Toy Story Land - Your opinions please!

[nathan detroit]

jacoaster kindly posted the following link on another thread.
(from) DLP.info

It details what may (or may not) be what DLP is getting in WDS for Toy Story Land.

So what do we think?

[Ride Warrior]

Originally Posted by nathan detroit

jacoaster kindly posted the following link on another thread.

(from) DLP.info

It details what may (or may not) be what DLP is getting in WDS for Toy Story Land.

So what do we think?

Due to the economy, Al has said that Disney is putting it's investments in new attractions at WDI on hold. However, Al isn't always completely right. Plus, things change.

These additions to the Toy Story Mania area sound like a lot of bang for the buck. The rides each sound to be small in scale that should call for a realatively small amount of capital. The RC RACER coaster sounds like the most fun.

[PeaJay18]

The rides themselves seem to be of types you can find in many other parks, so Disney would be wise not to skimp on the themeing.

If it makes for a pleasant area of the park then I'm all for it.
(and while your at it WDI, please put in a table service restaurant - WDS needs more dining options.
Maybe transport Pizza Planet over from the main park and spruce it up a bit)

[nathan detroit]

Originally Posted by Ride Warrior

Due to the economy, Al has said that Disney is putting it's investments in new attractions at WDI on hold. However, Al isn't always completely right. Plus, things change.

Although the world's economy is in a bad state at the moment, this addition to WDS could not be better timed. The first two Toy Story movies are getting 3D re-releases later this year and Toy Story 3 is due to land towards the back-end of 2010. It's a no-brainer that DLP need to get moving on this project to cash-in to its full potential.

[k_peek_2000]

I small a TSMM Clone and lots of props from DSH.


This just in, Disney officially worse at naming things than Universal.

[nathan detroit]

Originally Posted by k_peek_2000

This just in, Disney officially worse at naming things than Universal.

Please remember that when it comes to DLP, the names of attractions generally need to be easy to understand to a multitude of language-speakers (hence Phantom Manor instead of The Haunted Mansion). 'Toy Story Land' may be a bland and obvious name but it is also a very clear indication of what to expect for one of the many non-English speaking visiters to the park.

[stitchon]

-facepalm-

At least Carsland can fit with the California Theme of DCA. Toy Story has nothing to do with the Studios.

I can overlook something like Midway Mania, which is sufficiently themed on the outside to fit the studios, but this has one big thumbs-down from me in terms of theme.

[davewasbaloo]

If it happens, I will lose all faith and willingness to spend money with the mouse

[nathan detroit]

Originally Posted by davewasbaloo

If it happens, I will lose all faith and willingness to spend money with the mouse

Why?

(I only ask because this forum severely needs a kick up the pants and we need some definate opinions to get the ball rolling!)

I personally think that although the theming sounds a little *ahem* 'extreme', WDS needs something so why not this? Since its part of Toon Studios its potential gaudiness should not be an issue and as for the heavy Pixar presence in the park - where would Disney be without Pixar these days?*

*However, I would welcome the presence of more real 'toons' in Toon Studios.

[stitchon]

It's Toon Studios, yet the real toons (Mickey, Donald, Goofy, Minnie, Pluto, Daisy, Chip, and Dale) aren't even present. Wouldn't a Midway Mania-style attraction themed to Mickey and friends fit better?

[davewasbaloo]

Hmmmm, where to start?

Theming? Out the window.

Cheap spinners (and sorry, I feel this way about A bugs land - DCA, Dinoland USA - DAK, and Mermaid Lagoon - TDS) have no place in a Disney park, especially when the halfpipe is likely to be seen from Frontierland.

Capacity wise, the waits will be painful.

I am sorry, but this shows Disney have lost it (bairing in mind ToT was in the original masterplan for the WDSP 10+ years ago).

I can ride fun fair rides at Gulliverland in Milton Keynes (themed too). No need to spend the time and more expensive Euros to go to DLP.

[stitchon]

Originally Posted by davewasbaloo

Hmmmm, where to start?

Theming? Out the window.

Cheap spinners (and sorry, I feel this way about A bugs land - DCA, Dinoland USA - DAK, and Mermaid Lagoon - TDS) have no place in a Disney park, especially when the halfpipe is likely to be seen from Frontierland.

Capacity wise, the waits will be painful.

I am sorry, but this shows Disney have lost it (bairing in mind ToT was in the original masterplan for the WDSP 10+ years ago).

I can ride fun fair rides at Gulliverland in Milton Keynes (themed too). No need to spend the time and more expensive Euros to go to DLP.

I completely agree.

The half-pipe idea is probably one of the worst ideas I've heard in a long time. There's no possible way you can properly theme one of those.

Is Disney giving up hope on WDSP? Something's telling me it's going to need a DCA-style makeover to repair all the muddled theming one day.

[pussnboots]

I'm going to go with the pessimists on this one.

I've said it before, but whenever Disney erects another spinning teacup ride to increase capacity, everyone always loves to point to Fantasyland, which, of course, was built under Walt Disney's reign and is thus untouchable. What they forget is that these rides only work because they make people think of quaint old 1950s Disney (the retro/vintage/camp/kitsch factor) and that their extremely careful positioning and themeing have a lot to do with it as well (the whimsical European backdrop provides an excellent excuse for old worldy funfair rides, the lush landscaping.)

Just wanted to shoot that argument down before it's thrown out there again, haha. And I see I'm mixing metaphors.

I haven't been there in person, but aside from that kiddie coaster with all the seaweed, Tokyo's Mermaid Lagoon looks rather splendid to me in its own little way. The rides may be bland, but the day they build an enormous underwater world at the Walt Disney Studios with a gift shop inside a whale is, in my opinion, a happy day.

No, it is of course a thousand times likelier that Toy Story Land will be more like Dinoland USA, Flik's Fun Fair, and the Flying Carpets ride at the Magic Kingdom. And oh yeah, it will be squeezed in between Hollywood Boulevard and the Disneyland Park (from which people will have glorious views of this stuff) and will face the big blank wall that is the backside of the Art of Disney Animation*! Oh, the potential this has. Blegh.

*And why is no one else bothered by this, by the way?

[nathan detroit]

Originally Posted by pussnboots

I'm going to go with the pessimists on this one.

I've said it before, but whenever Disney erects another spinning teacup ride to increase capacity, everyone always loves to point to Fantasyland, which, of course, was built under Walt Disney's reign and is thus untouchable. What they forget is that these rides only work because they make people think of quaint old 1950s Disney

Perhaps the adults Puss, but the vast majority of those people clamouring to board the Fantasyland rides can't even spell 'quaint' never mind know what it means (I refer of course to small children as opposed to complete morons).
As a fan of the toons and Pixar, I don't mind this coming as long as it avoids the incomplete theming that most of WDS is victim to.

[pussnboots]

Originally Posted by nathan detroit

Perhaps the adults Puss, but the vast majority of those people clamouring to board the Fantasyland rides can't even spell 'quaint' never mind know what it means (I refer of course to small children as opposed to complete morons).
As a fan of the toons and Pixar, I don't mind this coming as long as it avoids the incomplete theming that most of WDS is victim to.

Well, thankfully, children love lots of things. Otherwise they'd surely be insulted that Hollywood has the audacity to sell them that Spongebob Squarepants crap. They'd sue the cereal manufacturers for giving them artificially colored breakfasts with no nutritional value whatsoever. They'd realize that Cartoon Network has really gone downhill since the 1990s.

It's sort of like when you see a movie with someone who's baked (it's happened to all of us). They will have a good time whether you see Gigli or Brokeback Mountain or the back of their hand, they just enjoy being out and seeing all kinds of pretty colors. You however will care.

(This is all by way of saying that yes, these rides are for children, but think of the adults who still spend hours on forums like this, wasting away their lives while telling themselves that discussing Disney theme parks is a valid and worthy pastime, haha. Surely they deserve a little something too.)