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    Re: Stolen Property

    I don't have any advice or words of wisdom for you but I wanted to let you know how sorry I am that this happened to you.

    My car was recently broken into and the thief took similar things from me, I feel your pain...it just sucks.

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    Re: Stolen Property

    That's horrible when you are violated in a place that you've come to trust, such as your place of work.
    I'd be willing to bet that Disney released their liability of stolen CM property in paperwork that you signed when you were hired.

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    Re: Stolen Property

    sorry to hear that. it had to be a cast members since it was a backstage area. I know how you feel someone broke into my car last week...its more of a pain to replace everything

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    Re: Stolen Property

    I'm no lawyer, but...

    Does Disneyland require that you use one of their company-issued locks? Or do you also have the option of using your own lock?

    I ask this because if Disneyland is requiring you to use one of their own locks, and those locks are sub-standard, easily pick-able, etc...or are in any way less secure than what you would want to use and you were willing to provide your own better lock (key or combo) at your own expense...a case could perhaps be made against Disneyland.

    But I think that type of claim would have required you to have made such a request to use your own lock at some point prior to the theft. If you had made such a request and were denied, your argument would have been something along the lines of "You made me use your crummy lock...and now look what happened."

    Though I think even that would be hard (and costly) to prevail with in a court of any type. But it might help with an "argument" in a simple internal claim attempt filed with the company. Of course, that is...if it happened that way.
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    Re: Stolen Property

    I was also told the Disney issued combo locks are no good. I didn't think much of it. CMs often use their own personal locks I think. Not sure if CMs could just return the company locks if they don't want to use them, can they?? I heard personal locks that you need a key to open are better, is that true?

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    Re: Stolen Property

    That's why if it can't fit in my pocket, then I don't bring it with me to my shift.

    You cannot use your own locks in the day lockers. They'll cut them off. You can use your own lock at the area lockers, the ones at or behind your location (at least in Attractions, I don't know about other locations).

    Don't we have a Cast Member forum that this might be more appropriate for? :P
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    Re: Stolen Property

    I'm very sorry to hear about that - it's the worst that the thing that will 'cost' you the most by losing it didn't take much money to create.
    It sounds like someone knows how to pick locks around there - and may have seen you put your things into there.
    I hope that this will be your only experience. It takes away a little of the magic in Disneyland to know there are people like that lurking around

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    Re: Stolen Property

    I'm so sorry this happened to you. Do you have any kind of insurance which might cover some of the losses? Sometimes "Renter's Insurance" covers theft as well. If you live at home with your parents, check to see if their homeowner's policy would cover some of it. Did you file a police report? Many times the insurance company will require that a report is filed. I'll keep you in my thoughts! Hope something good comes from this and you will either get your stuff back or some insurance covers it. Take Care!
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    Re: Stolen Property

    Sorry about losing your stuff, but (and this was my first thought when reading your post) : why were you carrying all that expensive stuff with you to work? Couldn't you just take your wallet, car keys, and lip balm and be good? Were you planning to do homework or something? I learned the hard way only bring essentials in with you to work because it's so easy for things to get messed up while working (purse was next to the filing cabinet/almost entirely under my desk, there was a bottle of maple syrup on my desk for a project the next day, kid went to grab a post-it pad for me, hitting the bottle, whole bottle of maple syrup dumped in my purse). I would talk to Disney security, and see what can happen, but maybe this is a hard lesson learned. Talk to your teachers if they need that work/binder stuff... And hopefully karma will get that person.

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    Re: Stolen Property

    Hi, two things:

    1. this sort of topic really belongs in the Break Room forum. [EDIT: Wow, ask and ye shall receive!]

    Quote Originally Posted by Riverbelle Skylark View Post
    I'm a full time student so I show up to work right after I get out of school. I had at least $400 worth inside my backpack at the time.
    2. This is not a very good day-to-day policy to follow, going forward, especially if that backpack is going to be out of your sight for any length of time. Keep the books & clothes and papers separate from the electronics at all times.

    Quote Originally Posted by Riverbelle Skylark View Post
    - iPod Nano ($200)
    - Graphing Calculator ($100)
    - Audio-Technica Headphones ($100)
    - Personal Clothes ($60)
    - Books for class ($60)
    - My Binder Full of Essays, Hand-Outs, and Notes I had taken All Semester (Can't really put a price on that)
    Did you really need all that stuff in your backpack, given that you knew you'd be working that evening? Was it simply not possible to stop off at home briefly so that all you'd bring to work was your street clothes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Riverbelle Skylark View Post
    I contacted Disneyland Security, Anaheim Police Dept, Guest Services and Lost & Found. So far they all summed up theres nothing they can do for me but "investigate". My chances of seeing my belongs again feel very hopeless.
    Yeah, honestly, don't expect to ever see those items again, ever. From now on, make copies and/or backups of your schoolwork and/or keep it where you're certain it's safe. Don't bring electronics to work, since you know there's no security that you can depend on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Riverbelle Skylark View Post
    The cost of me replacing all of this stuff is my entire paycheck for the whole month. All those hours I worked trying to save money before I go to college. I'm 17 and Senior in High School.

    The hardest part about dealing with this situation is knowing I probably will never get my binder back. : / Inside it was pretty much my entire High School portfolio: Critiqued Essays, Music Theory Notes, and Econ Stock Analysis.

    My Employee Manual says Disneyland Resort is not responsible for CM Theft, but I was thinking that since it was a Company Issued Lock, the Company is at fault for my loss? I understand if I had left it lying around, it was just asking to be stolen, but I had placed my back pack in the designated area with the mandatory company lock that had given me.

    - So should I ask them to reimburse me ?(I really don't want to spend this months entire paycheck : /...)

    - And If Disneyland refused to reimburse me, Should I/Can I take legal action?
    I would definitely ask for reimbursement, given the circumstances of the theft and what was stolen (the street clothes and school work is more important than the electronic items), and if they refused, absolutely I'd take legal action. As a Disneyland employee, you do have a reasonable expectation that your street clothes will not be stolen while you're working in costume. You may also have a case regarding the lock that was issued by Disneyland, and what appears to be absolutely no security monitoring system.

    Quote Originally Posted by Riverbelle Skylark View Post
    - Will taking legal action be worth it? I hear legal fees would be expensive...
    Probably not that much, given the total amount of the items stolen. Would it be worth it? It might be, especially if they agree to settle out of court. $500 is nothing off Disney's back, but you're still out all those school papers.

    If Disneyland wants to claim that it's not responsible for the theft of its CMs' personal belongings, then they need to be willing for CMs to bring their belongings with them to the jobsite. They can't require employees to keep their personal belongings in an unsecured location while they work and then claim no responsibility for stolen items. That's legalistic BS that would be thrown back in their faces on The People's Court, even.

    In fact, yeah, take it to The People's Court. Disney will settle out of court real quick to avoid a public embarrassment like this.
    Last edited by Retrocool; 02-27-2008 at 05:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retrocool View Post
    In fact, yeah, take it to The People's Court. Disney will settle out of court real quick to avoid a public embarrassment like this.
    I don't think you are aware that both parties must agree to have their case settled via People's Court. Nobody can force either side of a dispute on to the show. People's Court is not real court. It's just two parties agreeing to let a TV judge (usually retired) settle their case outside of the real court system. It's more like outside arbitration, in a phony courtroom setting.

    People's Court usually scours the official court dockets looking for interesting cases, and also uses cases submitted by one or both parties in a lawsuit...and then invites both parties to allow the TV show to "try" the case. In exchange...the show pays the settlement even if the "judge" rules against you. On top of that, both sides are paid appearance fees, which is also what makes it attractive to both parties sometimes. The only thing anyone might lose, is face.

    So I wouldn't suggest that anyone wave the threat of People's Court in front of Disney. They'd just laugh you out of the office. And you can pretty much bet if People's Court called Disney and asked if they wanted to have the TV show arbitrate...they's probably hang up the phone!


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    Thank you for replying everyone. It's day 2 (and Ironically my 18th birthday). I'm starting to feel better about my loss :/ With conditioning it, it's getting easier to let go of that stuff...


    It seems like it's probably a rare occurrence and a low payback for someone to do it randomly and that they might likely have known that there was a lot of valuables in your locker to make it worthwhile.

    Anyone where you work (or that might have seen you) that would know ?
    There really could've not have been a way anyone knew what was inside my back pack. I show up to work by myself and I don't really know enough people to start conversation in the Locker Area. The person would have to have X-Ray Vision or something because, I only opened my back pack to put my clothes in. I never touched the iPod or other misc. At the time i was changing/putting my stuff away there was only one other CM and he was too busy changing to notice anything in my pack. (Clothes were spread all over the floor) There was no one in the hall way when I was putting my pack in the locker either.

    Does Disneyland require that you use one of their company-issued locks? Or do you also have the option of using your own lock?
    Yeah in that Designated spot they require me to use the Company Issue Locks. There are signs everywhere they say Personal Locks are Prohibited/Will be Cut Off.

    but i had Alternatives :/ In my Location, they dont seem to mind if we use personal locks. I could've used those lockers :/ I just didn't know how the company would like it if i'm carrying a backpack through the park on the way to Location, so I just kept myself at Cast Costuming Lockers.

    why were you carrying all that expensive stuff with you to work?
    I'm a full time student, so right after school gets out, I'm on the next OCTA bus to Disneyland. My School is 5 minutes away from Disneyland, My House is 40 minutes away, So really I don't have that many options with what I bring.

    In fact, yeah, take it to The People's Court. Disney will settle out of court real quick to avoid a public embarrassment like this.
    Hahaha, My teacher actually recommended it today. Day time Court TV lol. Maybe if I get really desperate.

    [quote]The only thing anyone might lose, is face.]
    Exactly haha.


    Maybe i should contact FOX 11 News, their news coverage is ridiculously hilarious and the way the edit their segments. LOL
    Last edited by Riverbelle Skylark; 02-27-2008 at 08:13 PM.

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    Re: Stolen Property

    Quote Originally Posted by Riverbelle Skylark View Post
    I just didn't know how the company would like it if i'm carrying a backpack through the park on the way to Location, so I just kept myself at Cast Costuming Lockers.
    They don't mind at all. I've walked through the middle of Main Street with my backpack and never had anyone say anything to me.

    I almost had someone steal my stuff once. I came back from my shift at costuming to find that my locker was unlocked. Thankfully, the only thing they got away with was my extra nametag that I carry for when I need to wear a jacket, but it was unnerving none the less. Of course, I did report it to security, just so they would know.

    The company does officially discourage you from bringing anything of value to work. However, if you do, you can sign it in with security. So they can check to make sure that it leaves with the person who brought it. I do this sometime when I have an early afternoon shift and have to rush over from school with my laptop.


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    Sorry again about your stuff but HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

    I hope all of this won't get in the way of celebrating this big day for you

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    hmmm. edited out
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