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If I Were King Of Disneyland

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by , 01-25-2012 at 08:56 PM


In Michael Broggie’s Walt’s Words of Wisdom, he noted that as a 12-year old boy he asked Walt Disney directly the question as to why he could accomplish so much. Walt replied by saying:

“Somehow I can’t believe there are many heights that can’t be scaled by anyone who knows the secret of making dreams come true. This special secret, it seems to me, can be summarized in four Cs. They are Curiosity, Confidence, Courage, and Constancy, and the greatest of these is Confidence. When you believe a thing, believe it all over, implicitly and unquestioningly.”

Think about that one a bit. Great stuff.

Curiosity. Often, when working on a project I am called upon to conduct interviews with the key stakeholder. The interviews are meant to be candid and confidential and are summarized in such a way as to help inform the project team and produce the best results. I like to call this the Curiosity phase.

One line of questioning that I like to use during the Curiosity phase is a simple challenge. For a brief moment, they will become the queen or king of the empire that we are planning for and they possess enormous powers and prestige to make things happen. What do you want to happen? It usually gets a chuckle but it also liberates the participant and can release a very constructive dialogue. Then they are back to normal. Poof!

Walt Disney was a guy who had the power and prestige to make things happen. As I noted in Walt and the Promise of Progress City:

“In 1960, Bradbury suggested to Walt that he should run for mayor of Los Angeles because he was the only man who knew how things work. Bradbury really believed that Walt understood the issues, especially when it came to public transit. Bradbury said, “I’m all for making Walt Disney our next mayor…the only man in the city who can get a working rapid transit system built without any more surveys, and turn it into a real attraction so that people will want to ride it.” Walt’s reply was, “Why should I run for mayor when I am already king?”

With this column, just for the fun of it I have decided to challenge myself and to ask the question, “If I were king of the North American Disney theme parks and I could do just about anything I wanted. I didn’t have to worry about politics or budgets. I just have to do the right thing as I see it. What would I do?”

This column is my response. I challenge to you with the same question. What would you do?

Let’s start with the Mothership – Disneyland.



As we enter Walt’s original creation, the only Disney park that he actually walked through, I think everybody would agree that there is a special charm that has never been duplicated. Main Street USA seems timeless. Although the buildings are painted different colors, the signs advertise different merchants, and what goes on inside of the buildings has changed considerably, the overall feel, the combination of good urban design patterns, and the rhythm of the facades remain.

I will be the first to admit that I really like Main Street USA. You will often find me sitting on the Wizard of Bra porch watching the passing parade. If I owned a time machine, I would travel back to the days when the stores reflected the activities of a small town, thereby reinforcing the illusion. I will have my minions keep working on that invention.

With that said, there are three changes I would like to see my minions implement immediately. The suggestions may be subtle but I feel they are important. First, I would fill in the gap between The Mad Hatter and the seasonal store on the other side of the street. There is the gate where the parade enters and exits as well as a “temporary” wall that has been there since the park opened.


Back in 1956 this gap was originally planned to be the entrance for International Street. Walt Disney wanted to build a winding path of Old World facades with little shops and experiences. There was a colorful sign placed right where the entrance was to be. The idea of an internationally themed experience would later be considered for many projects such as one in Kansas City as well as the World Showcase in Epcot.

For little while, you used to be able to buy a cup of coffee, grab a seat, and watch the other guests entering the park. During the 50th Anniversary the space was used for a huge collage of guest faces that morphed into a giant Mickey Mouse. Today, the space stands empty. It is time to fill in the gap. Space Mountain has taken up a bit of the real estate back there but I think this could be the portal to an intimate, magical experience along the lines of Ollivanders in The Wizarding World of Harry Potter at Islands of Adventure in Florida. Disney has spent a billion dollars on this technology and this would be a good place to use it.

Another priority is something that I think is long overdue. It is time to dedicate a window on Main Street to Harrison “Buzz” Price. I have gone into great deal about the importance of Buzz Price’s advice to Walt and Roy Disney here and here. Main Street would not be there if it were not for Buzz.

According to Disney there are three tests that must be met to achieve this honor. First, you must be retired. Second, you must have achieved the “highest level of service, respect, and achievement.” Finally, there must be “agreement between top individual park management and Walt Disney Imagineering, which creates the design and copy contents.” Buzz has met all of these tests. It is about time.

While we are at it, isn’t it time for a window for Alice Davis? The dolls in it’s a small world and the figures in Pirates of the Caribbean would look less magical if it weren’t for her costumes.

The third change may be subtle to many, but it has always bugged me and I want to return to Walt’s original vision. Walt and Imagineer John Hench understood the art of placemaking and the importance of the sidewalk café. The café provides a unique setting that is special to cities and, according to architect Christopher Alexander, creates “a place where people can sit lazily, legitimately, be on view, and watch the world go by.” A proper café must be near a busy path.



The hedges along the Plaza Inn need to be trimmed. They are too tall. Walt and Imagineer John Hench knew that you had to place the seating on a slightly elevated platform so that you create another people watching opportunity. Those are some of the reasons why John Hench designed this facility the way that he did. It was so important to Walt he even highlighted the site plan during one of his television broadcasts. Right now the hedges are too tall and obscure the view. Bring out the shears. Off with their heads!

I know I said I wanted three things but there is one more thing I must add. I shall miss the Carnation Plaza. For those who remember, the Carnation Plaza was the center of activity back in the day. I remember one year in the mid-1980s where they brought out the world’s greatest surviving big bands. I bought a season pass just to take advantage of this opportunity. One after another; Artie Shaw, Myron Floren, Glenn Miller’s band, etc. playing while the audience danced and ate ice cream. Can one of the old timers remind the young bean counters how much ice cream was sold before they tore out that facility?



Let’s head over the bridge into Adventureland. The obvious opportunity is to reopen the Tahitian Terrace. For over 30 years you could dine on some “authentic” Polynesian food and watch a show featuring hula dancers (one for the dads!) and a fire dancer. Good times. It is a beautiful, intimate space and it added a bit of exotica to the land. With a new Hawaiian resort, Disney finally has the cross-promotion necessary to justify any expense these days.

There is an opportunity to dream big over in Frontierland. For those that have visited The Walt Disney Family Museum and viewed the model of the Disneyland of Walt’s dream, you will notice that there is a hill that crosses over the railroad track and expands Frontierland over on the other side of the berm. This may be an opportunity.


There also seems to be a lot of land if you combine the Big Thunder Ranch and Festival arena and then plow down the soon to be obsolete Fantasyland (aka Wonder Bra) theater. Disneyland is just screaming for another E-Ticket attraction now that the Disney California Adventure expansion is winding down. I don’t have a preference other then a family friendly, highly themed attraction with a super high capacity. Could they pull something off that was not tied into another property like many of the Disneyland classics? Does WDI still have it in them?

Next door, in Fantasyland, I struggle to figure something that I would change. Lately, the park has continually “plussed” the classic dark rides such as Snow White’s Scary Adventures. Keep that up.



I could be convinced to bring back an old favorite. Fantasyland was one of the destinations of the Skyway. The building is a shell of its former self, but it stills stands. Walt was onto something with the original attraction. He knew that people have a fundamental instinct to climb up to some high place and to look down and survey the world. This attraction met that challenge perfectly. As king, the thought of bringing it back must certainly cross my mind. I may be powerful but those folks over at OSHA will still meddle. Not sure if I want to pull the trigger just yet. What do my minions desire?

When I look at the entrance to Tomorrowland from the Plaza Hub, all I can do is shake my head and try not to tear up. What is the Astro Orbitor doing in a hole in front of an abandoned PeopleMover beamway? Why isn’t the spinner up on top of the tower soaring through the clouds where it belongs?



Why did somebody move pieces of Superman's fortress and paint it an awful color to block the entrance? What does this mean? And is there a theme to Tomorrowland anymore? It used to be the world in 1986. Then it became the “World on the Move.” Now it is….


To the right is Star Tours. Okay it is a bus terminal for space travel. Got it. Fits the theme of Tomorrowland. Buzz Lightyear. Oh he is a spaceman(?). Got it. Space Mountain. Perfect. Belongs here. The (un)Official House of Energy Usage and other random displays in Innoventions? I guess Walt did have a display for the Crane Bathroom of Tomorrow display and retro is hip so there is an opportunity to make lemonade out of this lemon. The Innoventions exhibit can go and this prime piece of real estate can become something wonderful. And while we are at it, I think the time for Captain EO has come to fly his last mission. What looked campy and nostalgic is starting to just look old now that the new version of Star Tours has arrived.

We all know we want the PeopleMover back. Is there one among you who disagrees? The PeopleMover in Florida is great but the grade changes and the interaction with the Monorail makes the track layout in Disneyland superior. Bring it back. It added a kinetic energy and the opportunity for a preview of the wonderful things in store.

If this cannot be done, then I would recommend the following. For many, our collective image of an urban future would look something more like the spaceship in Wall-e or the world of Blade Runner. Large electronic signs, a gentle push toward conformity, bright, safe colors, and all of the sharp edges have been removed. Imagine the underside of the PeopleMover beam coated with a digital sign display. Something similar the Freemont Street Experience in downtown Las Vegas but on a smaller scale.

Time to check out some ideas for the new additions – New Orleans Square, Critter Country, and Toontown.

What I would like to see for New Orleans Square is a return to small unique shops. After experiencing the clever shops and the mix of exclusive merchandise at The Wizarding World of Harry Potter at Universal’s Islands of Adventure, I was impressed. You wanted to spend time in the shops and you knew that if you found something you better buy it because you will not know when you will be back again. New Orleans Square used to have the One-of-a-Kind Shop featuring beautiful antiques. Disney never expected the store to be a big moneymaker. However, it sure added to the atmosphere and gave Lillian an outlet to sell some of the stuff she didn’t want anymore. Unless somebody at Disney allows me to spend the night at the Disney Suite when I was a mere mortal, I would prefer to have the Disney Gallery back and to share that splendid view with other guests.




As we wander back toward Critter Country, the change I would make should be pretty obvious. The MBA experiment known as Winnie the Pooh must be retired. We understand why the attraction was built - a chance to sell Pooh plush. The changeover may have even sold a few more of those disgusting Tigger Tails but, compared to the version in Florida and the one in Tokyo, it seems Anaheim got the short stick. Even on the busiest days there is no line. No wonder.



Those who read Samland frequently know that I have a soft spot for Toontown. I feel it was a great addition to the park and exceeds in design compared to its function as a reliable place to see the characters. The queue for Roger Rabbit may be one of the best in any Disney park. There is little I would change. Maybe it is time to turn the effects on the Miss Daisy back on. Poor Chip n Dales Treehouse could also use a remodel.

I debated long and hard on whether or not to comment on Disney California Adventure. I have decided that it is still too early. I am pleased with what is proposed and have enjoyed watching the project progress. I will soon pack my dirigible and take a flight over Walt Disney World. In the meantime, what would you do if YOU were king or queen of Disneyland?




Sam is the author of Walt and the Promise of Progress City, an amazing book that explores how Walt Disney—the master of fiction—was determined to bring new life to the non-fiction world of city design and development and, in doing so, fundamentally improve the Great American way of life. Walt and the Promise of Progress City is available today on Amazon.

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Updated 01-26-2012 at 07:57 AM by SAMLAND

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  1. Bongo's Avatar
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    Awesome article as usual!
  2. sbk1234's Avatar
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    I'm not going to try to write nearly as much as you have in this wonderful article. I agree with most of your suggestions. However, I'll just add that I would add a lot more animatronic attractions. Shows and rides. Not static animatronics like we've seen lately in many attractions, but full-blown animatronic presentations, on par with POTC.
  3. Bronco21's Avatar
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    I would not only add another E-Ticket to Frontierland but I would add a whole new area with the new e-ticket, an alien encounter style gun fighters show, a new sit down restaurant that overlooks the area from a new mountain range, and multiple new unique shops.

    Id expand toon town and add a new interactive game ride like TSMM but that would take you through adventures with the fab five and Oswald (based on Epic Mickey). It would also involve a completely new chip and dale tree house in the same vein as the tree of life in animal kingdom but you would be able to climb through the tree and explore chip and dales home. Throughout the tree you would hear c&d running through the branches and small video screens would have interactive props and other interactive things to play with. near the base you could meet c&d. The large scaleof the tree would provide shade for toon town and make it a more bare able place in the summer.

    Adventureland would get a new walk through attraction on a second story of the shops. This attraction would Have various exotic birds, reptiles, spiders, shrunken heads, and other jungle related items/ animals. Live animals would be on exhibit and near the exit to this attraction guests could have their picture taken with birds or reptiles that CM's handled throughout the day. A new path would be added that took guests into the jungle cruise area with a small bridge over the jungle cruise. A small jungle play area would be added in the center of the jungle cruise area. The jungle cruise boats would take a slightly different path that would accommodate this play area.

    The Matterhorn would get an expedition Everest style queue and would recieve new projection effects and snow effects.

    Autopia would be significantly shortened and converted to electric. The area that northern autopia takes up would be given back to fantasyland. A new tangled canal ride would go intot the motor boat area. A villains e-ticket would go into the north corner of the autopia area. This new e-ticket would be housed in a replica of Maleficent's forbidden mountain castle. The queue would wind through the dungeons and riders would load onto a Pandora's box ride system. This ride system would take guests through vilians plans to destroy happiness and laughter. In the end good wins out but not until the guests have a few thrills.

    And pretty much everything in Tomorrowland would be redone or demolished.

    If I was king.
  4. Disneymike's Avatar
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    I have to agree with everything you say in the article Sam. I especially love your take on Main Street.
    Long live the King!!!
  5. MrTour's Avatar
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    I loved the plans for Discovery Bay at the north end of the river. Magic Kingdom has more of an open expansive feel, and this could be attained in Anaheim by lengthening the river to a new land. Pooh would have to go as there would need to be a walkway cutting through the woods to this new land (and another entrance by Thunder Ranch). I would also bring back a ride concept like America Sings; a Fantasyland attraction with all Disney characters singing great Disney classic songs. Lastly, for Tomorrowland, I would want something unique, and NOT based on any current movie. Tomorrowland was supposed to wow and surprise us with possibilities, and not us an experience we have already seen on a big screen. I want to feel like I AM in the future, and not like I am back at the local Edwards Theater watching Wall-E. NASA has some great 3D movies about the cosmos...what about a 3D America the Beautiful attraction based on the Galaxy and recent NASA/exploration findings? Let me feel like I am really out there chasing a comet.
  6. SAMLAND's Avatar
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    Great suggestions. Keep them coming.

    Sam
    SamLand's Disney Adventures
  7. bamato's Avatar
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    Excellent article Sam! Some really good ideas there. Nothing that would cost all that much (especially by comparison to the one billion dollar remodel happening next door) and would add the draw some areas have lacked over the years. They have to do SOMETHING to distribute crowds better and decrease the hotspots and poor traffic flow areas.
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    All of your ideas are phenomenal and eerily coincide with my own thoughts and wishes. It's like you read my thoughts. I particularly liked and agreed with your desire for a family friendly, highly themed E ticket attraction and have the same question. Could they pull off something not tied into another property? That's been a peeve of mine for awhile. Sure, many popular attractions are based on other properties, but many popular classic attractions are not. They are based on imagination. When will they again build something from scratch using imagination rather than based on a movie? Lets hope that when they build that new attraction that it is something unique.
  9. SAMLAND's Avatar
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    kcirrick - I was reading your mind. That explains that noise.
    bamato - I am a benevolent and somewhat realistic king.
    MrTour - The Discovery Bay stuff would be huge. The whole steampunk look is very big.
    Disneymike - Welcome to my realm good sir!
    Bronco21 - Good ideas.
    sbk1234 - I agree that the Audio-Animatronics is a signature element for Disney that they are using less and less.
    Bongo - Thanks. You keep reading and commenting and I will keep writing.

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  10. QuiGonJ's Avatar
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    Great post! But I do have one request....

    For Toontown, can we tear out the McDonaldsland playground, I mean, Donald's Boat, and maybe Gadget's Go Coaster to give a better Donald Duck experience there? I really think the feisty waterfowl needs a real showcase in Disneyland.
  11. spajadigit's Avatar
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    I agree, Mr Tour- Discovery Bay should totally be built... Or even better... A modern version of the Western River Expedition. I mean, seriously. Instead of using Marc's original use of straight up boats, turn it into a combination of sorts- roller coaster *and* water, like the Atlantis ride in Orlando. That way, you could have a thrill along with a fully imagineered experience; I'd imagine something like a stagecoach that goes out of control and falls into the water. And with Marcs visual gags, boy that would be something.

    As far as Fantasyland goes I would remove the Peter Pan attraction from where it is and replace it with a Tangled dark ride. (I've always hated how the Pan flight attracts so many people all day long that that side of the courtyard is always full.) Then, I would tear down Toontown and build a fully modern version of Peter Pan (along the lines of the new Little Mermaid attraction) using the tuna boat and Skull Rock as a queue exit. I would also put in a Great Mouse Detective attraction over there; a soft thriller that replicates the finale of the film in Big Ben. Yeah, there wouldn't be Mickey's House anymore, and the meet n' greets would have to find new homes, but I've never really liked toontown because it always felt sort of cheap to me and turning that side of Fantasyland into sort of a fantasy London area would also offer up some interesting food ideas. As far as the skyway goes? Meddle! They still have them at the San Diego Zoo and at the Mission Bay Sea World, so I don't imagine it's that difficult to get them back...

    I think you've hit the Main Street thing right on it's head. Some kind of portal to a magical place right off of Main Street would be so nice.

    Tahitian Terrace, or some magical Polynesian eatery to take it's place? Bring it. I never got to go there because I assumed it would always be there and when I was in college it was too expensive. By the time I could afford it, it was gone. And what they replaced it with? yuck.

    Tomorrowland? Bring back the People Mover, or some other attraction that makes the place look more like the World on the Move they wanted it to be in '68. Yeah, the rocket jets gives the entrance some kineticism, but they belong on the tower just to make it easier to walk into the place. I'd pull Buzz and move him to DCA just to get some room for a sci-fi underwater themed attraction. Yeah, we now have the Finding Nemo Submarine Voyage which I do like, but I would love to have another simulator attraction opposite Star Tours that does for the ocean what Star Tours does for space. A themed queue with lots of detail and animatronics, a thrilling motion base ride underwater that concludes with an earthquake... Yeah. That would rock. Also, a new show to replace Captain EO would be more than welcome.

    Another thing I would love to add is a seasonal haunted attraction near the Haunted Mansion, over in New Orleans Square. In HKDL, they have some pretty amazing haunts for Halloween. Having a New Orleans themed graveyard attraction gone wrong would be a lot of fun for a certain demographic. Not bloody like Knotts and Universal, but moody and slightly scary... Yeah.

    And these are just some of my plans, should the reigns of Disneyland ever fall into my hands.
    Updated 01-26-2012 at 11:57 AM by spajadigit (paragraphs)
  12. MrTour's Avatar
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    Oh, one other thing I would do (since I have given up on ever seeing America Sings return) would be to rebuild Cascade Peak. It added great beauty and character to Frontierland.
  13. spajadigit's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrTour
    Oh, one other thing I would do (since I have given up on ever seeing America Sings return) would be to rebuild Cascade Peak. It added great beauty and character to Frontierland.
    Totally. I was so disappointed when they tore it down.
  14. spajadigit's Avatar
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    Oh and thanks, Sam- I've been reading Kevin and Al's column but just discovered yours and it's awesome!
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    Disneyland 2055 - a Centennial Celebration
    -tethered hot air balloon in the esplanade (not an attraction for guests as in WDW, but just an attention-getter for the celebration that can be seen from far away)

    MAIN STREET
    1. seats in the main street cinema, with spruced up screens/displays explaining more about the shows
    2. open a relief lane on the east side of main street and better enable walk through of stores on the west side
    3. tour guide gardens becomes a shop or cafe or meet and greet
    4. daily Disneyland newspapers sold in town square once again
    5. buried telescoping bleacher seating in front of the Poppins bakery for the fireworks viewing and castle lighting ceremonies
    6. condense the space used for Lincoln, move lockers there
    7. a main street vehicle is always out, if not running then parked in town square, maybe as a meet and greet

    TOMORROWLAND
    1. maximum capacity of trains on the Monorail, sound horn consistently at the esplanade, Autopia and Matterhorn, Monorail stop in DCA and Grand Californian
    2. Autopia to become "hovercraft" type vehicles
    3. Revamp Innoventions to a Carousel of Progress type show again or better, the Mission to Mars now at EPCOT
    4. Create a Magic Eye theater spectacular in the honey I shrunk the audience theater
    5. Magic Eye theatre rooftop marvel…empty ugly space there now…put something cool to look at or listen to there
    6. Upstairs from the tomorrowland arcade becomes a small circlevision theater
    7. return the rocket jets to the peoplemover loading area with boarding lift, remove the current rocket jets location entirely.
    8. return some form of the people mover

    FANTASYLAND
    1. Major show in the fantasyland theater or remove the facility altogether

    TOONTOWN
    Restore/refresh the place and return the trolly

    FRONTIERLAND
    1. cascade peak waterfall rebuilt
    2. stage coach d-ticket dark ride in thunder mountain ranch area, stops in critter country going around the back of the rivers of America
    3. reopen fort wilderness
    4. return mike fink keel boats

    ADVENTURELAND
    1. Dinner show in Aladdin's Oasis

    NEW ORLEANS SQUARE
    1. Disney Gallery returned to the upstairs apartment

    CRITTER COUNTRY
    1. Stage Coach to Frontierland's Thunder Mountain Ranch/outpost (see Frontierland’s #2 above)
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    A lot of folks do the same type of armchair imagineering as you've done here, Sam. And while I usually pass them over as fanboy's dreams, your article was surprisingly right on the nose. Excellent ideas, and mostly very do-able!
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    Best article ever! I have thought I was King but never allowed to make my changes...if I could it would be as follows:

    Main Street: Walt wanted it be like a movie with long shots and opening acts with credits so it is hard to change main street but I have wondered as I slowly shuffle my way out of the park when the fireworks end what would happen in an emergency? I think Main street needs two more lanes on both sides of the buildings. I don't think that is possible on the left looking towards the castle but definitely possible on the right. It is interesting to me how popular Main Street is...especially at the end of the night and with all the new shows and epic moments in this area adding an entire new Main Street to the right of the original would just add store opportunities and a whole new way to see the castle...and I think help ease exiting. I would also add the buildings coming to life in different overlays with the new video projection technology used on the castle, It's a Small World, etc. all year round on Main Street. I would also change Hall of Presidents...I know it is classic Disney and nostalgic technology but I haven't been in there in years and that could be some valuable real estate to put a lot of the logistical things such as strollers, lockers, season passes, etc. and replace those areas on the street with more visually appealing shops and eateries.

    Will add next land later...
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    Quote Originally Posted by vnormth
    return the rocket jets to the peoplemover loading area with boarding lift, remove the current rocket jets location entirely.
    (NO ONE REALLY NEEDS TO MENTION THIS AS THIS TOTALLY GOES WITHOUT SAYING)
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    Sam, I think if we got Merlin to help you pull that Sword from it's Stone in Fantasyland, you could be "King for the Day" and get a lot of these ideas started. Correct past errors and misdeeds to the Magic Kingdom and bring back the improved Skyway (do it now while they are restoring the Matterhorn), Wedway People Mover, One of a Kind Shop (which by a recent Cast article did make money, and Lillian Disney also bought there, as did I), the Cooking Store (where I could find Copper Chief and antique kitchen items), restore Cascade Peak (then I could tie it into my themed steak house restaurant as originally planned), restore Skull Rock and Captain Hook's Ship (and those tuna burgers which I loved), restore Tahitian Terrace, revitalize Carnation Plaza Gardens and the daily Big Band entertainment and dancing (bring back it's ice cream for you and many others and it's food service, Princess's are welcome if they can swing dance, Cheryl Burke and Maksim will give lessons), have Disney VP Tony Baxter in charge of implementing his Disccovery Bay into Fronteirland (parts of it are located in Paris Disneyland and Tokyo Disney Seas with much success), bring the Band Stand back to Mainstreet (as they did at HongKong Disneyland) and keep the real light bulbs on the signage, rebuild Tom Saywer's Island per Sam McKim (without pirates) and Fort Wilderness ( Tokyo Disneyland has maintained there flip flop copy of it) and Burning Cabin(politically correct with the blown whiskey still concept used previously), restore the Swiss Family Robinson tree House ( with the updated version based on the end of the film and possible new film, GerryB are you listening?), and last but not least, give guests a chance to win a dinner at Club 33( I have had the brunch but never a dinner yet). PS (I too did like the Disney Gallery upstairs, as I could go there any purchase art and have cake and tea on the balcony)....Maybe Disney will have a reality show with families who stay in the Disney Apartment and their day at the Kingdom? The Bachelor hasn't been there yet. PD
    Updated 01-26-2012 at 04:14 PM by DisWedWay
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    Here's what I heard coming out of the last D23 Expo concerning Tomorrowland. They are rumors mind you, but rumors that would work. The Astro Orbiter would return to it's original spot above the Peoplemover platform. The rocks in front would go. I could never see the connection with the future and rocks.
    Innoventions will be turned into The Stark Exhibit (as in Tony Stark aka Iron Man) and showcase Marvel comics characters, attractions and displays.
    And The Peoplemover would return. The tracks are still there and it wouldn't take much to bring it back. The question would be, should it be the old school movers like WDW, or something more futuristic looking.
    One other change would involve both Fantasyland and Frontierland. The Festival Arena behind Big Thunder Ranch is dead space that's off limits to the public. Take everything currently behind the Fantasyland Theater and move it into the Festival Arena area. Then when the new Fantasy Faire opens next to the castle, turn that whole Princess Fantasy Faire area into Disneyland's very own Fantasyland expansion project just like at WDW.
    Updated 01-26-2012 at 03:52 PM by DisneyResort
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