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    Genesis - concert review

    I wrote this for a Genesis mailing list I'm on, so I'm just re-posting it here for anyone who might actually care. Thanks.




    My thoughts on Hartford, San Jose and Sacramento ***REALLY LONG*** (no, I'm not kidding)


    For what it's worth, here's what I thought of the three shows I've seen so far:

    Hartford: The anticipation I was feeling before the show was incredible. I had thought I'd never see them again, and even when the first official announcement of the tour came out, I wasn't sure how I felt about it. But the more I heard about it, the more excited I got, so I went from "yeah, I might go see them once" to "how many times can I get away with seeing them"? When they took the stage and then as they went through each song, it was just great to hear how incredible they still were. For this show, I was on the right side of the stage, about 3 sections from the stage, about half-way up. Everyone knows the setlist so just some thoughts on individual songs:

    During "Land of Confusion", Phil gestured to the front row. I thought he was just motioning some of them over so that he could shake their hands since they had their hands outstretched. It took me a second to realize that he was motioning specifically to one guy who had a celphone in his hand, presumably calling someone so they could hear the song over the phone. The guy handed the phone to Phil, and for a couple of lines, Phil was singing simultaneously into the phone and the mic. The crowd went crazy. Can you imagine being on the other end of that call? Or better yet, listening to your voicemail and hearing Phil singing to you?

    "Afterglow" - One of the songs I love, and it was incredible to hear how beautifully Phil sang it. Same with "Ripples". Amazing.

    "I Know What I Like" - I loved the montage that goes by, but it's so hard trying to decide whether to watch the montage or the stage, especially with Phil's antics. So fitting that Peter and Steve should be included in the montages (and Daryl and Chester, of course). I looked to see if Ray was in there, and I didn't see any in the times I was looking, but as much as I like "Calling All Stations" (the album as a whole), Ray was really just a blip and more of a hired gun in the history of Genesis. I'm still surprised that the album artwork appears on some of the tour merchandise - I didn't even expect that.

    "Mama" - When I first heard that they were doing this, I was really surprised because doing this song totally rips Phil's vocal chords to shreds. Singing this every night of the tour? Maybe they decided to go ahead and do it since it was a relatively short tour, and there's quite a bit of instrumental work on the setlist, so at least Phil isn't singing for the entire close-to-3 hours.

    "Invisible Touch" - Oh my gosh! Indoor fireworks! I had no idea. How very cool.


    San Jose: This has been the best show so far for me. I had a floor seat, 18th row, left of center. The people around me were so into the concert - some of them would leave to get drinks or go to the bathroom, but mostly, people were focussed on the show. The guy to my left had never seen them live before and never thought he would. He said he was also attending the Friday night Bowl show. The guy to my right hadn't seen them since the 80s, and he was just loving every minute of it. I was standing/dancing for most of the concert, which was fine and which I expected being on the floor. When everyone was standing, I could still get a good view of Tony, so I didn't have to rely only on what the cameras showed me. At Hartford, I basically only had a view of the back of his head. There was a tall guy a couple rows in front of me, but I could see Chester and Phil on either side of him. And when people in front of me were sitting down, I could see the entire stage. I couldn't believe I was that close.

    "Hold On My Heart" - Phil seemed to be struggling with some of the notes, though I couldn't tell if it was really just him or some distortion from the sound system.

    "Ripples" - This seemed to be a favorite of the floor crowd at least. Though it happened on some other songs as well, on this song in particular, the crowd was acting as Phil's backup on "Sail away, away". It sounded amazing.

    "Throwing It All Away" - I had been surprised at how they staged this song when I saw them in Hartford, with the camera just showing people in the crowd, but I realized that it was another slow song in the set, and they wanted to make it more fun. The tempo was a bit more upbeat than the song normally is, so that added to it.

    "Domino" - During Phil's demonstration of the domino principle, when he got to the "tiny people in the back", they reacted by throwing their arms up, but they didn't jump to their feet like the other sections had. Phil apparently noticed because he then said, "Don't get up." I laughed a lot at that comment. I also loved seeing the band doing their part of the "affects those of us up here", especially sedate Tony throwing his arms up.

    From that proximity, I could better see facial reactions and observe a lot more of what the guys were doing, both when they had the spotlight on them and otherwise. It was so nice to see the playfulness among them, and they'd be joking around with each other. They really seemed like they were enjoying themselves up there. And even though Phil tells the same stories/jokes every night, some of which he's told for several decades, he still does a good job of making them sound fresh.


    Sacramento: For this show, I was on the left side of the stage, about as far back as the 13th row on the floor, and I was about 5 rows up, so I was at about where the left projection screen was. Still a pretty good view of everyone, except that during certain parts, the lights on the right side of the stage would light, and they'd be blinding, since they were just to the right of Tony from my viewpoint.

    I noticed especially during the drum duet but also at other instrumental parts that it looks like Phil is chewing gum or candy. Is that to keep his throat moist? Does he spit it out when he's actually singing and only has it in his mouth when he's just the drummer?

    I also noticed that after "Follow You, Follow Me", the roadie switched out his drumsticks. It looked like that was planned (I think I noticed that at Hartford too), but I don't know if the sound is just different with different sticks or they wear after a while or what, since that's almost about the half-way point.

    "Ripples" - The crowd was doing the same backup singing as in San Jose. I hadn't noticed that happening in Hartford.

    "Domino" - This time, when the "tiny people in the back" reacted, Phil again said, "Don't get up." But then he added, "Oh, wait, you're already up." Was this an inside joke for those who'd been the night before, including the band? No matter, I laughed.

    When I was in the merchandise line before the concert, there was a kid there, probably in high school, who was there with his dad and a friend. The kid was saying that if his dad would buy him a t-shirt, he'd buy one himself as well. His dad asked why he needed 2 t-shirts. His response was, "They're my favorite band!" It was nice to see the mixture of ages of people there. This kid definitely did not look old enough to have even been able to see them live before.

    On the darker side, there were two donkeyopenings sitting in front of me who decided they needed to talk throughout the entire show. Sometimes, it was about the show itself. "How weird is this? Dude, isn't this weird?" Sometimes, it was about entirely unrelated things, like where one wanted to go on vacation. Why the hell do you come to a show to talk through the whole thing? There were parts where they weren't even paying attention to what was going on onstage. I think their wives were doing the exact same thing. So their talking would be intrusive during the faster and slower songs since they'd have to yell loud enough to hear each other over the actual concert being performed there. One of them also decided to be an even bigger donkey and he'd sing/yell *really* loudly at parts, totally off-key. And he'd make derogatory comments about how the band would have to change this or that part when they played L.A. because L.A. people would never go for that. Hey, donkeyopening, he's been doing the "Home by the Sea" routine for years now, and even though it's a little different this time, the audience participates no problem in L.A.


    With the first three shows I've seen, I've been on both sides and the middle and from different distances, so I've been able to see the show as a whole, with the screens and lights and such, as well as the more intimate moments on stage. I think they did a good job of mixing it up on the setlist, with lots of older and newer stuff, and I'm surprised (though enjoyably so) that there is so much instrumental stuff in the set. The only song I'd take out is "I Can't Dance" since I'm not all that fond of the song, but it is contagious and catchy and gets the audience up again during the encore. I'd rather they substituted "Anything She Does" - it's from the same album and also upbeat, though obviously not a hit, and then Phil might have to apologize for the content of the song like he does after "Mama".


    Only two more shows left on the tour, both at the Hollywood Bowl. I'm really interested to see how the stage setup is going to work, given the Bowl's shell and all. There's a part of me that's not feeling sad because I never expected to see them again, so being able to see them on this tour has been a bonus. And I already went through these feelings during Phil's First Final Farewell Tour, when I'd resigned myself to never seeing him on tour again. But who knows what I'll feel on Friday and then Saturday night, knowing this is really probably the end. I can only hope that they can work something out with Peter.

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    Re: Genesis - concert review

    I just got back from the bowl show tonight. We were rained out after Invisible Touch. Any one want to fill me in on what we missed? Was that the last song before the encores?
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    Hollywood Bowl - Friday night

    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnn in Wndrlnd View Post
    I just got back from the bowl show tonight. We were rained out after Invisible Touch. Any one want to fill me in on what we missed? Was that the last song before the encores?
    Yep, that's the last song of the regular set. The encore would have consisted of "I Can't Dance" and "Carpet Crawlers".




    Hollywood Bowl - Friday night


    The falling rain never seemed to put a damper on the audience, but it did end the concert a little early.

    I was really interested in seeing what the setup would be like because the Bowl's shell would be an obstacle they haven't had to deal with otherwise on the tour. They did end up keeping most of the stage setup. All the balls inside the shell of the Bowl were taken out, so that left a lot of room. The 7 light fixtures that hang over the boys was in place, as was the video screen behind them. The screen that's normally behind that wasn't in place because there was no place to put it. I was wondering what they were going to do during something like "Mama", where the heavy drum parts later in the song were accompanied by the bright flashing white lights that interrupted the red hue of the song itself. Well, it worked out great because they had the lights inside the shell pulsing to that beat instead. It was great. Instead of the oval screens on the side, they had square screens instead. I didn't notice, but the husband noticed that there was a second set of screens about half-way back, so that those in the back had screens that were closer for them to see. The gangplank/walkway on the left side of the stage was gone, as was the riser part on the right, where Phil normally sings the beginning of the last section of "In The Cage", after he's been offstage for a bit. The right side of the stage was just flat.

    I had been surprised that they had chosen to play the Bowl rather than something like Staples. I don't know if the other venues were unavailable or if they specifically picked the Bowl, but even with the limitations and problems that ended up arising from being in an outdoor stadium, it just seemed right for them to play a venue as classic and iconic as the Hollywood Bowl in what one might speculate is their last tour. It was just so amazing to see and hear them with the backdrop of the Bowl's shell behind them. The other added bonus is that the Bowl has lights in the back of the theatre as well as in the middle walkway, and all those lights were used to great effect for many of the songs, so whereas at the other venues, all of the light really just came from the stage, the entire stadium here was bathed in whatever color was the theme for any particular song or moment. During "Mama", the entire stadium was just a sea of red - gorgeous.

    I can't remember what song it was - maybe "Mama"? - but at one point, the top of the Bowl had smoke coming out with alternating reddish lights so it seemed like the top of the Bowl was on fire. It looked incredible.

    The forecast had called for rain, but they had said it wasn't expected until very late in the night, maybe midnight. Well, the rain showed up a bit early. A light rain started towards the end of "In The Cage" - I had a bad feeling as Phil was singing "Raindrops keep falling on my head", and the rain started shortly thereafter. Following "Afterglow", Phil made a comment about knowing what you should expect to get with a Genesis concert - "the effin rain. Oh, Genesis is having an outdoor concert tonight?" and then Phil made the sound like a rip-roaring thunderstorm/cloudburst. It was a steady, but not heavy, rain, and it lasted through "Hold On My Heart" and stopped right before "Home By The Sea".

    I was a bit surprised but very pleased that so many people seemed to be enjoying "Firth of Fifth" and really happy that it was being played. People were up and dancing, almost like what you'd expect from a Top 40 hit song and not an instrumental.

    As Phil was doing the intro for "Ripples", one of the women in front of him must have said something to him. (Unlike at the other venues I've seen, the Bowl has people right up against the edge of the stage.) He said something like, "Well, I'm a little busy right now. ... I love you too." He was talking about apologizing for the previous song and its smut and filth and now going to a place where virgins live. He must have been really distracted by the woman who interrupted him because he didn't say the next line about how where virgins live is nowhere near here obviously. He seemed to rush through the intro more than he did at the other shows.

    The rain had stopped but started again at the very end of "Throwing It All Away". The "Domino" demonstration was still fun, though Tony didn't participate in the part where the people on stage are affected as well. I think he was preoccupied with his equipment. More on that later. From that point on, it was raining steadily, first about the same heaviness as earlier in the concert, but then it started to rain harder. People were still very appreciative during the drum duet and "Los Endos", and lots of people were dancing for "Tonight, Tonight, Tonight" and more were dancing for "Invisible Touch".

    During the beginning of "Tonight, Tonight, Tonight", Phil also made another reference to the effin rain and changed the ending of one line later in the song to be in reference to the rain. And yes, of course, there are the rain references at the beginning of the song.

    At various points during the show, in between songs, the roadies would run on stage and cover equipment and wipe down the stage and other equipment with towels. Phil actually referenced them at one point, so we of course gave them a hearty round of applause. Sometime during the show, a bunch of roadies came out and put hard plastic covers around/on top of Tony's keyboards. He was further up the stage than the drums or Steve or Daryl, so he and his stuff was apparently getting wet. Later in the show, they even brought out a huge umbrella (like you'd see on patio furniture) to cover him and his stuff as well. I had the husband take a couple pictures with his celphone. Not sure you can even see anything, but here they are for what they're worth: picture 1: http://www.colddeadfish.net/images/private/genhb01.jpg and picture 2: http://www.colddeadfish.net/images/private/genhb02.jpg. I think you can sort of see the umbrella in picture two - it's in between the second and third light fixtures from the right. Well, about 2/3rd of the way through "Invisible Touch", I heard this noise that sounded like Tony had either just smashed his hands all over the keyboards and hit a boatload of random notes or someone had just dropped the keyboards on the ground. I looked at Tony, and he was leaning down under one of the keyboards, and I figured he was turning it off. The husband said it sounded like the water had shorted out one of the keyboards. They finished the song and then all left the stage. I couldn't tell if Phil left and came back or just stayed out, but he said, "Ladies and Gentlemen, we're lucky that we made it this far through the show, but you're all getting soaked and our equipment is breaking, and we can't play anymore. On behalf of Mike and Tony and Steve and Chester, thank you so much for coming. Be careful driving home." (That's not verbatim, but it's the gist of what he said.) People were disappointed, and I think they would have definitely stayed for the encore, but the boys really just couldn't do it anymore.

    When the show started, I noticed that Phil had a light jacket on, zipped up all the way to his neck. He didn't have a jacket in the other shows, but I figured since this was an outdoor venue, he needed to keep his throat and chest warm. It wasn't until much later, though, when I was watching him on one of the screens, that I noticed how wet his jacket was. I should have realized that if Tony and the keyboards was getting wet, Phil would be getting wet while he was singing as well since he's pretty far up the stage. It wasn't terribly cold out, but being wet and being rained on couldn't possibly have been very good for him and his voice, though he sounded great throughout. Even with all the rain and the problems, all of them put on a great show. When Phil was doing his announcement and because of the other times he was swearing during the show, you could tell he was really pissed off about the rain.

    I don't think missing "I Can't Dance" was a big thing, but I feel really sorry for those who missed out on "Carpet Crawlers" and Phil's genuine thank you at the end. He did get some of that in, but of course he was hurried because of the weather. And it wasn't a case of them stopping the show and then the rain letting up right afterward. It took a while to get out of the stadium and all, and it was raining the whole time, and it even rained harder.


    The rain is supposed to end mid-afternoon on Saturday, so we should be good for the Saturday night show. It'll be interesting to see what sort of mood Phil will be in.

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    Hollywood Bowl - Saturday night

    Hollywood Bowl - Saturday night

    There's not a lot to say about this show other than that it was the most incredible show I've seen. I had a seat that was extremely close, so I was able to see all of them and their expressions quite well.

    Before the concert started, when they were playing random music, one of the songs they played was Simon Collins' version of "Keep It Dark". It sounded good.

    During "Home By The Sea", Phil screwed up during the intro. When he was talking about the scary people, he initially said that they came out of the walls of the carpet (instead of the walls of the house). When the audience hooted and hollered at his mistake, he just kind of stared out into the audience and said, "You know what I mean to say!" And then he said it correctly.

    During the intro to "Domino", when he got to the "tiny people in the back", after they reacted, he said, "Don't get up. Oh, sorry, you're already up." I figured out that what he meant by that is that they were so small that he couldn't tell if they were standing or not.

    There were some clouds in the sky but not a drop of rain. Phil still had his jacket on, and I saw him zip it up right up against his throat a few times and then unzip it a little at others. Sometime during the course of the show, someone brought a jacket out to Tony. Since he's not moving around stage, he's probably more susceptible to cold than the others, but then, Daryl and Mike had their jackets on the whole show.

    They were definitely "on" during every song. The audience was totally into the entire show, and it looked to be a full house, and I think the boys completely fed off that. And of course, it was also the last night of the tour, so there's an energy around that as well. Before "Carpet Crawlers", in addition to thanking Daryl and Chester, Phil also mentioned the names of a lot of the touring crew, as well as production managers and Tony Smith and various other people. And Phil also made a comment about not having ever said this before, in public or in private, but he turned to Tony and said, "I love you Tony" and then turned to Mike and said, "I love you Mike". And then he said, "And being English, we're now just going to continue right along." And they launched into "Carpet Crawlers".


    Oh, and celebrity sighting note: given that it's in L.A., I thought there might be some celebrities in the crowd, but I wasn't looking too hard. After the concert was over, I sat for a while, and when I finally got up to leave to take some pictures of the stage from further away, I noticed that the person who came out of a row into the walkway was Greg Grunberg, who people might know as Matt Parkman, from "Heroes", the cop who can read people's minds.


    I know a lot of people have talked about the ticket prices for these shows, and I completely understand that everyone has their own idea of whether or not something is worth it. I'm grateful that I had the means to be able to see them 5 times in 3 different cities (I know others saw them more than that on this tour), and I ended up dropping a fairly hefty amount on this last show. But it was totally worth it. It's an experience I'm never going to forget. And at the end, I wasn't sad. They left me with incredible memories on this tour, and since I never really expected to see them again, it's not a matter of saying goodbye to them now. I'd already done that. Seeing them on this tour was a bonus, something I didn't think would happen, so every opportunity that I had to see them on this tour was something I wouldn't have otherwise had. Some people don't understand seeing them more than once, but for me, it's being able to get a fuller experience. Seeing them once wasn't going to give me a good enough impression of the entire show. With the Hartford, San Jose and Sacramento shows, I was able to be on the right, center and left, and I was at three different distances, so I could see the overall show when seated further and see more of the details when seated closer. Same with the two Bowl shows. Sitting a little further back Friday night meant I could notice more of the lights that washed over the entire stadium, and I had a great view of the orange light/smoke fire effect off the top of the Bowl and the fireworks as well and the general light show coming off the stage. But tonight, being as close as I was, I could see more of the boys interacting with each other, of the emotions that were on their faces at different parts, of the details of the stage and show. I could add up the sum total of what I've spent on this tour, but the experience and memories are priceless.



    I ended up taking almost 300 pictures and 3 videos, including the entire thank you speech and "Carpet Crawlers". They should be up sometime in the next couple days for anyone who'd like to take a look.

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    During "Land of Confusion", Phil gestured to the front row. I thought he was just motioning some of them over so that he could shake their hands since they had their hands outstretched. It took me a second to realize that he was motioning specifically to one guy who had a celphone in his hand, presumably calling someone so they could hear the song over the phone. The guy handed the phone to Phil, and for a couple of lines, Phil was singing simultaneously into the phone and the mic. The crowd went crazy. Can you imagine being on the other end of that call? Or better yet, listening to your voicemail and hearing Phil singing to you?
    Rick Springfield does this at his shows during "Don't Talk to Strangers" and tries to get the person on the other end to sing along. Last time I saw him, I was right up front, so I called my friend Tina.... and Rick took my phone! But apparently it was a bad connection and he gave it back and tried someone else's phone.

    A couple days later, I talked to Tina and she asked if I had called her the other night at my concert. I told her I did. Turns out she was at our local bar with some other friend of ours and when she answered her phone, she heard the music, then she said she heard some guy say, "Tina, can you hear me?" She said to our friends, "I think Rick Springfield is talking to me!" Our friends just laughed and said, "Yeah sure.... have another beer!" She about flipped when I told her it really was him. That weekend we went to the bar and she was all "It WAS Rick! I'm not crazy!"

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    Great reviews.

    This is the one show this year I REALLY wanted to see but was unable to get to. (Just too close to WDW).

    Glad to hear they still have it. I really was looking forward to my first Genesis show.

    Hopefully this isn't the last.


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    Re: Genesis - concert review

    After reading your review, I'm immediately hit with regret that I didn't suck it up and go this time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SusieP. View Post
    After reading your review, I'm immediately hit with regret that I didn't suck it up and go this time.
    Me too Susie.

    Next tour (if there is one) ... it's a date.


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    Re: Genesis - concert review

    Done! I was lucky and saw them last time at Dodger Stadium and it was fantastic. I've also seen Phil Collins solo, but man, that was a long, long time ago. Long. Time. Ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SusieP. View Post
    I've also seen Phil Collins solo, but man, that was a long, long time ago. Long. Time. Ago.
    You didn't see his First Final Farewell Tour?

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    OK, I've created a file that includes all the pictures I took, minus the bad ones that I've already deleted. Here's a link: http://www.colddeadfish.net/entertai...s10132007.html. Be warned that it's a huge file, including 222 pictures. As I mention on the page, anyone is welcome to take any pictures they want, though I do ask for credit if you're putting the pictures on another site. There's also a link to where all the files themselves are located.

    Videos should be up in the next week or so.

    Thanks.

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    Thanks cstephens. I'll look at the pics when I get home.

    Any word if they are releasing a DVD of the tour? I know it's pretty common practice nowadays and was just wondering if they have said. (I'm sure I could find out on my own, but I don't feel like looking right now. )


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    Re: Genesis - concert review

    Quote Originally Posted by cstephens View Post
    You didn't see his First Final Farewell Tour?
    Nope, but what a great name for a tour! I saw him in like, 1991-ish, the Serious Hits Live album era.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sir clinksalot View Post
    Any word if they are releasing a DVD of the tour? I know it's pretty common practice nowadays and was just wondering if they have said. (I'm sure I could find out on my own, but I don't feel like looking right now. )
    I haven't heard anything about a DVD, but I might not have been paying attention. I know that as part of the fan club membership, we're supposed to get something after the tour is over, but I can't remember what that is right now.

    They are selling what they're calling "official bootleg" CDs of each tour date, taped live from the board of each concert, both the European leg and the U.S. portion. Unfortunately, not all of the dates are available - I'm especially disappointed that because of some kind of licensing issue or something, the two Hollywood Bowl shows won't be available. I'd love to have a complete audio recording of Saturday night's show. I don't have the site offhand, but if you're interested, I'll look it up and post it.

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    Re: Genesis - concert review

    The only way I'd go see Genesis is if Peter Gabriel came back.

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