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    Who's Tried the Xbox360?

    I went to Walmart tonight and they had one on display using an HD TV

    at first I thought it looked alot better but my friend and cousin pointed out it isn't too diff from what RE4 already presents you when it's run in progressive scan mode (we all figure the PS3 will be the one to REALLY deliver on the graphics this next gen)

    that said the graphics do look a bit better and the controler is comfortable

    the design is pretty much the same as current gen though and I actualy felt like the triggers were of cheeper quality or something but hey I found the Xbox controler to be the most comfortable of all the current gen (dispite the fact that the Xbox is my least fav of the current gen I've tended to favor PS2 and GC titles over what the Xbox has had)


    anyways anyone else played it? what were your impressions?

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    Re: Who's Tried the Xbox360?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jspider
    (we all figure the PS3 will be the one to REALLY deliver on the graphics this next gen)
    Good to note that when the PS3 comes out in 2007, it will have better graphics, because that's 2 YEARS away vs. just a few weeks.

    I'm only really buying an Xbox 360 for the intergrated Media Center Extender 2.0 anyway. I'd spend $250 on it anyway, so I might as well add another $150, and get something that can play DVDs, and games.

    I've messed around with a 360 in Wal-Mart, and was impressed. However, the specific feature that I am buying it for (MCX), was not present in that Firmware.
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    Re: Who's Tried the Xbox360?

    Quote Originally Posted by Monorail Man
    Good to note that when the PS3 comes out in 2007, it will have better graphics, because that's 2 YEARS away vs. just a few weeks.

    I'm only really buying an Xbox 360 for the intergrated Media Center Extender 2.0 anyway. I'd spend $250 on it anyway, so I might as well add another $150, and get something that can play DVDs, and games.

    I've messed around with a 360 in Wal-Mart, and was impressed. However, the specific feature that I am buying it for (MCX), was not present in that Firmware.
    2007? Sony has claimed a 2006 date

    I've only seen 2007 posted on Nintendo fansites

    in all honesty I expect both (Rev and PS3) to be released somewere in 2006 and I'm really leaning towards Christmas being the actual time of release for those two

    but yeah a year can make all the difference

    what exactly does this media center do that makes you want it so badly? (media centers are of no concern to me, I've got an awsome dual monitor TVcard combo going on my computer that can't be beat)

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    Re: Who's Tried the Xbox360?

    I like the 360 so far, but the price point, graphics, and gmae lineup aren't enough to get me to shell out money just yet. And after seeing the Metal Gear Solid 4 trailer, I am leaning more and more towards a PS3 (please make the contoller less batarang like!).

    I REALLY like the feel of the 360 controller. It seems not much has changed from the E3 build. Feels like the best parts of every controller over the past 20 years.

    Very nice, but there seem to be too many perks with the PS3... mainly Blu-ray, which is pretty much confirmed to win the war.

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    Re: Who's Tried the Xbox360?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jspider
    what exactly does this media center do that makes you want it so badly? (media centers are of no concern to me, I've got an awsome dual monitor TVcard combo going on my computer that can't be beat)
    Right now, our entire Home Television experince is controlled by Media Center.

    Windows XP Media Center Edition allows you to consume media in the convience of a Ten-Foot UI, and allows you to time-shift television.

    The main dual-tuner MCE box is in the Living Room. It controls the main TV, and the Xbox 1 extender controls the TV in my father's room.

    My PC is another dual-tuner MCE box, that can grab recorded TV from any of the TVs, and pick my shows to record/whatever.

    So, let's take a look out our digital consuming household:

    First, before I wake-up in the morning, all night, my MCE box is recording all my favorite Adult Swim shows. Then at 10am, I record the Price Is Right. Before I leave the house for school/work, all those programs have been automaticaly synced to my Windows Mobile device, running Windows Media Player 10 Mobile. (To enjoy on the road/in class/at lunch.) If I get an idea to record a show, I can head to MSN TV, pick a program, and have it allready on the hard drive when I get home.)

    In the mean time, on the other box, useally the parents are flipping between channels on the main TV, looking for news. Dad's on his extender in his room, and Mom's on the main Box. They both are actively recording television, and pausing/rewinding, etc. Then in the afternoon, Mom watches Dr. Phil, while recording Ellen. If she doesn't really care for Phil, she can swap over to Ellen while still recording Phil for later.

    At night, we all sit around the main TV, and pick out Movies using the Movie Guide. We can see just the upcoming movies on TV, with plot summaries, reviews, and cast details. Even record movies that are on in a week.

    Plus, we all have our series that we like recorded, and can access our recorded programs from any TV / computer in the house.

    It's quite a setup, and we wouldn't watch TV without it anymore.

    Why I want the 360, is because it is much easier than the clunky Disk-based xbox 1 Extender. As well, it supports more formats, and is the first 2.0 Extender. Plus, we plan to go HD soon, and since the 360 is the only HD-Based extender, then that's our only choice. (As I want to get that extra PC out of the living room.)
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    Re: Who's Tried the Xbox360?

    I ventued into the Wal-Mart a few blocks away when buying Quake4 to see if they had a 360, and they didn't at the time. They probably do now, but I can't stand going into Wal-Mart due to it's ghetto feel and the wish for a decontamination device when I step out. Nearby Target, though, I can confirm has squat.

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    Re: Who's Tried the Xbox360?

    I'll wait until Halo 3 comes out before I rush out to buy one.
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    Re: Who's Tried the Xbox360?

    Oy... not impressed.

    Graphically, not a very big leap at all.

    And the rest -- no reason to buy yet. Just like the PSP isn't very worth getting yet for only 1 or 2 games.

    I'd rather have Revolution or PS3. Xbox 360 will be sometime after those.
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    Re: Who's Tried the Xbox360?

    Quote Originally Posted by Monorail Man
    Right now, our entire Home Television experince is controlled by Media Center.

    Windows XP Media Center Edition allows you to consume media in the convience of a Ten-Foot UI, and allows you to time-shift television.

    The main dual-tuner MCE box is in the Living Room. It controls the main TV, and the Xbox 1 extender controls the TV in my father's room.

    My PC is another dual-tuner MCE box, that can grab recorded TV from any of the TVs, and pick my shows to record/whatever.

    So, let's take a look out our digital consuming household:

    First, before I wake-up in the morning, all night, my MCE box is recording all my favorite Adult Swim shows. Then at 10am, I record the Price Is Right. Before I leave the house for school/work, all those programs have been automaticaly synced to my Windows Mobile device, running Windows Media Player 10 Mobile. (To enjoy on the road/in class/at lunch.) If I get an idea to record a show, I can head to MSN TV, pick a program, and have it allready on the hard drive when I get home.)

    In the mean time, on the other box, useally the parents are flipping between channels on the main TV, looking for news. Dad's on his extender in his room, and Mom's on the main Box. They both are actively recording television, and pausing/rewinding, etc. Then in the afternoon, Mom watches Dr. Phil, while recording Ellen. If she doesn't really care for Phil, she can swap over to Ellen while still recording Phil for later.

    At night, we all sit around the main TV, and pick out Movies using the Movie Guide. We can see just the upcoming movies on TV, with plot summaries, reviews, and cast details. Even record movies that are on in a week.

    Plus, we all have our series that we like recorded, and can access our recorded programs from any TV / computer in the house.

    It's quite a setup, and we wouldn't watch TV without it anymore.

    Why I want the 360, is because it is much easier than the clunky Disk-based xbox 1 Extender. As well, it supports more formats, and is the first 2.0 Extender. Plus, we plan to go HD soon, and since the 360 is the only HD-Based extender, then that's our only choice. (As I want to get that extra PC out of the living room.)

    that's a pretty neat setup, years ago I once thought of trying something similar to that but my parants arn't that pro technology (my dad wouldn't care but he probably wouldn't use it too much and my mom would hate all the extra tech)

    kinda jealous that you'd setup something more complicated then me :P though so far I'm just getting used to actualy having cable again


    I suppose I can see how that might excite you about your home network and recording in HD

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    Re: Who's Tried the Xbox360?

    Quote Originally Posted by FrumiousBoojum
    Oy... not impressed.

    Graphically, not a very big leap at all.
    All the new systems are going to take awhile before there are really giant leaps in graphics. Developers were still fiding ways to exploit the Xbox when they started work on the 360.

    And the rest -- no reason to buy yet. Just like the PSP isn't very worth getting yet for only 1 or 2 games.
    lol, I guess you must only be into platformers and puzzlers!

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    Re: Who's Tried the Xbox360?

    Quote Originally Posted by Soulquarian
    lol, I guess you must only be into platformers and puzzlers!
    I'm into any good game... PSP doesn't have that yet. PSP is mostly made up of mostly movies right now -- Got a laptop and a Zen, so $250 isn't worth it for portable movies.

    PSP has too much of a large console in mind as well. Not really a good way of developing games when the PSP's battery life isn't matching the game length. DS is a much better developed system for portability.

    I'll eventually get a PSP, but like I said -- it's not worthy of purchase until it has more than 1 or 2 must-have games.

    I'm not really one to go fanboy over one console to the point of all other systems suck if it's not console X. It's about the games. But on my limited budget, a console must have more than 1 must-have games for it to be worth of purchase.

    And yes, I'll be a proud non-buyer of any of the Halo games. The first one had to be the most over-rated FPS ever -- Metroid Prime was so much better, but where was the "Best Game EVER!" declarations for that? No, didn't deserve it, but neither did Halo.
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    Re: Who's Tried the Xbox360?

    You are aware that it has more highly awarded games in different genres than the DS right? As for the battery life, the average game lasts about 7 hours. Battery life is a fanboy copout.

    I can think of a few of the best games already... Lumines, Burnout Legends, Ridge Racer, GTA:LCS, X-Men Legends II, SSX on Tour, Virtua Tennis World Tour, Madden NFL 06, NBA street...

    And Star Wars Battlefront II came out today? 1 or 2 games my butt! There isn't a quantity of games, but there are more quality ones, and more importantly, more varied game genres than the DS.

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    Re: Who's Tried the Xbox360?

    Quote Originally Posted by Soulquarian
    And Star Wars Battlefront II came out today? 1 or 2 games my butt! There isn't a quantity of games, but there are more quality ones, and more importantly, more varied game genres than the DS.
    As for that list of games, ok... so 3 games worth buying. I'll get it when the list grows to at least 5 games and decreases in price.

    Madden? Wouldn't buy it, but isn't that one plagued with some bugs so bad that people are petitioning for a recall of the game? (I'm not exactly one to be drawn to sports games for the most part...)

    More varied game genres?

    Off the top of my head, the DS has:

    RPG
    classic Point-and-Click Adventure
    classic text Adventure
    At least 3 music-based games
    Simulations
    Casino/parlour
    platformers
    Sports
    FPS
    Puzzles
    Arcade
    Strategy
    Reference applications
    Mini-Games
    Educational
    Racing
    Chat
    Other/Unclassifiable

    And I'm sure there's a few more genres...

    So, wouldn't exactly say that the PSP has more varied genres. DS has been out longer, therefore it would naturally have a larger variety of genres.

    Besides, in the meantime, all I really have to do to get good PS portability is get some tools and make me a portable PS1 out of some spare parts.

    But, like I said. It's not about console vs. console. It's about the games. Even the most flawed console would eventually be worth it for a really good game.
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    Re: Who's Tried the Xbox360?

    Quote Originally Posted by Soulquarian
    All the new systems are going to take awhile before there are really giant leaps in graphics. Developers were still fiding ways to exploit the Xbox when they started work on the 360.



    lol, I guess you must only be into platformers and puzzlers!
    I dissagree in a way

    while it's true we arn't seeing the graphics pushed to the max at all yet generaly we DO soe a jump of sorts

    there was a HUGE difference between gameplay in a PS1 title and what was on a PS2 title

    heck there was a huge difference between N64 and PS2 the graphics were clearer and the enviornments responded more instantly

    I'm not seeing to much of that just alot more small details

    of course this could be fitting with the higher requirement for development teams this time to truly tap a systems power

    I'm wondering if Xbox360 will end up being the middle child this time around

    PS3 will probably deliver much better and the Revolution will have the most unique titles I'm not sure what that leaves Xbox360 with except Halo/Perfect Dark and a few other titles

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    Re: Who's Tried the Xbox360?

    Quote Originally Posted by FrumiousBoojum
    RPG
    classic Point-and-Click Adventure
    classic text Adventure
    At least 3 music-based games
    Simulations
    Casino/parlour
    platformers
    Sports
    FPS
    Puzzles
    Arcade
    Strategy
    Reference applications
    Mini-Games
    Educational
    Racing
    Chat
    Other/Unclassifiable
    Of all those genres, what does it do well? Its top games are all puzzlers, mini-game style games, and platformers. Check IGN. The only games to score above a 7 have been in those genres I mentioned. Even G4 has said that the DS is not a well balanced gaming system.

    The DS has great titles, but to knock down another portable system that has more higher rated games in a variety of different genres simply because YOU don't like those genres, is fanboyish.

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