Knotts Berry Farm Calico Mine Ride and Camp Snoopy Hardhat Tour

Written by Norman Gidney. Posted in Berry Bloom, In the Parks, Knott's Berry Farm

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Published on April 18, 2014 at 3:00 am with 39 Comments

We took a sneak peek at Knott’s Berry Farm’s Calico Mine Ride and Camp Snoop yesterday. What we found was a very good sign for things to come this summer.

Last year, instead of adding another mega-coaster, Knotts decided to pour money into their classic log ride, bringing it back up to its original glory and adding new effects, story and show. Additionally they built three family attractions where one low-capacity thrill ride once stood.  It was a bit of a gamble as they were breaking from their previous pattern and trying to court the entire family again.

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The gamble paid off and Knott’s saw a sizable attendance boost because of it. “It was pretty overwhelming,” explains the Park General Manager, Raffi Kaprelyan.  ”in the sense that people appreciate us going after the heritage, and assuring that we are maintaining it. The other aspect is that there was a gap in the offerings to families.  Especially between the 9, 10, 11 year olds.  We had something for the very young and for the thrill seekers, but nothing for that group.”

Raffi continued, “The other thing, with the Boardwalk area, is that it used to be something that only the thrill seekers rode if they wanted to get wet (Perilous Plunge).  Now, we have three rides that everyone can ride and enjoy back there.  They can ride it together.”  It’s true too as the Boardwalk area is now bustling with kinetic energy and people running around, enjoying the rides. “It used to be a place where people just walked right by it.  Now people are there, sitting around, enjoying it.  When the lights come on at night, people just enjoy the place-making we did there.  There’s a great energy to it.”, boasts Kaprelyan.  He’s right too.  The once dead section of the park is now always filled with folks darting around, having a good time.

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Two new figures from Garner Holt Productions greeted guests as they took their places for the presentation.

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Jeff Gahagan, Lara Hanneman, and Jeff Shaddic listen as Eric Lynxwiler address the crowd.

 

CALICO MINE RIDE

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With the success of the Log Ride refurbishment and the Boardwalk under their belt, it was a no-brainer to continue forward.  Raffi first developed a “master plan” as he called it, when he was assigned to be the General Manager of the park.  But it wasn’t until they were well into the work on the Log Ride that he got the go ahead to renovate the Calico Mine Train too.

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“When we were working with Garner Holt Productions on the Log ride, ” says Director of Entertainment Tech & Production, Lara Hanneman, “we were also discussing the Mine Ride, and it was like, okay. . . this is another huge project but we need to do it.  We have the Mine Ride and it’s so dear to our hearts.  It was so important to us, yet we didn’t show that.”

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Lara also explained that while her team is truly one of the best teams in the business, there was no way they could do it without the help of Garner Holt Productions. The geniuses at Garner Holt did brilliant work when they developed new show scene ideas and then constructed them for the log ride.  GHP added a total of 58 animated figures to the Timber Mountain Log Ride, along with a brand new storyline, and new effects.  It was a logical next step to have them give the same treatment to the Mine Train.  For this redo they got far more ambitious.

This wasn’t the first time Garner Holt Productions was asked to work on this classic ride.  In the early 90′s they added 5 characters to the attraction.  For this refurbishment, GHP is planning on installing just over 120 figures into the Mine Ride for the redo, with most of them will being animated too.  ”We’re excited to now be doing the animation for the entire attraction.” Founder, Garner Holt added, “It’s gonna be pretty cool!.”  He continued, ”The important thing is that we wanted to maintain the continuity of the attraction.  Not just inside of it though, but to be harmonious with all of the characters in Calico and in the Log ride.  We wanted it all to look like it was part of the same town, part of the same family, the same community and town. Director of Creative Design for Garner Holt Productions, Bill Buttler also spoke regarding some of the figures. “Another thing that we will be adding to the attraction is wildlife.  We’ll have bats, some donkey’s, fish, and other things that will be swimming, crawling, and walking around.”

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Manager of Park Decor and Entertainment, Jeff Shaddic, spoke about the hard work that is going into  everything, even the props, for the new attraction.  ”We are rebuilding everything,” said Shaddic. “All of the dynamite crates are all being completely rebuilt out of cedar, and they’re tongue-in-groove.  Just like they were opening day.  The actual sticks of dynamite are going to look real.  Not like the cartoony, Wille Coyote style look, but authentic.  It has to be educational as well as entertaining, just like Bud Hurlbut had it when it opened.

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One of our favorite parts of the Calico Mine Train is the “heaven room”.  Just after the long, almost uncomfortable lift hill deep inside the mountain (the steepest enclosed lift hill at the time it was built) riders reach a glorious tableau.  The train edges through a vast, ethereal room of stalactites and stalagmites.  Strange music, written especially for this attraction, was meant to evoke the sound of wind whipping though the labyrinthian caverns.  As the years rolled on, the trademark music for this room became more and more faint. Fortunately Knott’s saw fit to maintain and fully restore this element to the ride.  The music has been completely re-recorded and will mark the first time that riders will have a chance to hear the entire piece in ages as the source recording had become spotty in parts.

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The Heaven Room in its current state with work lights on. In blacklight, this will look stunning.

We were invited in to the Calico Mine Ride to take a walking tour inside the attraction.  Approaching the facade we see teams of workers coursing over nearly every inch of the ride.

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Walking up the innovative hidden queue, the first thing we see is that the waterfall areas, once in terrible disrepair, have been completely resealed and repainted!  It looks so new and beautiful!

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The path leading to the load platform has been refinished.

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The redone waterfall pool.

Getting to the load platform we were treated to an up close look at one of the fully refurbished trains and one of the carts.  simply stunning.

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The old control booth will now be a peek-in featuring a bit of the storyline.

The biggest treat was still in store for us as we made our way on foot into the first cave along the tracks.  Rounding the corner we were met by a technician.  ”It should be ready in about 3 minutes.” What could it be? Let’s find out.

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The Boiling pot room/steam room.  We entered and saw a sample of the brilliant, new, colorful lighting design by Knott’s very own lighting designer, James Sidler.

But the real treat was steam.  Real steam has been added back to the room!  You might laugh at this, but this effect has been missing for the past 20 years.  We were there to see it for the first time since it had been removed two decades ago.

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Once the steam hit the lighting design, well, it was amazing.

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We only got a small glimpse of the Glory Hole scene.

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That is only a small preview of the beautiful work and detail going into this historic multi-story attraction.  We think it’s in very good hands and will certainly be a must-see attraction this summer for all ages!

CAMP SNOOPY

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When Camp Snoopy was constructed 30 years ago it marked a major turning point for the berry farm.  The different “lands” up to that point were all centered around California history.  Knott’s marketing team visited Charles Shultz to pitch the idea of a themed land with walk around characters based on the Peanuts characters.  While semi-interested in the idea, Schultz was a little distracted as he had to go watch his daughter rehearse for an upcoming ice-skating performance.  The Knott’s team let Schultz know that they regularly put ice shows on in their very own John Wayne Theatre.  Schultz perked up.  He was reported to have asked, “If I allow you to use the characters will you use my daughter in your ice shows?”  She became a crowd favorite performing as Snoopy on ice, and the deal for Camp Snoopy was set.

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The idea for Camp Snoopy was that of the HIgh Sierras, keeping in-line with Knott’s California history theme.  Taking over what used to be a tree-filled parking lot, the designers carefully layer out the new land with the mature, lush trees in mind so as to preserve them.  A new roller coaster, the Timberline Twister, the children’s ride, Huff and Puff, and the interactive Snoopy’s Clubhouse.  This was the first land in any theme park that was specifically designed and themed for kids, and it proved to be a major hit.

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Over the years, the area remained a children’s playground but much of the High Sierra theme was slowly lost.  ”Initially we were just going to add three rides.” said Vice President of Maintenance and Operations, Jeff Gahagan.  He continued, “But that’s what we had been doing, what we had always done.  We looked at GR8SK8, which is a giant skateboard.  What is a giant skateboard doing in the High Sierras?  We went over to Lucy’s Tugboat.  Again, what is a Tugboat doing in the High Sierras?  It didn’t make sense.  So we thought, ‘okay, if we are going to put these three new rides in, we have to take the land back to what it was.’

The Knotts folks took a long hard look at the entire area. Gahagan continued, “You look at the Sierra Sidewinder.  The fence work for that looks like it could be in Ghost Town. We knew we had to redo that.  Everything had to have the HIgh Sierra look and feel.  Lara Hanneman, added “What’s important to me is details and color. We wanted to make it feel like you were in the Sierras but make it feel modern as well.  We looked at the color pallet and wanted to give the queues, the lines a very forested tone, to let the rides stand out more.”

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Here we see samples of the new landscaping taking shape in the planters.

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If they could only build a mountain for Sierra Sidewinder.

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They also turned their attention to the paving in Camp Snoopy.  It used to simply be painted concrete.  Over the years the paths had become bumpy, uneven, and just plain ugly.  Not anymore.  Knotts has gone through and resurface every square inch of walkway.  Instead of the green slurry treatment, we now have concrete that has been stained and treated to look like a dirt road, complete with pebbles embedded into the paths.  When crossing over a bridge, they have gone so far as to make the concrete looks like actual planks of wood.

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You can see the old pavement at the top and the new at the bottom. The last bit of surfacing work still needs to happen near the far end of Camp Snoopy. They hope to get to this when Spring Break is over.

As you can see here, the GR8SK8 attraction is no more.  It is gone.  They are now planning to give Snoopy and his friends a permanent home. Beagle Scout Headquarters will serve as a character meet and greet with park visitors. The headquarters will feel like a mountain lodge and filled with classic comic strip moments.

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The younger children will also have something to do in the Peanuts Play Lot.  Right next to the Timberline Twister will be a small area where the kids can play in a a safe zone.

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Lucy’s Tugboat is changing to Rapids River Run to match the theme of the land.

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They took the Timberline Twister and gave it a more Pinewood Derby feel.

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The classic Huff and Puff remains.

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Pig Pen’s Mud Buggies is a flat ride that bounces as it goes along.

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Tykes can climb aboard their very own all-terrain vehicle for an adventurous ride around the High Sierras. Six four-seater ATV’s will spin, bounce, and bump, while Pig Pen looks on from his center perch.

  • Speed: 6 rpm clockwise
  • Number of Cars: 6
  • Capacity of each Car: 4 per vehicle
  • Total Passengers: 24

 

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The Pig Pen’s Mudbuggies site right now.

 

Charlie Brown’s Kite Flyer

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“Fly a Kite” with Charlie Brown as Campers soar above the land’s winding paths and babbling streams – but watch out for the kite-eating tree! As the tree rises, good ol’ Charlie Brown is revealed upside down and all tied up in kite string!

  • Riders Obtain a Height of: 11 Feet
  • Speed: 9.5 rpm clockwise
  • Number of Swings: 16
  • Capacity: 2 seats per swing
  • Total Passengers: 32

 

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Linus Launcher is based on the idea that Snoopy has stolen Linus’ blanket and is flinging it around.

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Lay on Linus’ blanket and enter a classic Peanut’s moment as Snoopy grabs the blanket and launches guests up to 10 feet in the air. Enjoy a Woodstock’s-eye view of Huff ‘n Puff, The Grizzly Creek Lodge, and all of Camp Snoopy below!

  • Riders Obtain a Height of: 12 feet
  • Speed: 11 RPM clockwise
  • Number of Blankets: 8
  • Capacity: 2 per blanket
  • Total Passengers: 16

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The wonderful Grand Sierra Railway will see a wonderful new enhancement too.  Hanneman tapped Garner Holt Productions to infuse the attraction with more Peanuts charm.  Bill Butler explained, “This will be a sort of train ride to camp.  Along the way you will see vignettes and sight gags.”  ”The narrator will be none other than Linus Van Pelt” Hanneman added.  We were then treated to an audio snippet from the upcoming makeover and shown two of the figures that would be featured along the way.

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So it seems that, after last years success with the Log RIde and Boardwalk family style attractions, Knott’s and Cedar Fair feel supremely confident in doubling down on the family strategy.    Noting that General Manager Raffi Kaprelyan said he had recently received the “okay” for his plans for the next three years, we prodded by asking, “So you got the ‘okay’ for, I don’t know, another dark ride?”  He smirked and answered, “Anything is possible.” “Ahh,” we asked, “so what’s NOT possible?  Another Coaster?”  ”I will never say that.”, Kaprelyan said.

We think that after such firm success and strong attendance numbers, wonderful things are on the horizon for Knott’s.  If only we could get Raffi to talk!

All of these additions and renovations to Knott’s Berry Farm are planned to be open by the summer season.  While the Knott’s team is hoping for a mid-June time frame, they are making no promises just yet and nor should they.  We would much rather have it all done right, than done quick.  Will you make a point of visiting Knott’s this summer to see the wonderful refurbishments to classic attractions and lands?  Season Passes are still cheaper than a one-day one-park ticket at the Disneyland Resort, we think it’s money well spent.  See you on the Farm folks!

 

About Norman Gidney

Norman Gidney, also known as Fishbulb, produces and edits many of the articles on MiceChat. Tune in every Tuesday for the Orlando Parkhopper and every Friday for In The Parks. But you'll also find his photos in the Weekly Round Up, SAMLAND, and numerous other columns on the site.

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  • DocDar

    So happy alot of work is being put back into the park instead of just another roller coaster. My wish list next is to utilize the old Dino building and put in a great dark ride for the park. Also send some money to Mystery Lodge. Clean up the animation, upgrade to HD

  • eicarr

    Knotts is going to be my most anticipated day on my next Disneyland vacation. This Garner Holt team needs to work on Grizzly River Rapids at DCA.

  • thebear

    That was a great update! Next on my wishlist would be to have them remove the boomerang roller coaster and replace it with something that is more family oriented and doesn’t create such unattractive sight lines.

  • MrTour

    Finally! Now let Garner Holt re-do Knott’s Bear-y Tales!

    • dizneedoll

      My thoughts exactly! Knotts Beary Tales was my favorite ride as a child and I would love to see it come back! If they really want to add family friendly rides, this is the type of thing they need to do. The Camp Snoopy refurb is great and I’m sure it will look beautiful but really all I’m seeing is 3 new spinning type rides. A new dark ride would really win me over.

    • http://micechat.com Dusty Sage

      I hope Knott’s is reading this. My NUMBER ONE request for the park would be for a Garner Holt quality dark ride in the old show Berry Tales building. If not a complete return to the Berry Tales, then at least a nod to them. What I DO NOT want to see is a cheap shooter style dark ride. This is Knott’s chance to get themselves fully back in the game. Take out a big corporate loan and put in a high quality dark ride with great animation, a solid ride system, AND catchy original music! And while they are at it, the old Roaring 20′s either needs to be brought back to life or completely rethemed to something else. That back section of the park is a no-mans land thematically and needs a lot of help.

      • jcruise86

        Oops, I posted my request for an EXPENSIVE shooter-style dark ride two minutes after yours. A possibe Roarin’ 20s-themed attraction could be a beautiful, trippy ride-through fun house that lit up like Coney Island’s Luna Park (or Tokyo’s Toy Story Midway Mania) at night.

        Every once in a while someone claims to appreciate this list of Knott’s Tips, so here they are again vial this link:
        http://micechat.com/forums/knotts-berry-farm-cedar-fair-parks/191682-updated-knotts-tips-please-add-more.html

      • dlpostcardguy

        Totally agree with this Dusty! Knott’s moniker emphasizes ‘theme’ and they need to live up to that with their rides. What they have been doing lately is fantastic but they really need a great dark ride with memorable music like Berry Tales was. Maybe it’s time for MiceChat to deliver a survey or petition to them. ;-) Keep up the good work Knott’s and let’s get going on that new family dark ride!!

  • Ravjay12

    Great article and update on all the wonderful things knot’s Berry Farm is doing! One of the reasons we haven’t visited Knott’s in years was because of the direction it was going once Cedar Fair acquired them. It’s so good to see Knott’s preserving their past and looking at ways to do things better. Can’t wait to see what they have in store for the future! Park looks absolutely beautiful. I’m so happy their gamble has paid off. Maybe a laser shooter 3d ride to replace dinosaurs? That would be cool!

  • Werner Weiss

    Bravo to Knott’s for the wonderful improvements being made to the park.

    Bravo to Norm Gidney for the excellent article showing and describing these brilliant changes.

    Until last year, I thought the best period for Knott’s was in the distant past. Now I think Knott’s will achieve new heights in the next few years as General Manager Raffi Kaprelyan remakes sections of the historic park to be better than ever.

    • jcruise86

      Yes, thank you for that excellent report, Norm!

      I think and hope that many Southern Californians who don’t want to buy expensive Disneyland APs every year, will be pleasantly surprised by how much they enjoy their Knott’s “season passes,” which can actually last longer than 4 seasons if purchased in December. I love Knott’s! Raffi Kaprelyan and Matt Ouimet should feel great about keeping this park so beautiful.

      I’d like a pair of Ghost Town haunted house rides. In one you’re a McCoy shooting at ghost Hatfields and in the other you’re a Hatfield shooting at ghost McCoys. And I’d like these plussed with live actors for the Scary Farm.

  • rstar

    I know that they didn’t include the Log Ride in last years Haunt, and I’m wondering, now that these two will be redone by GHP will they ever have a Haunt overlay again? Could GHP be in charge of designing it? Garner did do Halloween things when he was younger (as did I) and I think this would be wonderfull!

    • http://micechat.com Dusty Sage

      For now, I think they are afraid to spoil the fruits of their labor. They’ve put so many millions into the redo of the Log Ride and Mine Train that I don’t think it’s likely we’ll see Haunt in these locations this year or any time soon. However, I’m with you. I’d LOVE to see Garner produce a Halloween overlay. Perhaps one that doesn’t require live actors (to better prevent damage to the sets). It doesn’t need to be super scary. In fact, it could be something that’s family appropriate that runs to day guests and remains open during Haunt. More along the lines of what Disney is doing with Haunted Mansion, Space Mountain, Jungle Cruise and Small World during various holidays.

  • soundhound

    >>As the years rolled on, the trademark music for this room became more and more faint. Fortunately Knott’s saw fit to maintain and fully restore this element to the ride. The music has been completely re-recorded and will mark the first time that riders will have a chance to hear the entire piece in ages as the source recording had become spotty in parts.<<

    Oh my…

    I don't know what it meant by "more faint", but as the person who made the recording of the mine ride music which has been heard in the cavern since 1979, I have to admit I'm massively perplexed.

    I have the master tape of this music, and its in perfect condition, and in stereo. I just played it a couple few weeks ago. I also have a first generation copy of the ORIGINAL organ music which was recorded for the mine ride in 1960 for Bud Hurlbut, and was in use from that time till it was replaced by the version I recorded in 1979. That tape too is in perfect condition and perfectly playable with no "faintness" or "spottiness".

    I was assured that this information was passed to the Knott's sound department. If they wanted a digital file of these masters, all they had to do was ask…..

    Why they think its necessary to "re-record" it is beyond me. At the very least, I could make a very convincing argument that Knott's should do what Disneyland did with the Enchanted Tiki Room restoration; they used the ORIGINAL recording of the music that Walt Disney had originally heard.

    Using the original 1960 organ music which Bud Hurlbut heard seems like a no-brainer to me (or heck, even the re-recording I did – Bud Hurlbut heard and approved of that version too), and if Knott's is so concerned with "getting it right" I would think that they would want to get back to the actual intent that Bud Hurlbut had in creating the ride in the first place.

    Doesn't that make sense? Does to me.

    • Norman Gidney

      I did some digging and was able to confirm a few things. The assertion that the recording was spotty or faint, may have been the verbal interpretation of the presenter at the press event. However, it may have been a technical decision to go with a new recording.

      You see, Knott’s is literally going in and upgrading all of the sound and lighting for the attraction. It will be 100% state of the art, and crystal clear. They had the decision to either go with a great recording of the original, or produce a brand new recording using the original sheet music.

      My guess as to WHY they did this is that, had they chosen to go with the original, they would be locked in to the exact arrangements, sound levels, and mixes of the original source material. In going back to the original sheet music, but rerecording it, they are honoring the original piece, while being able to upgrade it to take advantage of the brand new sound system that they are installing.

      To be honest I am just glad that they didn’t decide to get rid of the music as it is, without a doubt, as iconic a piece as Grim Grinning Ghosts or it’s a small world at Disneyland. You hear the music and you are instantly transported. As long as the recording maintains that magic and mystery, I am good.

      • soundhound

        Uh, how can anybody make a decision on the sound quality of the original master tapes if nobody bothers to actually listen to them???

        Sounds to me that Knott’s simply has it in their head that they want to re-record the music whether it needs it or not, original intent or not.

        I guess I’m the only person on the planet who will ever know what the originals actually sound like. Oh well….

      • http://micechat.com Dusty Sage

        Soundhoud, I don’t think Knott’s had the master recording. Unless the recording they had was somehow inadequate, they never would have spent the money to recreate the original unless they had to.

        Please feel free to contact me and I’d be happy to forward anything you have along to Knott’s.

        But above and beyond the music (which I’m sure will be WONDERFUL), what Knott’s is doing is absolutely astounding. They aren’t just restoring this attraction, they are enhancing and improving it to meet the needs to today’s audiences. That’s a commitment. Other parks would have long since torn this ride down and replaced it with a rollercoaster or drop ride. Knott’s should be commended and I’m REALLY looking forward to seeing the ride when it reopens.

      • soundhound

        Eric Lynxwiler already contacted the Knott’s sound department about this issue on my behalf; no response from them, so apparently their mind is made up on their way forward.

      • SpectroMan

        How awesome that you have that recording. My first thought is that indeed, Knott’s no longer has the source material and just gave up. Dusty, maybe you would know – are some of the original employees still in the sound department that may have been around pre-Cedar Fair? If not, that may explain the ambivalence towards this amazingly generous offer.

  • Edward Allen

    Wow. Those figures are very nice. No wonder Knotts and Disney outsource work to GHP. Great, great job and a challenging one as well since some of the animatronics will have to perform some fairly sophisticated movements with picks, saws, shovels, etc. Hey, it’s tough to work in a mine!

    Truth be told, the original, cruder Calico Mine figures were actually pretty creepy. Like the ghosts of miners condemned to toil in that mountain for eternity………

    • http://micechat.com Dusty Sage

      The faces and hands look so real!!!

  • manifest

    Can I sign this petition for Knotts to start working on redoing Knotts Berry Tales immediately?? Rolls Crump is still alive you know. Perfect time to get this started.

    Grand Sierra Railroad is actually going to be an attraction again?? What a pleasant surprise!

    Look at how amazing the Mine Ride is going to be. 120 characters. That’s insane. That’s about 40 short of Pirates.

    People need to stop sleeping on Knotts. This park is better than ever.

  • ralzap

    Great Job Knott’s. Your getting closer, and I guess we all have our ideas. Mine is moving the pony express. Boot hill used to be the best place in the park at night. Next add back the gold panning in front of the park. It was unusual to be able to look into the park, and yet not actually bought a ticket. It brought life to the market area and drew you in. You wanted to be part of the fun you were seeing.

  • taunton

    Norm, fantastic photos and info! My husband and I were on the last mine ride before they closed it down and would love to be in the first ride when they open it back up.

    Camp Snoopy updates look great too even though my kids are too old for most of it.

    And I agree, Knott’s needs a themed dark ride that the family can all go on together — not a roller coaster and not a carnival ride.

  • fnord

    Is sad eyed joe in jail still an attraction?

    • Wendygirl

      Yes :)

    • DisneyIPresume

      Sad Eye Joe – the number one reason that Turtle Talk never impressed me.

  • Wendygirl

    I finally was able to ride Timber Mountain last Saturday and it was wonderful! I can hardly wait to be there for the grand re-opening of the Mine Train. This report has certainly gotten me even more excited than I already was!

    Had such a good time at Knotts Berry Bloom I’m planning to repeat the experience again this Saturday. My daughter was so excited about the photos I took last Saturday and my description that now she and her boyfriend plan to go one day next week. Of course I’m going too — because I have the parking on my Season Pass :)

    Wonderful things are happening at Knotts and they have great entertainment too – cough cough – Krazy Kirk and the Hillbillies aka Billy Hill and the Hillbillies :) :)

  • scarymouse

    I can’t wait to ride the new mine ride. I remember the old steam version and always wished they fixed it. I am very excited to hear of all the work. I especially interested in a possible dark ride, there are many options the Haunt is always a draw and a moneymaker how about a dark ride in that art direction? I really have been a fan of the farm for years and have always enjoyed a visit and this is all great news as far as I’m concerned.Now that the younger kids area is re-furbed and awesome dark ride would be great.