and of course - agreed with Steve hahaha.
This might be the adjective, but reason for debate can be found under verb, and noun...
1 a: having life
b: active, functioning <living languages>
2 a: exhibiting the life or motion of nature : natural <the wilderness is a living museum…of natural history — NEA Journal>
b: 2 live 2a
3 a: full of life or vigor
b: true to life : vivid <televised in living color>
c: suited for living <the living area>
4: involving living persons
5: very —used as an intensive <scared the living daylights out of me>
I'd say five out of five would make it a "living thing."
I would also like to point out that one can celebrate their birthday on any day... I just went to a birthday party this past weekend in celebration of a friend who's brithday was the month before...Quote:
July 17, 1955: Grand opening of Disneyland. July 18 is the grand opening for the general public.
July 18, 1960: Disneyland celebrates its 5th Birthday on July 18 with a 5-foot-tall Birthday Cake.
July 17, 1965: Disneyland presents the "Tencennial Re-Dedication Day" featuring the "Disneyland Tencennial Celebration Parade."
Not to mention on July 17th Disneyland had 28,154 in attendance, and another 90 million watched on ABC as Walt dedicated is dream to his Guests:
"To all that come to this happy place: welcome. Disneyland is your land. Here age relives fond memories of the past, and here youth may savor the challenge and promise of the future. Disneyland is dedicated to the ideals, the dreams, and the hard facts that have created America... with hope that it will be a source of joy and inspiration to all the world." ~Walt Disney
Having said that, on this day of July 17th I wish you Disneyland, a very Happy Birthday! =)
Okay, so, the article says, "July 17, 1955: Grand opening of Disneyland."
That was good enough for me! July 17 it is! :) People were there on July 17, Walt gave his speech that day. To me....this makes July 17 THE day!
I think DisneyMouse is right here... Disneyland is a living entity. It may not be flesh and blood but it certainly has a life and motion all it's own, growing and evolving with time. It may have been just a collection of buildings and such while it was being built... but on the 17th of July 53 years ago, Walt Disney himself breathed life into it with one of the most touching dedication speeches ever.
anyhow, I am looking forward to the celebration tomorrow on a friday yay. lol.
I always wanted two birthdays... It means twice the presents and cake!
DLR Cast Exclusive Pin Released
Disneyland® park 53rd Anniversary
Edition Size: 500
That's a cool looking pin! Thanks for sharing that (and welcome).
Since there is a conspicuous lack of Darkbeer, and no one seems willing to defend his position, I'll take a turn.
The public DL did not exist until the 18th. If we are celebrating the incarnation of DL that we all know and love, we should use the 18th. If what we are commemorating is the first of many large DL Private Parties, we should continue to celebrate the 17th.
Or maybe the day physical construction began?Quote:
Could we not also consider Disneyland's 1954 groundbreaking to be the anniversary of the Park--when it crossed the threshold from concept to reality?
Or the day the deed for the property was finalized? Or the day Disney first thought of such a notion? Or maybe Walt's birthday itself?
To compare these arbitrary dates to Darkbeer's arguably valid date (a date THAT DISNEY THEMSELVES RECOGNIZED for many years) is unreasonably dismissive of his point, IMO.
From what I have read, DL had already been used for the first time BEFORE the 17th. Already in use before a christening or dedication? Not much of a christening, IMO.Quote:
In my personal opinion, the date of the Park's "christening" might logically be assumed to be the anniversary date (while "christen" is a term generally defined as the Christan ceremony of bestowing a name on a baby, it can also be used secularly, as in "To name; To name and dedicate ceremonially; or To use for the first time (emphasis mine).
True, its prior use was for invitation only, but so was the 17th. Why is the standard here being applied differently? The real public had access to DL only on the 18th. Not before. It was a red carpet premiere--which happens BEFORE public release in most cases--sometimes a full day before.
The public opening of DL on the 17th was anything but public. Call it the 17th or 18th, I suppose it makes little difference to most, but the DL I can walk up to and gain admission to without prior invitation was born on the 18th. I think this is Darkbeer's point, and a relatively sound position to defend.Quote:
This seems to me a far more logical anniversary date for a collection of inanimate objects and buildings that had been assembled in one place, rather than the specious reasoning that "on July 18th, guests without formal invitations were admitted to the property."
Already attempted above^^.Quote:
Which begs the question: Do you believe that Disneyland only "became" after the general public set foot within the Berm? Please defend this point, if you can.
And yet you are using the same aforementioned PR machine's DL opening day program as evidence that DL true anniversary is on the 17th. You justify your argument by citing this as the date the PR machine kicked into high gear promoting a Park not yet open to the general paying public.Quote:
It's certainly no skin off my nose which date anyone prefers to use. I would ask you, David, however, to back up your assertions logically--i.e., not necessarily relying on Disney PR (which, as you no doubt realize, has a shady record for keeping track of its own history).