall off without impacting guests.

    Work in Tomorrowland (whatever they do) will be very complicated and disruptive. We all would have hoped for something to already start; let’s hope that they firm up some plans; get some funding and get something started soon.

  • Tinkbelle

    I think Monstropolis would be a big mistake. I know that I have no interest in seeing that go in. They need to come up with a better plan.

    Tron is not a bad idea, but I think something with Stark Industries is another worthy possibility.

  • WookieCookie

    This is what I’d like to happen:

    Tomorrowland: Iron Man E-Ticket in place of Innoventions, possible Tron light cycle ride too and a total facelift in theming.

    Hollywoodland: Enable Phase 2 of DCA 2.0, in other words, theme it completely to 1930s Hollywood. We already have the Red Car Trolley and Tower of Terror working in favor. Also in the backlot subland, build the Monsters Inc. Coaster but NOT the whole Monstropolis (seems like a backwards step for the California theme)
    As for Muppet*Vision 3D, I think it should go the way of Star Tours: The Adventures Continue; revamp the whole attraction into a full fledged 3D sketch comedy show (after all, that is what the Muppets are famous right?). Create multiple sketches featuring different characters (Gonzo’s stunts, Miss Piggy’s singing/acting, Fozzie Bear’s jokes, Walter’s whistling, etc.) Have Kermit host the show, just as he would do on The Muppet Show, and have it comprise of an intro, three sketches and a finale. Each show would change randomly just like Star Tours does now. Of course, every now and then, the original Jim Henson film would be presented in lieu of the “cancelled” sketch show. That’s the solution for Muppet*Vision 3D.

    • Bfscott77

      LOVE your Muppets idea!!!

      • WookieCookie

        Thanks! Its been lying in the ol’ noggin for a while. 😉

  • Screwy Squirrel

    God Bless you Al. You created this place and we hope and pray you are here in ten years and beyond to see where it goes under the stewardship of Dusty, Fish and the rest.

  • Bfscott77

    Tomorrows and does need an overall facelift. What happened to taking out the subs, innoventions and autopia and using that space for an E-ticket? Wasn’t that the rumor awhile back? The best thing about Tron is the visuals, but not much story. If they could use the visuals and add story, I’d be fine with that.

    Monsters, Inc. in Hollywoodland just doesn’t fit. Period. This area is begging for something new – there is a bit of land in the Studios Backlot if the buildings that aren’t used are taken down as well as the Monsters, Inc. ride … and if you spill out to the bus parking area. Something new! Come on Disney, you gave us The Haunted Mansion, Pirates, Thunder Mountain, Jungle Cruse, Space Mountain – your biggest attractions were attractions long before they were movies. Hollywoodland is begging for a Film Noir style attraction with effects, lighting, theatrics!! Take Mystic Manor in HKDL, drop the monkey, give it a “Norma Desmond”/”Death Becomes Her” (yes, i said it) kind of overlay story and you have a “Haunted Mansion” for the 21st century. Yeah, it’s kind of close to Tower of Terror, but so what!! It’s would be cool to see – and would fit in great with old Hollywood!

    Anyway, that’s what I’d like to see!

    I’m still waiting for a FunHouse on the pier too!!

  • toonaspie

    I hate to sound like a Disney Park purist but…

    They…can’t…be…serious!

    Giving up Muppets for a Monsters Inc land? Why on earth?

    I mean if you thought Cars Land had little to do with California…Monstropolis makes no sense in DCA whatsoever!

    Wouldn’t it make more sense to reconvert the Monsters Inc dark ride into a Muppets dark ride? Or build the Muppets dark ride next door to the Monsters Inc ride? So many ideas to use in 1930s Hollywood landtheme. Why not get creative instead of resorting to more Pixarification? There’s only so much you can take before it becomes obvious that the TDA suits don’t really care anymore about the theming. Come on!

  • danielz6

    How about an “up” inverted roller coaster instead of monsters. Then they don’t need to build monstropolis and can keep the Hollywood theme.

  • Lewdannie

    Great update. Although these changes sound cool, they are not going to make me fly 10,000km for another visit like the opening of Cars Land did.
    We visited in Feb 2012 and just HAD to come back this year to visit radiator springs. Maybe once we get an idea of the Tomorrowland reskin.

  • DobbysCloset

    It was hard for me to get excited over new rides thinking about the parking/transportation issue.

    I love the Monsters ride if only BECAUSE of the homage to Harryhausen. I’d probably love anything that pays homage to Harryhausen, so please excuse my bias.

    There are plenty of monsters in Hollywood; just ask anyone trying to make a movie there! It’s just harder to tell who they are.

    It’s so sad that we’ve come to where everything has to be themed from a movie…if it isn’t actually a movie… Tomorrowland should be about Tomorrow — and we don’t really seem to have any imagination about what tomorrow will be like. I remember when Disneyland had “picture phones” before anyone else…that tomorrow is today. What do the kids of today think they’ll have “tomorrow?” I’m very sad and sorry…maybe there really will be a Star Wars Land if only by default, because that’s our cultural view of Tomorrow.

  • Baloo

    Interesting to hear about monstropolis, when there was talks about super star limo changing I did a sketch of a mini monstropolis taking over the limo ride and the Hollywood and done area and the stage area being completely enclosed with walls to create a small town.

    The monstropolis looks very much like an urban city so it would fit the rest of the area well.
    If done properly.

    My sketches are online just for fun I will post a link later

  • QPerth

    A great update, thanks, gives us all something to dream about.

    Although I don’t think an entire Monstopolis ‘land’ would be a good addition, unless it was mega themed and huge with lots of attractions, a ‘door-coaster’ (what would the ride vehicles be for that!?) could work, as Monstropolis needs to be accessed THROUGH a doorway. So that doorway/closet, could really be ANYWHERE. An apartment, or a hotel even. The outside building could be themed to suit the area, and the ride be ‘on the other side’. The Monster Inc. ride at TokyoDL really sticks out like a sore thumb and doesn’t suit their generally stunning Tomorrowland. But a door-coaster COULD be a great attraction.

    It’s sad they can’t seem to get the Muppets to fit there. It’s suits the area, the characters are timeless yet underused, and Muppets has SO much potential. Give them a dark-ride! They have so many exciting capers! Update the MuppetVision film, the idea of alternating scenes is a good direction, introduce Walter and some new gags. Don’t just abandon it TDA, embrace it! Heck, the merch possibilities alone should be incentive enough for TDA!

    TRON in Tomorrowlandis a no-brainer. It should have been introduced a LONG time ago. Another of Disneys own properties underutilized. So much potential. Once again, it’s another place entered through a doorway! Sure, a Tomorrowland themed entirely in TRON Aesthetics would be beyond awesome and stunning, imagine it at night! #faints But even an attraction entered through FLYNN’S Arcade is an acceptable concept. Light Cycles are just ONE of the many awesome Grid Vehicles, and probably the easiest to adapt to an attraction, and it would be awesome (especially with some speed!). I’m not sure an outside portion would work, although the kinetic energy of moving vehicles in Tomorrowland again would be great. The outside portion of TestTrack2.0 is a jarring scene shift, so out of a computer world and into outside would be a weird transition, UNLESS the outside in Tomorrowland is also TRON themed in aesthetics of the Grid, or somewhere like Argon City. And again, a HUGE merch opportunity for Disney, they really dropped the ball with TRON:Uprising on that one.
    Thanks again, and I will be keeping my fingers crossed for decent budgets and something to happen SOON!

    • whydoyoucare

      Thank you qperth, excellent suggestion & I agree. Hopefully they’ll reconsider & actually implement something from all Tron backgrounds.

      • QPerth

        Thanks! Although imagineers would know a lot of the places from the Grid, I would be very surprised if many of the suits/bean counters (being very generalistic there sorry), would have a clue as to anything TRON related. Or even Star Wars related perhaps. These kinds of things are for Story people, not numbers, budgets, graphs and figures people.
        I try and be optimistic that the Imagineers are trusted in their vision though, look at the success they had with the Cars Land Expansion when they were trusted with their vision and given a decent budget to work with! I really believe an OZ expansion done well would be a HUGE hit also. Mega MEGA potential there. And surely it would be cheaper to build these kind of things NOW (or sooner rather than later), than later in the future when building will more more expensive. And I would hope TDA have learnt from the staggered expansion plans of Magic Kingdom, where the crowd numbers haven’t increased (perhaps) to the levels they had hoped with the expense they slowly ‘expanded’ with.

  • Uncle Bob

    I commented on how I do like the Tron idea in previous response. I think it has a great look and feel for the land and the most appealing aspect of both movies is definitely the light-cycles. That’s going to be popular no matter what you think of the movies and personally, I’m not a big fan. We’ll also get the huge benefit of a new attraction moving through the skies of TL, which will be great if it happens.

    But I didn’t have a chance to add my disappointment with the Monster’s stuff. The idea of sticking in another mini-land and turning Hollywood Land into nothing but some shows and one thrill ride is pathetic. I really hope this doesn’t happen, I was nauseous reading that. Basically I agree with much of of what’s been said already. It’s a bad fit for the park and it’s nothing but trying to expand on a mediocre attraction that never fit that well in the first place.

    I was willing to tolerate the ride as it’s a decent little dark ride and was really needed when it was built. But to expand on it is a desperation decision and putting it in in the first place was one as well, it all seems absurd. This is really sad as it will really damage the cohesion that the park finally was starting to have. I really hope that this doesn’t happen, hopefully the plans will change.

  • Disneykin Kid

    Tron fits Tomorrowland, but too bad the movies weren’t better. But the thing I’m waiting for is Star Wars, and it needs it’s own park as the third park on Harbor/Katella. Maybe combine Star Wars with Marvel. And it needs to happen soon while the excitement builds for Episode VII.

    • QPerth

      I reckon everyone is excited for a fully realized Star Wars park somewhere, I guess it’s just finding the money to build something worthy of the Brand Potential and the Disney Park name. I can’t wait as well!! I hope this comes to be sooner rather than later too, and I think that would really knock Potter from his perch (for a good while!)

  • Lobot

    Wow, now we’re back to the Tron light cycle rumor for Tomorrowland? No more Iron Man, or Star Wars? The folks at WDI must be really confused these days… even more than us poor fans.

  • bigwavedave

    It seems instead of adding another Pixarland they should improve some on the currect land. LIke it or not the Muppets show fits the land. Why not instead of adding a new sub land creating a Rockin based coaster on Hollywood. Also I had heard they planned on building some thing inthe place of the maliboomer. Any news?
    That said I like the ron idea, that actually fits a tommorowland theme. I ams till praying the rockets get moved back on top of the people mover

  • bigwavedave

    i HAD NO IDEA THE mONSTER’S iNC RIDE WAS THAT POPULAR

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  • Big D

    Well, the hanging door roller coaster sounds fun, and I’d love to see that get built, but there’s no need for a Monstropolis mini-land. The Tron racing bikes also sounds fun, but both Tron movies were pretty bad, so I’d rather just have them make an original ride. The Rocket Rods was a good idea, it was just poorly executed. Why not just give it a different name and do it right this time?

    • QPerth

      They might be- as TRON Lightcycles! #excited
      And although they are not perfect, a lot of people do love those movies as they weren’t bad at all. #ifightfortheusers!

    • Marko50

      Whether the Tron movies were good or not is actually besides the point. To prove it, I got two words for ya:

      Water World!

      (Wait…is that two words or one?)

  • Big D

    By the way, there are a couple of legitimate reasons for TDA employees to take a shuttle over to the Hyperion Theater. The first reason is that if you’re not that familiar with Disneyland backstage, it is very easy to get lost, and the second is that dress shoes are not made for walking that far. I have to wear dress clothes to work and I used to try to take walks during my breaks and they are not comfortable at all.

    • Why on earth would anyone in TDA be unfamiliar with Disneyland’s back stage? The whole reason those people are there is to support the parks. And if they are forced to dress in such a way that prevents them from walking to DCA, then we all now have a much better idea as to why TDA has such a bad reputation with the rank and file cast members. EVERYONE in TDA needs to spend more time in the parks and better understand the challenges and strengths of the entire resort. I hope Michael will make some changes and shake things up a bit. Character shifts for everyone would be a good start.

      • Big D

        Hold on a second here. I’m no fan of TDA and I do think many of them are way out of touch, but let’s be fair. Most cast members at Disneyland don’t know they’re way around every part of backstage. They know how to get from costuming, to their office, to the Inn Between, and that’s usually it. Only ODV and custodial probably know the whole backstage area because they work in every part of the park. For the upper level management at TDA, I’m sure it’s the same thing. They probably know how to get from TDA to whatever office they supervise, and that’s about it. I worked there before DCA opened so I don’t know how complicated it is to get from TDA, through Disneyland backstage, then over to DCA backstage, but I do know that getting from TDA to Harbor House is quite a hike, and it would be along a pathway that is mostly for trucks (it’s the part of backstage that you see from the train between Fantasyland to Tomorrowland with the Agrifuture sign) and it wouldn’t be the safest thing in the world. Cast Members don’t normally walk that way either, they walk through the park instead. If a parade of “suits” were to walk though the park, it would freak the guests out and make them think that something must be wrong. I understand that it’s tempting to vilify everything that TDA does but it’s really quite practical for them to take a shuttle.

    • Baloo

      I think that if you work in TDA you should be familiar with the park and its walkways including backstage areas. Also it’s not like they are going to be walking a long distance. Even dress shoes should not be a concern to walk less than a mile.

      It sounds like many of them are just spoiled or lazy if you ask me.

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  • P2XAR

    Will the new Tomorrowland include more attractions than just the Tron Light Cycles?
    Regardless, it seems like the ride will add a lot to the overall atmosphere and look to Tomorrowland…especially at Night!

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  • Baloo

    It’s actually nice to know that Hollywoodland might be getting another family thrill ride. The Monsters dark ride would be the perfect alternative for those that don’t like coasters. I am just glad to see the industrial backstage area look go away and a heavily themed area emerge

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  • Susan Hughes

    There is construction going on behind Tower of Terror and Radiator Springs Racers in the hardly used CM parking area over. Any ideas or thoughts on what’s being built? There’s a rumor that a new ride for Hollywoodland is the project.

  • topdad1

    “Borrowing a new ride system and theme to be used in Shanghai’s Tomorrowland” …
    Just what system is that? and for what?

  • FredSimmons

    I don’t like the idea of the Monsters coaster. Coasters usually have a giant footprint and take up a huge amount of land that could be put to better use as a number of other traditional rides & attractions. Coasters also divide families between those who like them and those who are traumatized by them. And then there’s the specter of Knott’s… Anyone who has witnessed that wonderful old park turn into a second Magic Mountain has to be concerned whenever another coaster comes under consideration.

    As for the Tron light speeders, it’s not a bad idea, given the ultra-cool visual style of those vehicles, and the existing People Mover track. I could see it working. However, I wonder if they would really want to base a ride on a movie that, frankly, wasn’t very successful? Most people don’t even remember the original movie, and the second film barely made back its production costs. Then again, if done correctly, the light speeders would probably work in their own right at Tomorrowland, without any support from the movie.

  • darkamor

    I welcome a TRON inspired Ride and / or Attraction in Tomorrowland a.s.a.p. (because – lets face it – Tomorrowland feels so empty with a lack luster Innoventions + Honey I Made The Audience Sleep / Captain I Held Sleepovers); along with an expansion of Frontierland (the petting zoo + theatre are a waste of space, both a Ride as well as an Attraction could fill up those areas); I just want ALL of Disneyland to be operational (and themed) for the 60th Anniversary (which is when I will finally be able to afford to return – gawd I just hope they don’t upcharge for any new experiences related to celebrating 60 years) …

    I also welcome the idea of a Monsters Inc Indoor Coaster Ride going into DCA, except I don’t think we should lose the Muppet Vision 3D Theatre (it does need some cleaning, along with a Holiday Movie) when Team Disney Anaheim can use that fake Stage (warehouse) where Flynn’s Arcade was held (if TDA wants to theme an area after the University for Monster’s Inc’s prequel? I don’t mind if a new boundary is created by eliminating some of the under used shops / dining bordering Hollywood Back Lot – provided that space is replaced by eliminating Bugs Land and whatever space is left Bugs Land can go to expland Cars Land – which is drawing more Park Guests) …

    Right now? the Walt Disney Co is on my [email protected] list – they’ve spent so much money purchasing both Marvel and LucasFilms to profit from their existing brands (because schilling over priced merchandise to kids seems more of a priority); yet didn’t waste time shuttering Lucas-Arts / Disney Interactive / Traditional Hand Drawn Animation Department (so many lay offs that it makes what Dreamworks Animation had to do this year seem like a small %) and failed to follow up on CAL-OSHA recommended changes @ Disneyland / DCA (do Park Guests like paying full price admission knowing there are E Ticket Rides & Attractions closed down? I don’t!) ….

    If part of the Walt Disney Co’s complaint is they lost revenue from home entertainment sales? Then re-think your strategy (such as stop selling over priced multi disk bundles – I sure as hell didn’t buy a blu ray player to end up with a dvd disk & know there are other consumers who feel the same way – and offer the same bonus content regardless of what consumers purchase). Same goes for offering a new blu ray version of a prior dvd release & trying to call it a diamond (or platinum) edition, yet offering less bonus content (do these ignorant execs bother to pay attention to consumer reviews online?) …..

    Conclusion – If this is what one is to expect from Bob Iger, then do us all a favor and retire a.s.ap..(thank gawd I can’t afford to become a D23 Member, because I’d be too busy demonstrating @ the Conventions). I would hope the future provides better treatment for Anaheim Cast Members (shoving the moral down the toilet is not the right direction) ….

    Thank you for updating Al – all the best in 2013

    C J

  • juhlian

    Im with the possible addition of Monstropolis. But I’d really hate to see the Muppets go by the wasteside. I agree the Muppet Vision is now old but rather than hack it how about facelift on the outside to be the Muppet Theater as in the movie. Then give it a Star Tours type reboot. Theres five seasons of material to work with reshoot famous skit that dont include guest stars then have a 20-25 min show thats has 4 to 5 random skits to make up the show. Just an idea.

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