Full Seven Dwarfs Mine Train Ride Video

Written by Dusty Sage. Posted in Disney News, Disney Parks, Features, Magic Kingdom, Walt Disney World

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Published on May 01, 2014 at 12:18 pm with 129 Comments

Previews have begun of the new Seven Dwarfs Mine Coaster at Walt Disney World. Situated in the Magic Kingdom this final piece to the New Fantasyland was 4 years in the making, finishing off a land that had its grand opening a year ago, complete with a flying fire breathing dragon.

Special thanks to our friends at Orlando Attracitions Magazine for sharing this wonderful point of view video of the highly anticipated attraction. Click play below and watch the ride from the front row and then the back row.

Having watched the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train ride video, do you think this attraction is the silver bullet that New Fantasyland needs? Will it help Disney World fend off the Harry Potter expansion at Universal? Let us know your thoughts below.

About Dusty Sage

Dusty is the founder and CEO of MiceChat.com. When he's not visiting theme parks and writing, editing or speaking about Disney and theme parks worldwide, Dusty stays busy as the Executive Director of both the Walt Disney Birthplace AND the Dick Van Dyke Foundation. He also run's O-Zell Soda (the company originally operated by Walt Disney's father and at which Walt once worked). If you've got news or photos to share with the MiceChat community, or would like to book Dusty for an upcoming event, please contact [email protected]

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  • torgo

    Adorable! I don’t think it can compete with all the Potter additions, but it is very cute for what it is.

  • FlynnLives

    This looks like a fun ride for the kids but I don’t see it bringing in thousands of people just to see that one ride like Harry Potter does.

    Disney really needs to get the Star Wars themed lands going.

    • mondo

      Do the Star Wars Land at DHS first

  • disneydempster

    Great video – thanks for sharing it. I don’t understand the comparison to Harry Potter they are in different universes, like which is a better a pineapple or lasagna. I think it is a huge enhancement for WDW FLE and is targeted to the WDW and Fantasyland demographic which is families with children. My kids are grown but I definitely will ride this coaster. Looks fun and a wonderful mix of minor thrills and very beautiful details and rich effects.

    • http://micechat.com Dusty Sage

      It certainly isn’t fair. But that’s what’s going to happen all summer long. Disney is opening Dwarfs and Uni is opening a Potter expansion. Both are aimed at more or less the same demographic (tween and early teen boys). Families will be asking the question “Which do you want to go see”.

      Ultimately, this is a VERY pretty and solid attraction. But it will be compared to what Uni is doing just down the road. Therefore, it’s a valid comparison.

      • randlev

        Yeah, I don’t think the subheading of this post and that comparison is fair at all. Ideally yes they’d be on the same level, but I don’t think Disney would really compare them either. I look forward to Avatar Land and the eventual Star Wars and (probably west-coast) Marvel projects for an actual Harry Potter “response” or in MiceChat’s drama-inspiring description “killer.” Of course the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train is not a Harry Potter killer.

      • BradyNBradleysMom

        @Dusty Sage –

        I don’t think it’s fair to say they are aimed at the same demographic at all. I like the comment about these being “pineapple and lasagna” comparisons. I’m going to use that metaphor from now on!

        Potter = aimed at kids in their teens all the way up to adult Potter fans. Diagon Alley is filled with clever in-jokes, detailed references to the books, and is kind of spooky and dark compared to anything Disney does. It’s a more mature world of attractions and environment. It really was built to be a destination unto itself, like people would make a special trip to Orlando JUST TO COME SEE Diagon Alley and experience it. Both Potter additions combined really do create a mini-third-gate for Universal in the sense that the Potter stuff truly is a park-within-a-park and a “Potter World” at Universal, more than just an island at IOA or a land at USF. I see Diagon Alley as Phase 2 of a possible three or four phase project that creates this de facto “Potter World” at Universal that is a draw in itself.

        Mine Train = aimed at young kids (over 38 inches) and families. This is not aimed for teens at all. It’s not even aimed at tweens, really. I think this is aimed at five year old kids of both genders and up to maybe 12 year olds. And it’s aimed at families to experience together with young children. I see this ride being a big hit with grandparents on vacation with grandkids. The grandparents know and love Snow White and these classic characters…but grandparents might not want to ride coasters like Big Thunder or Space Mountain. This mine train is the exact kind of thing that grandparents can feel “cool” for riding with the kids and the kids will be thrilled they got grandma and grandpa on a “coaster”. Some people in the fan community might laugh at that, but it’s a big deal in our family. My mom and dad can ride this ride, but they do not do coasters. It’s mild enough for them though, and something that interests them. I can see us going on this as a family and my sons talking about it forever.

        The mine train is not meant to draw people across the country just to ride the mine train. This is just something new that’s added to New Fantasyland, to be enjoyed along with all the other things added. If you notice, ALL of the New Fantasyland additions are ALL things that grandparents can enjoy too. Fantasyland is really the area that’s most for all ages, for families to do together. Four and five year olds up to 80s year olds (and above) can do all of the new things in Fantasyland. That can’t be said about Potter. Disney was not trying to add thrill rides here.

        The Magic Kingdom is not a thrill rides park. I think maybe one day in the future that Disney will make DHS into a thrill rides park, maybe with Star Wars stuff deep into the future…2020s or so. But Disney is really targeting families (pineapples!) while Universal is serving up attractions for the teens and older (lasagna!).

    • CaptainAction

      WDW execs slow walked the Dwarf Train to compete with the whole Potter land experience.
      I’ve been told by soo many folks here at Micechat that the idea to slow walk the Train was genious marketing by WDW. I really disagree.
      WDW set up the comparison.

      • BradyNBradleysMom

        I don’t think the execs set up a comparison at all…I think they wanted something new to open for Summer 2014 at Magic Kingdom to take advantage of the people coming to town for the Potter opening. This way, Disney can get a day out of those people at least in a Disney park even though they flew across country just to see Potter.

        It was a way of having them say “Disney has some new things to check out. It’s worth going there for a day even though we came for Potter”. Disney thus benefitting by spending just a little bit of money (in comparison) to the large amount of money that Universal spent for a new attraction in 2014.

        If Disney can get the Potter guests to take on just one Disney day that they weren’t planning on tacking on before Mine Train, it’s worth it.

      • AaroniusPolonius

        “I don’t think the execs set up a comparison at all…I think they wanted something new to open for Summer 2014 at Magic Kingdom to take advantage of the people coming to town for the Potter opening.”

        That opening delay, in and of itself, sets up the comparison.

        “This way, Disney can get a day out of those people at least in a Disney park even though they flew across country just to see Potter.”

        They’re already getting a day out of those people, for the most part. The paradigm hasn’t changed: people get off plane and out of car and spend, at least one day, going to Disney, which means “going to the park with the castle in it.” To put this another way, there’s a whole slew of people who fly across the country to see Potter, and while they’re there and have already made that expensive investment in their vacation, are going to see the iconic Magic Kingdom, Seven Dwarfs or not.

        “It was a way of having them say “Disney has some new things to check out. It’s worth going there for a day even though we came for Potter”. Disney thus benefitting by spending just a little bit of money (in comparison) to the large amount of money that Universal spent for a new attraction in 2014.”

        This statement, in and of itself, is the ENTIRE THESIS of the current crop of Disney critics. The idea that Disney isn’t investing ENOUGH in new attractions and experiences, and when they do, it’s of a lesser investment than their competition up the street. It’s this cynical view of their theme park attendees as an audience swayed by something less-than-possible for premium-prices that’s driving the current critique. And while folks l certainly don’t present their critiques without derision, sarcasm and repetition, they’re not wrong in noting that Disney-as-company has made targeted investments versus premium investments.

        “If Disney can get the Potter guests to take on just one Disney day that they weren’t planning on tacking on before Mine Train, it’s worth it.”

        Again, and I’m a Disney Fan from both a business and theme park perspective, this is the exact critique from those who think that Disney should be doing more. To put this another way, should the industry leader (by a long shot, land slide both locally and globally,) be playing such a strategy?

        I’ll say this: I don’t give the critiques of New Fantasyland much validity when they tread upon CONTENT and THEME: from the back of the castle to the station for the train around the park, Disney did a bang up job of creating a highly detailed, layered and thematic land at the Magic Kingdom. It’s exactly what we, as the fan community, have been clamoring for since the early 1990s, and the company delivered, in droves.

        I DO give the critiques involving the Disney corporate cynicism and slow or measured investment (or even divestment) MUCH validity, because while Universal (both locally and soon, globally) is stepping up to the plate with the full intent to play, and working on both the superior attractions/theming/investment as well as the resort-captive-audience experience fronts, Disney is taking a more cynical, brand-power, historical-leverage approach. There is absolute validity to the critique that Disney isn’t doing enough for the guests it has or those it wishes to retain or attract (just as there’s absolute validity to the business strategy behind it: if people keep coming and keep spending more money, why do more than we have to to retain them?) Again, while critical presentation on these boards is somewhat lacking in refinement and an understanding of debate, they do present a valid point regarding Disney corporate cynicism.

      • Cory Gross

        “Again, and I’m a Disney Fan from both a business and theme park perspective, this is the exact critique from those who think that Disney should be doing more. To put this another way, should the industry leader (by a long shot, land slide both locally and globally,) be playing such a strategy?”

        It seems to me that WDW’s real response to Harry Potter would be a bus to Universal. If the fight is really over room nights rather than a few bucks at Honeydukes, then “stay at WDW and enjoy our humungous resort with all these things to do with all our beloved characters, and we’ll even give you free transportation to Universal” would be the way to go. I dunno’…

    • AaroniusPolonius

      It’s absolutely a valid comparison, one that Disney itself has set up. There’s no way that this admittedly solid and well-themed attraction should have taken FOUR YEARS to build, except for publicity’s sake.

      I agree that the attraction versus Potter 2.0, viewed as side by side, shouldn’t be compared and that they are apples and oranges. HOWEVER, the timing of the attraction’s opening is clearly meant to great “new ride” news for the summer just as Universal is opening up PotterLand 2.0 up the street. Potter at Universal’s theme parks is the key to getting people to visit and to discover all the other awesome stuff to do there; that’s been proven via the original expansion and the lesser lifts from Universal’s other massive improvements. So, Disney clearly, obviously timed this to capture some marketing and PR mindshare.

      Alas, while I think that they’ll get that mindshare and publicity, they’ve also invited a direct comparo via this taking way, WAY too long to open.

      I’d have given Disney the benefit of the doubt regarding the new, projected audio-animatronics tech had they opened LAST summer, or maybe even a little leeway had there been two scenes (such as an expansion of the cottage/witch outdoor scene at the end.) But, c’mon. This took FOUR YEARS to build.

      • Kevbot217

        It took a year and a half to build. Announced in 2011, construction began in September 2012. It’s open in May. That’s a year and a half, not four years.

      • Kevbot217

        Retraction: construction broke ground in January 2012. So 2.25 years. Still not 4.

  • JiminyCricketFan

    I think that it is very cute. I found it interesting that an adult on the ride is yelling “Wow!” when the turns are going on. Is this a kid’s ride? I find the theme to be very child-centric but the track is more thrilling that some kids will be able to handle. I only see adults riding it so far. Have any kids, early elementary school age, ridden it so far? I would love to know their reaction.

    I don’t think that this will be thrilling enough to please teens. I think they will be much more impressed with the Potter world at Universal.

    • DuckyDelite

      I agree. It seems like a ride that can’t make up it’s mind. Is it too fast or too slow? I was really hoping for more show scenes and less coaster.

      However, I do think they have done a great job. The cottage at the end is a great touch and pure Disney. I’m trying to decide if the 6-year-old-me would have ridden it. I think the coaster aspect and people screaming on the ride would have frightened me away. I hope kids today are more courageous than I was :)

  • DisneyFan1

    Loved seeing that Snow White and the Evil Queen are in the ride! This ride is going to be a hit.

  • VWSpawn

    Love the mix of classic dark ride with a thrill in between. Not a Potter Killer but still I like this. the back car looks like a blast to ride!

  • bosscajun

    Cute and very detailed, will make a nice addition to Fantasyland and will take the load off of the other rides there. Will be great for the family and young children. Sorry but the NEW Harry Potter area over at Universal will blow them away with it’s detailing. I was there yesterday, and it is very detail and between it and Transformers there is no way it will compete. WDW will need to do the Star Wars and Cars Land to help them out.

  • http://micechat.com Dusty Sage

    Does it seem like the swinging cars may actually counteract some of the thrill of the ride? I’d like to see them lock a car from swinging and test it out. I bet it would be a bit more of a thrill.

    • CaptainAction

      Yeah, the swinging cars probably take some of the thrill down a little. If the cars didn’t swing it would be a little more thrilling.

    • BrianLo

      It sounds like it’s the opposite. In the same way that Mater’s is improved because you are whipped around corners. From what those who have ridden it say it’s surprisingly works, more so than videos demonstrate.

  • michael darling

    Outstanding! I hope they go back and retrofit ALL the dark rides with this ‘new’ technology. Watching Doc is like watching a real Dwarf come to life, unbelievable. Is it a ‘potter killer”? “silver bullet”? Does it really NEED to be? Apples and oranges. It’s so weird to hear so many comparisons nowadays. You didn’t hear this stuff 10 years ago. Go to whatever the heck park you want to. Go ride whatever rides you are attracted to, for crying out loud. That’s what it’s all about. That’s why there is a variety of theme parks.
    I know that this will definitely get a visit out of me and my fam, this summer while in FLA. We enjoy Disney magic, plain & simple.

  • Chernabog

    It definitely looks cute, though I though it was strange that in the first ride-through the dwarfs were eerily silent until “Heigh-ho” and then in the second ride-through the dwarfs sang “Dig dig dig” and then were eerily silent through the last part. Shouldn’t they sing both parts?

    The ride seems fun. and the animatronics look VERY well done.

    • michael darling

      Must be working out the kinks. They most likely sing “DIG DIG DIG” until you get to Doc, who starts off ‘Heigh HO”. It’s cool that you can hear the song while going up the first lift, coming out of the mine shaft. Only negative: wish it was twice as long. It’s beautiful.

  • DisneyDoll

    It certainly looks like a very fun ride & I am glad that you actually see Snow White & the Wicked Queen. I personally feel there could’ve been a little more dark ride to the attraction but what they do have is outstanding.

  • jcruise86

    I don’t remember the semi-fast little mine ride scene in “Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.”
    If you contrast this with EPCOT opening in 1982 it’s a little bit depressing.
    If only Central Florida were getting a mine or indoor train ride
    that was bigger than this
    that actually captured a scene in a movie.

    Just messing with you Disney World fans! :)
    It’s an impressive little C Ticket. Peter Pan and Disneyland’s Dumbo & Casey Jr. Circus Train rides are pretty great, so this spiffy, diminutive kiddie ride with its impressive effects is in good company.

    • BradyNBradleysMom

      You’re using the words “C ticket” and by implication “E ticket” incorrectly. That’s a common thing I see with people who never experienced the ticket books. “E ticket” does not mean it’s a thrill ride…but instead it’s an attraction that’s highly sought after and that everyone will want to do in the park.

      Yesterdayland has a great breakdown of what the “tickets’ were for, A through E. You would be surprised what an “E Ticket” really was. http://www.yesterland.com/abcde.html

      C Tickets were: Fantasyland Theater, Mad Tea Party, Autopias, Shooting Gallery, Peter Pan Flight, Dumbo, Mr. Toad’s, Snow White, Keel Boats, Mr. Lincoln.

      E tickets were: Mine Train Ride (at Disneyland, not the same thing was this new ride at WDW), Pack Mules, Jungle Cruise, Monorail, Matterhorn, It’s A Small World, Enchanted Tiki Room, the Subs, Pirates, Country Bear, Haunted Mansion.

      If the tickets were still being used, clearly the Seven Dwarves Mine Train would be an “E Ticket” today. You cannot make an argument that this ride is not as impressive as It’s A Small World or the Jungle Cruise, and both of those were E-tickets.

      • LoveStallion

        Nah. I think this is a D ticket.

      • billyjobobb

        we’ll see when this thing opens to 4 hour waits.

      • CaptainAction

        Yeah cause there’s nothing else guests haven’t been riding for 12 years.

  • BradyNBradleysMom

    Let’s give a fair appraisal of this, starting with the fact that Disney never trumpeted anything in the New Fantasyland as a “Potter Swatter”. That term (which has become kind of cliche and obnoxious, in my opinion) is something fans came up with. It was never Disney’s intent as a business to do something to trump or surpass Potter at Universal. Instead, Disney seems to be enjoying the boost in tourism that Potter brought to Florida…since before Potter it was a simple fact that Universal didn’ t have anything that made people come down to Orland in droves. Disney sees any new push to bring more people to O-town to be good for everyone (a wave that raises all ships in port).

    I think this ride is charming. I can see it being a new favorite for many families. I love this as a “first coaster” for my son and the mine is just gorgeous inside. It’s (in my opinion) a better ride than the old Scary Adventures of Snow White. I like the surprise appearances by Snow and the Witch at the end. Just enough to create an illusion that these characters are alive in the park, like the dwarfs.

    I don’t think you can compare New Fantasyland to the Potter projects because they are apples and oranges. Universal needed to raise its bar and up its game in a serious way, and Potter did that. Disney did not, from a business perspective, need to raise its bar and up its game. Fans hate this (and I am a fan who hates this fact every day) but it’s true. Universal needed (and still needs more) a huge infusion of spending and top notch, world class attractions like Potter. Disney didn’t need anything that drastic. But, New Fantasyland is just enough to tempt back people who were on the fence about making a trip back to WDW. Potter was needed by Universal to convince people to come to Universal for the first time. There’s a big difference there. Universal had more heavy lifting to do.

    A fully realized and expensive Star Wars Land is the real “Potter Swatter” (can we please retire this term?). Disney is holding Star Wars as the ace, the trump card. If Disney built a Star Wars Land on the level of Potter (or topping Potter), that would be enormous. It would dwarf Potter (and I happen to be a big Potter fan).

    Disney does not see a need to do this though. Star Wars is kind of Disney’s nest egg, rainy day, power play. It’s being held in reserve, which I think is stupid because everything has an expiration date. But they clearly feel they can wait until the 2020s to build a Star Wars Land.

    Part of me wants Disney to miss the boat and get burned by being so stupid with this. But I think they feel that if they built Star Wars then maybe Universal would top it and they would have no trump card left. I think they don’t want to ratchet up the back and forth with Universal too much because it would just lead to a big Cold War style spending race between the two. Disney doesn’t see itself as being in competition with Universal, but rather sees Universal as being an entity that benefits because Disney is in Orlando, and there is a symbiosis where people going to see Potter also will go to Disney.

    If that symbiosis ever changes, we’ll get Star Wars. I think my sons (both pre-teen now) will be in college or have kids of their own before there is a Star Wars Land. I guess I can look forward to maybe taking my grandchildren or great grandchildren to a Star Wars Land.

    • Cory Gross

      Disney doesn’t need a “Potter Swatter.” Disney IS a “Potter Swatter.”

      I hate the term too, by the way, because it misrepresents a situation that you very nicely clarified here. Disney hasn’t had to “up its game” because there ISN’T a game. Universal is an also-ran, and Harry Potter provided a reason for people to go to Universal AT ALL. If Universal keeps dumping more money in and becomes competitive, then yes, Disney may have to start competing with them. Until then, why would the #1 theme park in the world have to compete with the 10th?

      New Fantasyland has all the marks of Disney not really feeling the need to compete with Potterland. Rather than go toe-to-toe, they just did what they felt like doing to fulfill certain goals that they had for themselves.

      • CaptainAction

        Nah, this is pre 2009 thinking. The moves Universal is putting on WDW have just begun. You have to see what Universal is up to. Avatar is not going to move the needle.
        Between 2009-2013 Universal grew at 39%. This is only after firing one Potter Land off. This is before Transformers, Springfield, Despicable Me, Hogwarts Train, Diagon Alley, Gringott’s Escape, London, Cabana Bay, King Kong, Skull Island, new giant area where everything outside ET is being removed for a new kid area, Third Gate, 2 more hotels, Waterpark/themepark, all connected to Citywalk with monorails, etc.
        WDW is no longer a swatter. That began ending in 2004. Trends take a while. WDW’s has begun and so has Universal’s.
        If Universal grew by 39% before they opened 15% of what they have planned…

      • Cory Gross

        Yes, we know the script.

      • CaptainAction

        I know. I think it’s funny that folks who enable the current WDW execs don’t know how to respond to all the Universal plans.
        All this compared to an Avatar Soarin’ ride, boat, and mess hall.
        This WDW execs group could go down as the folks who let Universal attendance pass Epcot, Disney Studios, AND Animal Kingdom!
        I hope they do go down as the goofs who rested on OTHERS’ laurels and lost dominance to Universal (except for Magic Kingdom).
        I hope they also go down as the goofs who decided to STOP targeting their biggest fans and switch targeting to theme park novices. WDW always has targeted both but going as cheap as they have, they new they would have to ditch folks who notice nothing new was happening for 10 years.
        Then WDW may get execs who care about the parks, the guests, and money, but not just money.
        Then you’ll get cute coasters in 1 year, while E Tickets are opening at other parks, and more restaurants so folks don’t have to plan meals 180 days out.
        Then everyone can thank Universal!

      • Cory Gross

        “I think it’s funny that folks who enable the current WDW execs don’t know how to respond to all the Universal plans.”

        1) I am not an enabler. I am a consumer who wants to buy what Disney is selling, and doesn’t really care about what Universal is selling. That leads to my second point…

        2) I don’t have to “respond to all the Universal plans” because, outside of discussion with you guys who feel its REALLY IMPORTANT that we know you disapprove of WDW, I DON’T CARE what Universal’s plans are. As I’ve said before, we’re giving Universal a day out of our trip for exactly TWO reasons: Harry Potter and Jurassic Park. And I don’t have to respond, or care, because…

        3) It’s not a contest. You can like both.

  • Tom319

    I love how the ride ends on a sinister note with the hag outside!

    • LoveStallion

      That was the biggest surprise! Loved it. Great touch.

  • Ravjay12

    This is their summer draw? My 7 year old saw it and thought it was boring. My 5 year old saw it and said she’s not going on it. Just saved myself 500 bucks! I’m so happy I won’t have to spend my day at the Frozen meet and greet! They really should’ve copied that mine train ride from Disneyland China. Landscaping looks great, though!

    • BradyNBradleysMom

      There’s no such thing as “Disneyland China”. When did they build that? I don’t know of a park with that name.

      There’s Hong Kong Disneyland (which does not have a dwarfs’ mine train, unless you mean the Big Grizzly Mountain Runaway Mine Cars…which is basically a new version of Big Thunder).

      They are currently building Shanghai Disney Resort. Last I heard, that will be getting a clone of the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train ride.

      • LoveStallion

        I believe he’s referring to BGM in Hong Kong. Ravjay bringing the international politics into the mix. How dare you call Hong Kong “China.”

        BGM is fine, but I think it really lacks full theming. It just looks bare.

      • Ravjay12

        Yeah, sorry I met Hong kong Disneyland.

      • solarnole

        Disneyland China is the magical factory where happy slaves make Disney toys and get paid with magic beans.

    • CaptainAction

      My 11 year old said it looked really slow. He liked the mine but laughed how slowly the train left the cave. That video saved us $500. I wouldn’t have spent the $500 on one cute coaster anyway.
      More money for butterbeer.
      WDW copied The Mummy at Universal too. They took a 60 second ride and paused it at several points and slowed it down to stretch out another minute.

      • Cory Gross

        I love shorter lines! Thanks! :D

      • LoveStallion

        CaptainAction, complaining once more.