New flagpoles at the promenade...

Fantillusion · 03-10-2007, 02:09 PM

Have a look...

I don't know if I really like them. They don't really suit the promenade. One if the French flag, another is a European one and the middle one is the "Disneyland Resort Paris 15" one.

From www.dlrp.fr

DeadlyAvenger · 03-10-2007, 02:25 PM

Hmmm... plain white poles in dug out bunkers in the grass. Not particularly magic are they?

pussnboots · 03-10-2007, 02:30 PM

I don't like them at all. After all those problems Euro Disney had with clashing cultures, you'd think they'd have learned to avoid any signs of nationalism. If anything, you should feel like you're entering some geographic warp at any Disney destination, leaving reality and entering... Whatever it says on that sign. And in the early '90s they did in fact remove such overtly nationalistic symbols as the American flags on Main Street (well, the majority of them)... It's just a touchy subject.

But now in a single week all the American flags have returned and a French flag has risen in the very spot that first catches your eye as you enter the esplanade.

I'm probably being a little dramatic, but unnecessary patriotism is just one of those things that makes my stomach churn a little. Like people who enter fine restaurants in brightly colored polyester or Kimora Simmons.

Fantillusion · 03-10-2007, 02:58 PM

Also, is it just me or does the DLP promenade look a bit stale from that picture. I also think that the DLP promenade should be done like the HKDL one but as if that would ever happen..

Speedway · 03-10-2007, 03:08 PM

Slightly off-topic but it annoys the hell out of me when I see the European flag placed with the national flag on all government buildings, let alone a friggin' theme park. Yes, European countries are joined in this silly economic bond, but it is not the United States of Europe.

Fantillusion · 03-10-2007, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedway

Slightly off-topic but it annoys the hell out of me when I see the European flag placed with the national flag on all government buildings, let alone a friggin' theme park. Yes, European countries are joined in this silly economic bond, but it is not the United States of Europe.

Agree 100%. Sadly many people I have met from around the world (mainly Americans actually) do seem to think Europe is one big country.

soundtracker · 03-11-2007, 04:22 AM

Some of them also seem to think that Wales is a village outside London where Princess Diana used to live. What can you do, eh?

As for the flagpoles, I've got no real problem with them. I'm sure the turf surrounding them will be repaired in the not-too-distant future, and the presence of a French flag alongside a European one doesn't bother me at all. It's not as if there are any great nationalistic statements inside the theme parks, after all.

(Incidentally, I'd much prefer this to the map of the United States that the Imagineers snuck into the plasterwork of the Arabian Harbour section of Tokyo Disney Sea. That struck me as quite unnecessary.)

Fantillusion · 03-11-2007, 05:09 AM

They could have painted them green...

jortlaban · 03-11-2007, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Speedway

Slightly off-topic but it annoys the hell out of me when I see the European flag placed with the national flag on all government buildings, let alone a friggin' theme park. Yes, European countries are joined in this silly economic bond, but it is not the United States of Europe.

technically europe has been the united states of europe (known as: European Union, which basicly is the same thing) for a while now (at least 10 years I think)... and it's only the United Kingdom that doesn't want to fit in with the rest... the joined economic bond was formed about 60 years ago and they moved on the the next level 20 years ago, making one big europe without borders.
We have one European government and one currency, so I don't see any problem with the flags that DLRP is in, namely Europe and France...

I like the flags, but they're clearly not finished with the posts.

Fantillusion · 03-11-2007, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jortlaban

and it's only england that doesn't want to fit in with the rest....

Excuse me, but don't you mean the United Kingdom, or Great Britain which includes England and Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland. It's all Goverened by the same Parliament.

Us British don't like it when people refer to Britain as England.

pussnboots · 03-11-2007, 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jortlaban

technically europe has been the united states of europe (known as: European Union, which basicly is the same thing) for a while now (at least 10 years I think)... and it's only england that doesn't want to fit in with the rest... the joined economic bond was formed about 60 years ago and they moved on the the next level 20 years ago, making one big europe without borders.
We have one Euopean government and one currency, so I don't see any problem with the flags that DLRP is in, namely Europe and France...

Oy, enough already with the Euro-masturbation. Can't we leave this hoohaw at the UN and out of Disneyland? And do you have to turn every thread into a social/political issue?

TDLFAN · 03-11-2007, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedway

Slightly off-topic but it annoys the hell out of me when I see the European flag placed with the national flag on all government buildings, let alone a friggin' theme park. Yes, European countries are joined in this silly economic bond, but it is not the United States of Europe.

No, but they should make the UK the 51st United State since Blair shares bed with Bush!

jortlaban · 03-11-2007, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Fantillusion

Us British don't like it when people refer to Britain as England.

sorry to insult you... I hate it to when people say I come from Holland... instead of the Netherlands :S

and as for making a thread political, that happens automaticaly when british start to share more than just their oppinion about a simple flag that has been the symbol for a community they have been part of for a very long time.

Fantillusion · 03-11-2007, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jortlaban

sorry to insult you... I hate it to when people say I come from Holland... instead of the Netherlands

Then why does it say you come from Holland beneath you username?

Fantillusion · 03-11-2007, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by TDLFAN

No, but they should make the UK the 51st United State since Blair shares bed with Bush!

No, Blair will retire in May. (I dont know if they tell you that in the US).

03-10-2007, 02:09 PM	#1
Fantillusion Hello! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Posts: 168	New flagpoles at the promenade... Have a look... I don't know if I really like them. They don't really suit the promenade. One if the French flag, another is a European one and the middle one is the "Disneyland Resort Paris 15" one. From www.dlrp.fr __________________ CELEBRATE DISNEYLAND PARIS' 15TH

03-10-2007, 02:25 PM	#2
DeadlyAvenger Lordofthemightybeasts Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Scotland Posts: 66	Re: New flagpoles at the promenade... Hmmm... plain white poles in dug out bunkers in the grass. Not particularly magic are they?

03-10-2007, 02:30 PM	#3
pussnboots is satisfactual. Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Uncanny Valley Posts: 2,124	Re: New flagpoles at the promenade... I don't like them at all. After all those problems Euro Disney had with clashing cultures, you'd think they'd have learned to avoid any signs of nationalism. If anything, you should feel like you're entering some geographic warp at any Disney destination, leaving reality and entering... Whatever it says on that sign. And in the early '90s they did in fact remove such overtly nationalistic symbols as the American flags on Main Street (well, the majority of them)... It's just a touchy subject. But now in a single week all the American flags have returned and a French flag has risen in the very spot that first catches your eye as you enter the esplanade. I'm probably being a little dramatic, but unnecessary patriotism is just one of those things that makes my stomach churn a little. Like people who enter fine restaurants in brightly colored polyester or Kimora Simmons.

03-10-2007, 02:58 PM	#4
Fantillusion Hello! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Posts: 168	Re: New flagpoles at the promenade... Also, is it just me or does the DLP promenade look a bit stale from that picture. I also think that the DLP promenade should be done like the HKDL one but as if that would ever happen.. __________________ CELEBRATE DISNEYLAND PARIS' 15TH

03-10-2007, 03:08 PM	#5
Speedway On and on the beat goes.. Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: En-ger-land. Posts: 4,673	Re: New flagpoles at the promenade... Slightly off-topic but it annoys the hell out of me when I see the European flag placed with the national flag on all government buildings, let alone a friggin' theme park. Yes, European countries are joined in this silly economic bond, but it is not the United States of Europe. __________________ Shiny and New (VERY OLD!) TRIP REPORTS Margaret Kerry (Tinker Bell) 10th June 2006 Alton Towers 12th June 2006 Mini MC Meet, Stratford-upon-Avon 4th July 2006 Walt Disney World Resort 12th - 26th October 2006 New York City 31st March - 6th April 2007

03-11-2007, 04:22 AM	#7
soundtracker Rock The World Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 709	Re: New flagpoles at the promenade... Some of them also seem to think that Wales is a village outside London where Princess Diana used to live. What can you do, eh? As for the flagpoles, I've got no real problem with them. I'm sure the turf surrounding them will be repaired in the not-too-distant future, and the presence of a French flag alongside a European one doesn't bother me at all. It's not as if there are any great nationalistic statements inside the theme parks, after all. (Incidentally, I'd much prefer this to the map of the United States that the Imagineers snuck into the plasterwork of the Arabian Harbour section of Tokyo Disney Sea. That struck me as quite unnecessary.)

03-11-2007, 05:09 AM	#8
Fantillusion Hello! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Posts: 168	Re: New flagpoles at the promenade... They could have painted them green... __________________ CELEBRATE DISNEYLAND PARIS' 15TH

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