I think I’m going to bring cookies to the Guest Relations Cast Members at Animal Kingdom. They will need the boost! What’s going on? FASTPASS as you know it will end this week (starting December 18) at Animal Kingdom, with only electronic (ie, FASTPASS+, or FP+) reservations remaining. The paper ticket system (“legacy FASTPASS”) will be turned off. This test is scheduled to last for four days, but clearly this is meant to be a taste of the future and what awaits us all.


Of course, apart from Guest Relations, the OTHER (and more important) population sure to notice the changes are those tens of thousands of visitors who don’t know it’s coming. Those who read Disney fan sites may have heard the news, but that leaves many tens of thousands of families who have no clue, and will show up at this park expecting an experience like they’ve had since FP was introduced widely thirteen years ago across the resort. They’ll still find paper tickets available at MK, Epcot, and DHS, but at DAK what they’ll see instead reportedly looks like this:

  • The paper FP machines will be turned off.
  • Those visitors with MagicBands (ie, staying at a Disney resort) were given the opportunity weeks (months?) ago to book advance reservations for rides (up to three total). Those reservations are unaffected, and can still be adjusted if desired at the in-park kiosks or via smartphone app.
  • Those visitors without MagicBands can use their park admission media, which is RFID capable, as a MagicBand equivalent for swiping in for a FP+ reservation. But they won’t HAVE reservations in advance, because they didn’t have that opportunity. So instead, they will be allowed to make same-day reservations at the digital kiosks scattered around the park (note: the smartphone app will not allow them to make reservations).
  • Both MagicBands and non-MB visitors will be limited to three ride reservations per day.
  • There are no “tiers” at DAK like there are in DHS and Epcot (in those parks, you can only reserve ONE of the high-demand rides like Soarin’ or Test Track–you have to choose which tier-one ride you want).


Which rides take FP+? Here’s the complete list: Character Greeting at Adventurers Outpost, Expedition Everest, Dinosaur, Festival of the Lion King, Finding Nemo The Musical, Kali River Rapids, Kilimanjaro Safaris, Primeval Whirl, and It’s Tough to be a Bug.

Where are the kiosks? So far, here’s what’s been installed: Kali River Rapids, Primeval Whirl, Expedition Everest, Disney Outfitters, and Creature Comforts.

The pessimist (realist?) in me wonders what will happen if people wait in line for those kiosks – and it could be a long line, given how few kiosks there are – only to discover that all the E-ticket attractions are ‘sold out’ for the day. Will there be feelings of betrayal? A storm of protests at Guest Relations?

You can see why they’d do a test like this at DAK, the “smallest” park in terms of attractions. It’s less clear why they’d do it during such a busy period. And it may make even less sense to do this when there are still shakedown-cruise bugs to work out (about every fifth or tenth reservation we make is not recognized by the system in front of the attraction, especially if made by smartphone. This is presently fixed by pulling up the reservation on the phone and showing the screen to the CM. Will this solution scale up?)


The move to electronic-only, and ditching the paper FP, will not shock many readers of MiceChat, as we’ve been saying this was likely always in the plan. The system won’t realize its full potential until it’s the ONLY reservation system in use, meaning the paper system has to go.

I think it’s also logical to assume that “advance” registrations – as opposed to those available for day-on only – will also remain only with those who have MagicBands. Doing that gives Disney a HUGE advantage. It will make everyone want to book Disney hotels. Forget 90% occupancy – they ought to be able to realize 100% occupancy on this basis alone. In many real ways, Walt Disney World is not in the theme park business, but the hotel business.

It’s not out of the realm of possibility that Disney intends to do away with Extra Magic Hours – the current hotel perk – once they fully ramp up advance reservations as the main perk for staying onsite. If they do that, and I think they will, they will be able to “save money” by saving labor and operating costs (power bill, water bill, etc) and yet keeping hotel occupancy high, or even higher.

More and more of the unknown variables in MyMagic+ are becoming known. Initially we didn’t know how many reservations per day you’d get, if the rides would be in tiers, if there would be any benefit to staying at Disney hotels for using it, and so on. We know all of that now, and increasingly it looks like they are building in massive incentives for people to use MyMagic+


Sure, it’s true that you can opt out of the MagicBands and preserve (most of) your privacy. But if you do that, you’ll lose out on some of the major benefits, like advance reservations. (Unless you can somehow have a MM+ account and make reservations but NOT use a MagicBand?)

There’s an old saying on Wall Street: don’t fight the Fed. The Federal Reserve sets interest rates for bank borrowing costs, and it’s part of their charter to fight inflation, so when the Fed decides to do something, Wall Street definitely notices so much that everyone gets jumpy on the news, and the prices of stocks seem to recognize instantly that the Federal Reserve is so powerful, it can move markets just by implying future action. Thus, it seems folly to “fight the Fed” and pretend the market will do anything other than what the Fed wants it to do. It’s starting to look to me like something similar is happening with MyMagic+ in that you certainly COULD try to buck the system, but there are so many incentives in the direction of this new program, it would be foolhardy to ignore it.

Don’t fight MyMagic+. By hook or by crook, it WILL make money. As a program Disney has invested more than a billion in, it’s just too big to fail.


I really do feel bad for the Guest Relations CMs. First all the issues with transforming the GAC card to the DAS system – yielding plenty of in-person queries and concomitant complaints – and now this. I would say this is why they get paid the big bucks, but, well, first that requires they actually get paid big bucks.

WDW Clicks – Holiday Decorations Tour, DtD Food Trucks, DAK construction

We tour the decorated campsites of Fort Wilderness, take in the holiday decorations at the Epcot Resort hotels, photograph the four new food trucks at Downtown Disney, examine the new trees now at Seven Dwarfs Mine Coaster, chronicle updates at It’s a Small World post-refurb, catch up on some additions to Space Mountain and Dinosaur, see the Lion King theater construction, and commemorate the return of zebras to Kilimanjaro Safaris.

Direct link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o4eajJq8xQ


  • billyjobobb

    So, unless I want to spend way more money than the Disney hotels are worth, I get the shaft? $400 a night for a $100 a night room?

    What’s the point of going there then? You can’t do soarin and test track the same day unless you stand in line for hours? Yeah, that’s a great idea!

    And how does all this work for the annual passholders? Why bother getting an annual pass if you spend your days at Disney standing in line?

    Universal must be licking their chops right about now.

    • jcruise86

      THANK YOU for this update, Kevin Yee!

      1. Maybe it’s a one billion dollar attempt to minimize FP
      and still allow Disney to cash in on an increasing # of wealthy hotel guests to buy their way to the front. Wait for MagicBands 2.0 !

      2. Or maybe it’s Bob Iger’s billion dollar way to have his two potential named successors (Staggs & Rasulo) be most closely tied to the equivalent of four John Carter box office bombs so he (Iger) can continue to be the best option and continue to earn
      $30 million a year
      as CEO
      AND (like Eisner before him)
      as the chair of Disney’s board that selects the CEO.

      3. Or maybe it’s just a stupid plan by leaders who were not really into theme parks themselves and assumed that technology is itself always an irresistible shiny object.
      Rides schmides! I’d have spent the money on an old school transportation system, bike paths with bridges, easy park and hotel drop off & pick up areas and rain shelters. Imagine coming home from a Disney World vacation in better shape and Disney overcoming its reputation as a haven for sedentary, overweight Americans–as was mocked on Saturday Night Live and South Park.

      I don’t like the system because we had learned to use FPs to maximize E tickets.
      New park guests might not like the system because, as it is now, it involves work-like technology with fewer rewards (e tickets) and less child-like spontaneity expected at a theme park.

      Many people still go to theme parks to have fun on rides. If only a Florida resort were concentrating more on rides in cool lands that even the smartest kids had imagined entering.

      Help us, Steve Burke, you’re our only hope!

      Or George Lucas (#2 stockholder)
      and Steve Jobs’ widow (#1),
      and Marvel guy,
      and Eisner (Still have your shares?),
      please oust RISC (Rasulo, Iger, Staggs, and Crofton.)
      They need to “spend more time with their families” and “pursue other interests.”

    • thebear

      Yes! We got a Universal comparison in the very 1st comment!

      • billyjobobb

        When they have a very, very strong competitor who is threatening to take over THEIR business, they have to be aware of what the other guy is or isn’t doing.

        Disney seems to be working in a vacuum and believing that they will always have guests, no matter what, and that the guests are there for Disney to pick their pockets at every turn.

        When Disney has overpriced hotel rooms, with little or no amenities, they have an aging park with almost nothing new…..

        Universal is building affordable hotels and investing in new attractions. Disney has neither.

      • solarnole

        Come on now Disney is always adding expensive new attractions. They added the state of the art Captain EO 4D experience at Epcot and they brought back the Tiki Room with orange juice ice cream for the 40th anniversary of the Magic Kingdom.

        They had to raise ticket costs just to pay for the improvements.

  • Wagi

    As an American currently living in Brazil, our annual trips to WDW the past three years have been through a package offered by Brazilian tour agencies because of pricing. One of the ‘perks’ is that we had a guide (not that we needed one ourselves…) that would gather everyone in the groups entry ticket and then would go get Fast Passes while we were visiting another attraction. While we always visit in the slow periods of the year, we were often able to get to partake of a few attractions worth a FP each day. We pay for the convenience of having that guide.

    The last time we were there (in October) our guide was complaining that Disney was cracking down and not wanting to allow tour group guides to get FP for their group for one specific time. For Test Track she was allowed a few at time “X”, a few more at “Y” time, and the rest at “Z” time…a span of more than an hour and a half. It’s a little hard to guide a group of people through a park when half your time is spent waiting for others in the group to either get to their FP slot…or waiting for those to get back from it. Since many Brazilians don’t speak English, a guide is a must. Seeing the large number of Brazilians that visit WDW (and many Floridians will tell you flat out that South American visitors helped save their bacon during the Great Recession…), and who do NOT stay on-site, based on the many restrictions that this program seems to be creating I’m not sure we’ll be going back this year again if we’re stuck with the leftovers from FP+.

    • Baloo

      I have an Answer for you Wagi, Disneyland resort. Although its a much smaller property the amount of attractions packed in two parks is high compared to four parks in Florida.

    • DobbysCloset

      I would hope execs in the travel industry figure this one out rather than deter large tour groups from spending money at their resort…

  • Sifferz

    MyMagic+ makes me more nervous about the parks every time I hear any news about it. Maybe this could pan out and turn out to be something great if they work out the kinks… but in its current state, it sounds like a total mess. Don’t think I’ll be hitting the West Coast parks until the dust completely settles on this insanity.

  • Susan Hughes

    Just a little suggestion to Disney…PLEASE keep this mess away from California! The Disneyland Resort is running just fine. Attendance is way up. People are happy. Don’t break something that isn’t broken.

    • jcruise86

      Thank you, Susan!

    • martinjbell1986

      Agreed! Thank you Susan!

    • DisneyDesi

      Just like WDW was running “just fine” with high attendance and happy people.

      The billion dollars spent was not intended only to be spent at WDW. While there’s physical infrastructure that needs to be built, the majority of that money was spent in research and development and creating the technology. The billion is intended for all Disney parks. Shanghai will probably be implemented with it. It is foolish to believe that it would not be coming to California. We may not want it but the fact of the matter is that it WILL be coming to Disneyland.

      When it does come to Disneyland, it would create a great incentive for people to stay in Disney’s hotels instead of the neighboring ones. I never understood why Disneyland didn’t create a FastPass system similar to Universal Orlando where hotel guests get FastPass.

      As much as we dislike it, it is inevitable.

      • DobbysCloset

        Pain….I am going to hide my head in the sand now…

      • WannaCub

        Once it hits Anaheim, with all the locals that DON’T need a hotel room, the S**T is going to hit the fan!!

      • brmarvin

        WDW has the hotel rooms to justify the system being used there. I don’t see how the three hotels in California would justify a need for it to be used at Disneyland. More locals funnel into Disneyland than from just their three hotels.

      • solarnole

        Universal Orlando had a free paper fast pass system back in the day (2000?) for all guests to use but the new system actually makes for shorter waits and faster lines.

        Guests always block the entrance to attractions waiting for their time to enter or they cannot find their fast pass or magic band. An inexperienced worker will only let one side of the line move.

        Rides load so much faster when people just walk in and go to the ride verses waiting ten minutes until your time, scanning in or showing at the entrance then doing it again at the merge point of the two lines.

        Sometimes the best solution is the most simple one. Enter here —>

  • MrGoat

    I don’t believe in “too big to fail.” Too many examples to list, that show the contrary. Disney is not immune to failure (and again, too many examples to list…).

    • FerretAfros

      EuroDisneyland? California Adventure? Walt Disney Studios Paris? Mission:Space? As far as big investments from Parks & Resorts go, they’re pretty much determined to make them work no matter what. Yes, the studio can have a flop and brush it away, but when they’re dealing with physical infrastructure changes they seem to do everything possible to keep them from failing.

      Even things that ultimately do fail, like the Disney Institute or Imagination 2.0, get some tweaks and come back with new branding as something different, even though the physical infrastructure is quite similar. I don’t expect this to go anywhere any time soon

  • Baloo

    I remember the good old days when people were not so worried about how many attractions they could pack in with fastpasses. Families just walked around the parks enjoyed themselves as a family and no need for fastpasses.
    as an Annual passholder this year again for the Disneyland resort, I haveto say that i dont use fastpass and care very little for it. I have a whole year to enjoy the parks and if i have to wait a little to get on an attraction then i do. Its not like i cant come back another time and enjoy it.

    If fastpass or Mymagic+ has to exist I’m fine with it being geared towards guests that stay in resort property or those savy enough to get to the parks early and make in park reservations. These guests are the ones paying hundreds of dollars for a short stay at the resorts and should be able to enjoy as much as possible.

    • themur

      I have to agree with you Baloo, my wife and I do the same thing at DL. As a westcoaster when I took my family to Florida it was a once in a lifetime trip. We spent hours planning what we wanted to do and trying to smash as many things in as possible. We knew we wouldn’t see it all and had to make hard choices. Many families visit the park this way.I don’t visit DL that way.

      Fastpass has always favored the annual passholder who knows how to maximize its benefits and of course this group is the most negatively vocal about the change.

      I was in Florida in November. I did not participate in any testing but I did talk to many families using the new technologies. While not a scientific survey, most everyone I spoke with really liked the tech changes are were looking forward to more functionality in future visits despite a problem here or there. I do have to give a big shout out to the main line cast members who are working hard learning and implementing all these new changes.

  • StevenW

    I can understand why they want to go paperless. What I can’t understand is why can’t consolidate the number of paper Fastpasses that they issue. For a party of 2 or more, they ought to print one Fastpass instead of a huge number. This will reduce the paper mess.

    The restriction to 3 passes a day is just weird. It reduces the benefits of Fastpass. I’m not sure if they are worth the effort. Disney should not be rationing park attractions. Their priorities are odd.

    • CaptainAction

      Oh yes, those WDW Fastpasses are SOOO expensive! WDW would have had to raise prices on cokes, food, rooms, gifts, passes, etc.

      Oh, wait, they did and do raise ALL those prices of all those items all the time!

      WDW could have planted a tree a month, if you are worried about it. Getting rid of fastpass is all about more money, less infrastructure, and pushing guests to visit undesireable old attractions instead.

      This isn’t about trees, or paperless, or anything else other than control and more money…like Obamacare.

      • Baloo

        Really? please don’t bring politics into this conversation.

        The reality is that Disney created the fastpass and they feel it is time for it to evolve. either be by removing it entirely or minimizing its use, the parks ran efficeintly and fine before fastpass there is no reason why the removal or limitation of fastpass should matter.

        There is a reason why DIsney is known for its detailed queues in attraction, all fastpass did was destroy that by allowing people to run thru the queues and attractions with little enjoyment some times. Fastpass did what cellphones, ipads and other electronic devices are doing in theme parks. Guests do not interact or take an extra minute to enjoy their surroundings

      • CaptainAction

        Hey Baloo,

        It’s hard to ignore. Read your post and replace fastpass with Obamacare.

        Things weren’t that bad before. Half the folks who didn’t have coverage were the young who didn’t want it. We needed to safeguard those with preexisting conditions and increases competition to lower price. Obamacare is blowing it all up in stages where we all pay more, get less, and nobody but Obama and the control freaks in gov’t are happy. The more we peel back this onion, the more we all groan at what we find. Those rejecting Obamacare are now at 71%.

        Fastpass and armbands mirrors all this. WDW wants to control the uninformed to have fastpasses to The Muppet Movie and Spaceship Earth. Control our vacations with handcuffs (armbands), make us all pay more for less. The more we find out, the more we all groan. I would guess from the postsw here of the folks in the know that those rejecting fastpass handcuffs are at least 71%.

  • Gregg Condon

    Question: A few years ago most of your articles were completely anti-Fastpass.

    Wouldn’t the fact that people can only make 3 reservations = LESS people using FP and shorter (or at least faster moving) stand-by lines (which is what past articles stated you wanted).

    • Kevin Yee

      Great question.

      My anti-FP stance was at its peak in 2000, maybe 2001, because first time visitors had no clue they were getting hosed. Repeat visitors were getting an outsized benefit due to ignorance.

      The current way FP+ is working seems designed to make the infrequent visitor the MOST happy. The system is quite obvious that you should make advance ride reservations (you get an email just for this when you book a hotel room. Multiple emails in fact)

      It has always been my contention that the infrequent visitor being happy is in ALL of our interests. Yes, short term I can see the argument for wanting to make the frequent visitor happy (I’m one of them). But long term, making the infrequent visitor happy yields a better park overall – more new experiences, more small changes, etc.

      In short, we ALL benefit when the target is the infrequent visitor. The newest FP+ seems to do that better than the old FP.

      So I’m at least neutral for now. Given my druthers, I’d abandon all ride reservations entirely. This has been my position since 1999, when I saw the test of FP on Space Mtn Orlando while on vacation from California. But if we’re going to have reservations, I’d rather they favor infrequent visitors while still giving SOME benefit to locals like me. Seems like a workable balance so far.

      • met19

        I’m not sure about this. Given I don’t study the theme parks as closely.

        The person WDW want to make happy is your best customer who spends the most money. I doubt this is locals, but prob frequent AP’s- they stay on property, come down mult times per year and buy stuff and food.

        The infrequent visitor who goes once every few years does not spend enough at WDW. Not saying legacy FP is fair, just pointing out who WDW should gear product line to.

        Another point is that WDW needs more D and E tickets. I disagree with the one tier one at DHS and Epcot- they are doing this to prevent alot of angry complaints at guest relations. This means that WDW does not have enough D and E tickets to really promote FP plus decision of everyone gets 3.

      • thebear

        Well said!

    • Kidgenie

      I think this quesiton is spot on. We do know a lot more about FP+ now then we did before. Also, lets not pretend that the original FP was A) universally loved by all and B) Did have its fair share of abusers who new how to take advantage of the it.

      FP+ seems to taking steps to correct that. It very well may end up reducing standby wait times. I have notice that Pirates now uses FP+ but the stand by line moves along at an acceptible rate. I am sure its moving slower because it must yield to FP+ users, but honestly, it doesn’t feel slow to me. Not yet anyway. But with a limit of only 3 perday, and with e-tickets being only one of those three (not yet at MK, but I am sure its coming), then this very well may be a means of getting the standby lines at the e-tickets moving again.

      At Epcot FP+ is forcing you to choose being Soaring or Test Track. And I chose Soaring, and then waited 40 minutes at 1pm on a sunny and very warm afternoon for Test Track. And I had to wonder, did I only wait 40 minutes because now there is a forced choice that is limiting the amount of FP+ at each of these to major e-tickets?

      Finally for the hotels, I have heard talk of eliminating extra magic hours. That speculation isn’t even a rumor yet. But Kevin is spot on that either way, this could replace or ADD to that benefit of being a WDW resort guest. Its not too big to fail, but that point is moot because its not going to fail. Its not a physical asset and as such they will continue to tweak it on the fly until they get the product that gives them the success they want.

      • Kidgenie

        one minor correction…. I have NOT heard talk or even rumor mill chatter about EMH going way. not yet anyway. Kevin speculation is the first blimp I have on that thought. Its possible though.

      • Buffett Fan

        Yes, but what’s going to stop Disney from selling Elite Levels of FP+. The “average” customer gets 3, but for $X you can go to 5, and for $X+ you can go to 8. Or if you stay in a Moderate Resort you get 5 and a Deluxe Resort gets 8 (or DVC Owners are incentivized)
        Revenue will drive this, and the equal playing field will only last so long.

      • Gregg Condon

        Great post.

        I’m thinking there are going to be tweaks made along the way. Remember about 10 years ago when they put Fastpass on POTC at Disneyland? Remember how long that lasted?

        I’m guessing that the amount of people making reservations for something like Pirates is not going to be very high. Especially for frequent visitors who know that the ride has a very high capacity. Same things apply to Peoplemover, Tea Cups, etc.

        The system is being tweaked, it will continue to be tweaked. Why would Disney fully implement FP+ on a ride like Pirates when nobody is using it?

        Granted, this is all speculation and people MAY use it for Pirates … at least until they figure out they don’t need it. If people do research before their trips they wont.

      • solarnole

        Fastpass + is actually the easiest system to scam because there is no paper ticket or physical dated hotel card needed to use it.

        With no paper record all you have to do is claim that you had em on your phone. I have already seen people doing that. It puts Disney in a no win situation where they cannot prove if the person actually has them or not because they are up in the cloud.

  • almandot

    I had no clue they were doing tiers with MM+ fast passes..

    You really can’t get a fast pass for both soarin and test track in the same day? Even if you got one at 9am and the other for 7pm?

    That…kinda blows. Especially when you get to..say… space mountain and splash mountain in the same day.

  • billyjobobb

    I think Disney saw people paying more for guided tours that include fastpass, etc and instead of trying to make it better, or easier for the groups (their guests) they realized that people would pay for things like that, and magic bands were born.

    How long until we go back to the idea that you pay for park admission, and then you pay to ride the rides. The more popular the ride, the more you pay.

    In this whole fiasco, I bet that Disney never once thought about their guests. Theirs gusts wallets, yes, but the actual guest and what they wanted, NO.

  • EC82

    This is going to confuse literally millions and millions of visitors, subjecting them to a system that even cast members don’t fully understand. Honestly, my eyes glaze over when I read all of the instructions. I can only imagine what it’s going to be like when someone with three screaming children and a weary spouse is trying to understand it all.

    Disney spent literally a billion dollars on this system? I had to go look that up and check it at multiple sources because I seriously still cannot believe that Disney spent the same amount on this as they spent creating EPCOT Center, and MORE than they spent creating Disney’s Animal Kingdom.

    THEY COULD HAVE CREATED ANOTHER THEME PARK WITH THAT MONEY! They say an expansion of the Monorail is too expensive, but they’ll spend a BILLION dollars on a ticketing system?

    Meanwhile, over at the competition, they’re spending less on truly extraordinary enhancements that the guests see and feel.

    Have you checked the cost of a Disney resort lately? Disney’s telling consumers they have to spend $4,000 to take a family to Disney World for a week, then forcing them to participate in a program no one even understands and that is designed solely to get MORE of my money? Nope, sorry. Nope.

    • billyjobobb

      When everything is about value, the blatant money grab is a big turn off.

  • DobbysCloset

    I am going to ignore the discussion because chances are I won’t visit the park until there’s a new system getting the bugs worked out of it, but I wanted to say that the offer of cookies was really sweet and I wish I could send you to the park with buckets of them.

    The idea of “tier” as a euphemism for E-ticket feels like a new paradigm in the making.

  • jl925sanders

    I go on vacation to have fun and do things randomly. That being said, I will never go on a cruise to be told when to eat, where to eat, now do this, etc. I understand, to a degree, why Disney is attempting to schedule the visit of a guest down to the minute. But adults and children get sick, want to split up to do different things, take naps, need a change of clothes the list goes on and on. I won’t even mention thunderstorms, tropical storms or hurricanes and the disruption they cause. I for one like to leave schedules, deadlines and appointments at home when I vacation. So, if in the future Disney insists on taking my spontaneity away, I just won’t play any more.

    • JFS in IL

      I agree with you. I grew up 20 minutes from Disneyland as a kid (and did my stint in college working for the Mouse). Now I live in Illinois – and have to plan traveling and dealing with the new DAS for my adult son with autism. If (when) these Bands come to the Resort then that is it – I give up.

      I think part of the problem is, sure, the suits want to squeeze more money out of the organized, compartmentalized hoards of visitors lured into the mousetrap. But part is also that so many people are trying to fit into a finite space at any one park and cram in as many rides – which can only take so many users per day – that it just isn’t FUN anymore.

      We can’t all be spontaneous and. just enjoy Disney anymore if we want to get on a decent number of rides, see a parade, greet a couple characters and have a table service meal all in one day. SIgh.

  • Haven

    I think the person who hatched the rides in advance reservations system is the same genius who decided to market “OZ The Great and Powerful” 3D Blu-ray as a stand alone purchase.
    Enough said.

  • Klutch

    Extra Magic Hours is not the benefit it used to be. Disney now has so many hotel rooms on-property, the parks are absolutely packed on EMH days. My strategy is always avoid a park on EMH days; and I’m always staying on-property.

    Thus, if EMH goes away, it’s really no big deal. People who rarely visit WDW might think it’s a good deal. But anyone who has visited WDW more than a few times knows EMH is simply the illusion of a benefit.

  • Jmd123

    Im a little confused. So is this essentially saying that Disney is making fastpass no longer an option unless you reserve things weeks in advance or stay at one of their hotels?

    • Klutch

      I don’t think so. As I understand it, you can still use a park entry card to get a Fastpass. But it’s likely there won’t be many Fastpasses available since lots of people will reserve them in advance.

    • billyjobobb

      Just like dining reservations at the better restaurants…. they’ll be offered to the “special” guests first and if there are any available times left, then they will be first come first serve to the rest. I think you might be able to get a fastpass for Toy Story next Thursday at 11:55 pm.

  • jediblueman

    I just want to point out that there are too many articles online concerned with the magic band itself rather than My Disney Experience or the software.

    The suggestion that making a My Disney Experience account and then using a card instead of a band would somehow “preserve more privacy” is somewhat misguided. They do the same thing. It is your participation in My Disney Experience.

    Unless your concern is about privacy issues from the extra features a band would have with the long range sensor (such as finding your table at Be Our Guest, automatic photos from rides, and rumored interactive enhancements to character and attraction experiences). If you somehow feel those items are a privacy concern, then yes, the physical band is part of the issue…however, even then the primary issue is what information you decided to share on My Disney Experience, which at this moment, isn’t asking for much more than a hotel reservation itself asks for. And if you’re worried about being “tracked” around the park, you never should have used a fastpass machine or Key to the World card for purchases ever. This really isn’t that different.

  • danielz6

    I would never reserve a fastpass for anything other than a tier 1 or e ticket attraction, as those attractions have low wait times anyways. So I guess many people are only going to be using 1 fastpass a day. This should actually improve standby wait times significantly, but it will limit overall the amount of attractions fast pass savy guests can experience. I was able to experience 13 attractions in each of tokyos super busy theme parks when i visited in ocober, using 4-5 fastpasses a day. If i was only allowed one, I’d estimate my attraction experience would have decreased by 40-50% because i would have waited in hour long lines for everything else!
    I would not be surprised at all if disney offered deluxe tickets where you can access more fastpasses in a day. Or how about a universal style unlimited fastpass ticket for 100% upcharge. Some people would pay it and disney would make a fortune.

    • billyjobobb

      it’s just too much of a no brainer to even think that Disney wouldn’t offer extra fastpasses for a price…..

      And that takes us back to the beginning when you bought your park admission and then you bought ticket books for the rides.

  • SiRocket

    not a fan of having to commit to one e-ticket FP for the day… they have now taken out the hard work and hustle… Making things easier and efficient is nice, but taking away items (when played by the rules) is a no no… Why not just make it paperless and reservation based… so if there are slots still open and your last e-ticket reservation/paperless scan expired, you can get ANY fb that is still available…

    Oh well…

  • ericg

    When FastPass was first introduced it was revolutionary and offered a significant improvement to the guest experience. People and fans of the parks for the most part raved about it.

    The problem with FP+ is that it doesn’t improve the guest experience. At best the impression is that it is equal to, but it is in no way an improvement and I would argue it worsens the experience for all involved.

    Instead of seeing reports from guests raving about their experience with FP+ we are at best seeing no reaction or lack luster reviews. People will acknowledge that it sort of works, but that’s also without a full scale test involving all guests. The fact that people are saying there are many kinks to work out tells me that it is not well received. No one likes a product that is “ok” but in need of many fixes. I’m not saying most people hate FP+, but they certainly aren’t going home and raving out their experiences with it.

    Therefore Kevin, I think it is very unwise of you to say that it is too big to fail. Huge things can fail and if I were a betting man I would bet that FP+ will fall apart. I guess I’m suspect that you’re staying positive to remain in Disney’s good graces rather than be truthful about how you feel. I say this because I’ve yet to meet one Disney fan that is positive about all of these changes. Not one.