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		<title>By: lgriffi</title>
		<link>http://micechat.com/6298-new-fantasyland-expansion-construction-update/comment-page-1/#comment-688</link>
		<dc:creator>lgriffi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2012 18:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Getting excited for our mid-October visit to WDW!  Looks like Casey&#039;s water play area is ahead of schedule.   Any speculation on Under the Seas and the rest of Fantasyland (except Mine roller coaster) being completed ahead of schedule or possibility for a &quot;soft opening&quot;???   Disney is saying &quot;holiday&#039;s 2012&quot; would really love to see it when we are there in  mid-October....any chances that you think that could happen?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting excited for our mid-October visit to WDW!  Looks like Casey&#8217;s water play area is ahead of schedule.   Any speculation on Under the Seas and the rest of Fantasyland (except Mine roller coaster) being completed ahead of schedule or possibility for a &#8220;soft opening&#8221;???   Disney is saying &#8220;holiday&#8217;s 2012&#8243; would really love to see it when we are there in  mid-October&#8230;.any chances that you think that could happen?</p>
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		<title>By: Timekeeper</title>
		<link>http://micechat.com/6298-new-fantasyland-expansion-construction-update/comment-page-1/#comment-654</link>
		<dc:creator>Timekeeper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are there signs around the new Casey Jr.water play area, saying that the water is recycled? 


Timekeeper]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are there signs around the new Casey Jr.water play area, saying that the water is recycled? </p>
<p>Timekeeper</p>
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		<title>By: Neu 2012: New Fantasyland - Magic Kingdom (WDW) - Seite 7</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neu 2012: New Fantasyland - Magic Kingdom (WDW) - Seite 7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2012 18:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jupiter Ramses</title>
		<link>http://micechat.com/6298-new-fantasyland-expansion-construction-update/comment-page-1/#comment-554</link>
		<dc:creator>Jupiter Ramses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 03:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Mine Train is a lot more than a roller-coaster.  In fact, that and the mountain is the easy part.  Most significantly, the ride is using a brand new rocking coaster system that is actually still in the final development tweeking stages.  There are a plethora of approvals from city, state codes to osha that have been extremely time consuming.  Then there are audio-animatronics to build as well as program, which in itself is a very time consuming endeavor, not to mention detailed lighting and custom sound recordings and coordination.  This is actually quite a complex venue and the coordination and development of each part is more extensive and complicated than you&#039;d think. Still, everyone is pushing for it to finish as fast as it possibly can.  Hope this helps a little.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Mine Train is a lot more than a roller-coaster.  In fact, that and the mountain is the easy part.  Most significantly, the ride is using a brand new rocking coaster system that is actually still in the final development tweeking stages.  There are a plethora of approvals from city, state codes to osha that have been extremely time consuming.  Then there are audio-animatronics to build as well as program, which in itself is a very time consuming endeavor, not to mention detailed lighting and custom sound recordings and coordination.  This is actually quite a complex venue and the coordination and development of each part is more extensive and complicated than you&#8217;d think. Still, everyone is pushing for it to finish as fast as it possibly can.  Hope this helps a little.</p>
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		<title>By: Jupiter Ramses</title>
		<link>http://micechat.com/6298-new-fantasyland-expansion-construction-update/comment-page-1/#comment-553</link>
		<dc:creator>Jupiter Ramses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 03:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can explain a little about the construction of the Castle Wall.  It is a system called EIFS (exterior insulating finishing system), sometimes known as Dryvit.  You see it everywhere, though you may not even realize it.  Strip malls, stores, yes, even WDW.  Its a 3 step process: The first is a plywood substrate that gets attached to the metal structure.  Attached to that is rigid fiberglass insulation and finally, over that goes a metal lath mesh and then a stucco-resin-plaster type material. Because the insulation below it can be shaped, cut, sculpted and formed easily into pretty much anything, this material is used a LOT!  Its cheap and durable.  Its quite hard and can be very convincing as other materials:  plaster, stucco, stone, wood, brick, anything.  The Castle &#039;stone&#039; walls will look very realistic when they are done but will cost a fraction of what it would be to use real stone veneer on the walls.  And they wont need tuck-pointing, sealing or other maintenance that real stone would need.  I noticed that Gaston&#039;s tavern will also have a lot of EIFS details in the form of brackets, beams, etc. 
Just thought I&#039;d share a little insight as to what&#039;s going on construction-wise.  :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can explain a little about the construction of the Castle Wall.  It is a system called EIFS (exterior insulating finishing system), sometimes known as Dryvit.  You see it everywhere, though you may not even realize it.  Strip malls, stores, yes, even WDW.  Its a 3 step process: The first is a plywood substrate that gets attached to the metal structure.  Attached to that is rigid fiberglass insulation and finally, over that goes a metal lath mesh and then a stucco-resin-plaster type material. Because the insulation below it can be shaped, cut, sculpted and formed easily into pretty much anything, this material is used a LOT!  Its cheap and durable.  Its quite hard and can be very convincing as other materials:  plaster, stucco, stone, wood, brick, anything.  The Castle &#8216;stone&#8217; walls will look very realistic when they are done but will cost a fraction of what it would be to use real stone veneer on the walls.  And they wont need tuck-pointing, sealing or other maintenance that real stone would need.  I noticed that Gaston&#8217;s tavern will also have a lot of EIFS details in the form of brackets, beams, etc.<br />
Just thought I&#8217;d share a little insight as to what&#8217;s going on construction-wise.  <img src='http://micechat.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Twist1234</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twist1234</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 01:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A simple solution to the fence problem would be to replace a section of the flooring with a padded material and put some thick plexiglass to block the train itself, so if kids climb it they can&#039;t get into the locomotive or when they fall they don&#039;t injure themselves, sorta like what they did for the Cars section of Art of Animation just with plexiglass.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A simple solution to the fence problem would be to replace a section of the flooring with a padded material and put some thick plexiglass to block the train itself, so if kids climb it they can&#8217;t get into the locomotive or when they fall they don&#8217;t injure themselves, sorta like what they did for the Cars section of Art of Animation just with plexiglass.</p>
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		<title>By: Dusty Sage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dusty Sage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 20:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mostly that it was the last item to begin construction and there is a lot of rock work and show scenes to construct. It isn&#039;t going to take much longer than Mermaid took to build, it just didn&#039;t get started until recently.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mostly that it was the last item to begin construction and there is a lot of rock work and show scenes to construct. It isn&#8217;t going to take much longer than Mermaid took to build, it just didn&#8217;t get started until recently.</p>
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		<title>By: TodAZ1</title>
		<link>http://micechat.com/6298-new-fantasyland-expansion-construction-update/comment-page-1/#comment-536</link>
		<dc:creator>TodAZ1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 19:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anyone know why it&#039;s taking until 2014 for the Snow White Mine Train roller coaster to open?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone know why it&#8217;s taking until 2014 for the Snow White Mine Train roller coaster to open?</p>
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		<title>By: Dusty Sage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dusty Sage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 18:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yuck. Wouldn&#039;t want that extra chlorinated diaper water on me. Thank you for the tip!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yuck. Wouldn&#8217;t want that extra chlorinated diaper water on me. Thank you for the tip!</p>
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		<title>By: LuckyJack65</title>
		<link>http://micechat.com/6298-new-fantasyland-expansion-construction-update/comment-page-1/#comment-523</link>
		<dc:creator>LuckyJack65</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 16:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[apparently there have been so many kids climbing all over the train, and parents encouraging it, that a CM has been stationed there to constantly monitor the area and keep kids off the train.   As everyone else has commented, why couldn&#039;t this situation have been dealt with during production??  Otherwise, it&#039;s a cute area!  The sound effects, the water effects, and the bright colors add so much to a child&#039;s entertainment!  I got a kick just standing there watching the kids play.
Did you realize that the water is recycled?  That means the chlorine content had to be raised SIGNIFICANTLY to deal with purification.  Think of all those dirty, sweaty kids, and toddlers with dirty diapers playing in that water.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>apparently there have been so many kids climbing all over the train, and parents encouraging it, that a CM has been stationed there to constantly monitor the area and keep kids off the train.   As everyone else has commented, why couldn&#8217;t this situation have been dealt with during production??  Otherwise, it&#8217;s a cute area!  The sound effects, the water effects, and the bright colors add so much to a child&#8217;s entertainment!  I got a kick just standing there watching the kids play.<br />
Did you realize that the water is recycled?  That means the chlorine content had to be raised SIGNIFICANTLY to deal with purification.  Think of all those dirty, sweaty kids, and toddlers with dirty diapers playing in that water.</p>
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		<title>By: mratigan</title>
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		<dc:creator>mratigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 14:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[^ yes it totaly ruins the look of casey jr]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^ yes it totaly ruins the look of casey jr</p>
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		<title>By: Dusty Sage</title>
		<link>http://micechat.com/6298-new-fantasyland-expansion-construction-update/comment-page-1/#comment-510</link>
		<dc:creator>Dusty Sage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 14:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I totally agree with you that the fence sort of ruins the look of the new Casey Jr train. They&#039;ve built enough kids play areas over the years to know that anything kids can climb on, they will climb on, especially in a PLAY area. What were they thinking when they designed this?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with you that the fence sort of ruins the look of the new Casey Jr train. They&#8217;ve built enough kids play areas over the years to know that anything kids can climb on, they will climb on, especially in a PLAY area. What were they thinking when they designed this?</p>
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		<title>By: SLUSHIE</title>
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		<dc:creator>SLUSHIE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 09:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the fence around the train looks dumb.  I get that there is the possibility of a kid slipping and falling since it&#039;s all wet, but injuries are bound to happen in any playground and that thing is just begging to be climbed on.

I think they should just put some anti-slip material and call it a day.  I don&#039;t see how some kid slipping on that is gonna kill them or break their face and getting hurt is part of being a kid.  

Tons of kids trying to get on it at once could be a problem but from my experience water play areas like this at theme parks (not water parks) aren&#039;t ever really that crowded because what parent wants to drag around a wet kid all day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the fence around the train looks dumb.  I get that there is the possibility of a kid slipping and falling since it&#8217;s all wet, but injuries are bound to happen in any playground and that thing is just begging to be climbed on.</p>
<p>I think they should just put some anti-slip material and call it a day.  I don&#8217;t see how some kid slipping on that is gonna kill them or break their face and getting hurt is part of being a kid.  </p>
<p>Tons of kids trying to get on it at once could be a problem but from my experience water play areas like this at theme parks (not water parks) aren&#8217;t ever really that crowded because what parent wants to drag around a wet kid all day.</p>
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