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    Re: My worst fear as a godmother...

    My daughter's first trip was in her first couple of months. No, she doesn't remember the day, but she had a great time. It was family bonding time. She even made Donald talk.

    She was never afraid of the characters until she started to understand the stories. Then the bad guys scared her. She was afraid of the Beast until I reminded her that he turned out to be good at the end of the story. My son was never scared of any of them.

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    If this is your worst fear as a godmother..............then you are lucky! My goddaughter is turning 16 this month and myself and her parents have taken her to many places since she 2. Although she may not remember the Zoo or Disneyland, just being there for her expressions of innocense at her 1st parade and fireworks show is timeless.........I still feel like it was yesterday.

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    Re: My worst fear as a godmother...

    Quote Originally Posted by sorceress1986
    My goddaughter, who is not even two yet, is going to Disneyland for her birthday. When my aunt and uncle adopted her, it was agreed that she would not go until she was three. Then, a few months ago, she fell in love with Minnie, and we figured, "Well, 3 years old should be okay." Now I hear my uncle, her father is going to take her for her 2nd birthday next month. My aunt, who knows how I feel about this, said, "But we're only gonna take her to Fantasyland and Toontown..." Here is my problem:

    1. She is entirely too young, that simple. I (though biased, but not the only person who thinks so) agree that for her age and previous circumstances (she's adopted from China, just so you know, lots going on there), but she is not at all ready for such a censory overload. (I know I'm asking for it with this, but this is how I feel)
    2. "it's only fantasyland and toontown"???? Isn't that the bulk of it the first time you go as a kid???
    3. She has not even seen Disney movies very much. It's taken her a while to get into 2-D animation, so in that, she's a little behind (Not my fault, I swear). The only Disney movie (full-length animated feature, not just DVD compilations, etc.) she has seen was half of Dumbo and that was with me!!!

    Sorry, I just had to vent where I thought appropriate...

    Ok, this is just going to be IMHO, but here goes: I teach Special Education in a K-8th grade school and am finishing up my Master's Degree in Special Ed with emphasis on Child Psych and Brain Research. Hopefully I can put a few fears to rest from the research that I have encountered.

    Actually, you don't have to worry about Sensory Overload, unless she is diagnosed with a Sensory Disorder (ADHD, Asperger's, Austism, etc.) In fact, up until 5 years old, the brain is learning and creating new neuron pathways...so in reality, the stimulation she gets there from the colors, sights, sounds, smells, and excitement will actually be extremely benefical in helping her make new physiological connections. Highly Highly recommended. Keeping healthy kids from getting "Sensory Overload" actually is demental to them as it prohibits brain growth. So let her go, touch, feel, play, etc. It is actually needed by the child to help them develop physically and mentally.

    You stated that she was adopted from China. "Lots going on there" How old was she when she was adopted? Does she suffer from any kind of Attachment Disorder? Are there abuse and or neglect issues? These kind of trips are extremely good for bonding and creating close family attachments. Also, as for the memories..you would be amazed at the memories. I was only 6 months old when my parents took me to Disneyland for the first time..and do have bits of memory of that..but as a result of the first trip, and consequent ones, Disneyland has always had the feeling of safety and family love and bonding for me. In fact, it may interest people to know that they are discovering now that almost 1/4th (yes this many) of the population actually have some memory of their own birth process. Amazing..so don't discount what these little one's can remember later on. However, if there was trauma while in China..then hopefully she is in a theraputic situation to help her and her family deal with it. And no, age two is not too young for intervention. Not by any means.

    And as for Fantasy Land and Toontown...perfect place to stimulate that neuron growth and to just plain have fun.

    And regarding her not seeing much in the way of Disney movies. Don't even worry about it. She will have a great time just being around the colors, characters, and excitement of the place with a family who loves her.

    Hope this helps ease your mind from a Professional point of view. IMHO
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    Re: My worst fear as a godmother...

    Hw dare anyone take their kids to DLR! Kids don't belong there at all! Only adults should go there! Teenagers should only be allowed in special cases, and strollers should be banned!

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    Re: My worst fear as a godmother...

    I would have to say to trust the parents judgement, unless there are issues going on that might cause her to get scared, but still its up to the parents. Walt wanted Disneyland to be a place for the family and that includes children of all ages. Not everyone will agree on this issue but I think going to Disneyland is a great way to spend time with your children, no matter the age!!

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    Re: My worst fear as a godmother...

    I have to echo the "if this is your worst fear....." sentiment. I'm sure that her parents know what she can and cannot handle and they are just looking forward to bonding and making memories with their daughter.

    I've taken both of my boys since they were 18 mths & 12 mths respectively and they both did fine during the 2 year old age range. My youngest who was severly speech delayed at the age along with impulse control issues always did AMAZING at the park. He was just in awe so much and soaking up everything and all smiles. One of my favorite memories was him at that age coming back from a trip with in the neighborhood of 5 new words, after a 4 day trip. To a kid with speech issues as bad as his this was HUGE. They both reacted differently, two totally different kids. Whereas my youngest could ride POTC, ISAW & Peter Pan alllll day, my oldest loved HM, the Jungle Cruise & the Tiki Room. They both loved the train and the monorail too.

    Neither one of my boys have memories of being at the parks at 12 months, 18 months or 2 years old but I do and I wouldn't trade those memories for anything in the world.



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    First off, let me just say that I feel that Disneyland is no place for a very young child (less than four years old, give or take). Appropriate places to take them would be the playground at your local park, or maybe a petting zoo. Regardless of how cute you think Mickey & Minnie may be, to a toddler they're some unidentifiable monster four times their own size. Disneyland is loud, confusing, and frequently frightening to very young children.

    That being said....

    Quote Originally Posted by sorceress1986
    My goddaughter, who is not even two yet, is going to Disneyland for her birthday. When my aunt and uncle adopted her, it was agreed that she would not go until she was three. Then, a few months ago, she fell in love with Minnie, and we figured, "Well, 3 years old should be okay." Now I hear my uncle, her father is going to take her for her 2nd birthday next month. My aunt, who knows how I feel about this, said, "But we're only gonna take her to Fantasyland and Toontown..." Here is my problem:

    1. She is entirely too young, that simple. I (though biased, but not the only person who thinks so) agree that for her age and previous circumstances (she's adopted from China, just so you know, lots going on there), but she is not at all ready for such a censory overload. (I know I'm asking for it with this, but this is how I feel)
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    Huh?? It was agreed that she would not go until she was three?? Who agreed? Even with your honary title of Godmother, you have no say whatsoever in how this child is raised. You are not the childs parent, like it or not.

    And what are these "previous circumstances" you mention? The fact that the child was born in China? That might affect the childs biological parents, but it certainly won't have any affect on a child that will *never* have any memory of that country.
    'I guess those poor people in China wouldn't be able to handle all the "censory" overload we have here in the U.S.'
    Sorry, but you come off as a bigot.

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    Re: My worst fear as a godmother...

    Quote Originally Posted by dsnylndmom
    I My youngest who was severly speech delayed at the age along with impulse control issues always did AMAZING at the park. He was just in awe so much and soaking up everything and all smiles. One of my favorite memories was him at that age coming back from a trip with in the neighborhood of 5 new words, after a 4 day trip. To a kid with speech issues as bad as his this was HUGE. .
    Trust me, I totally understand what a HUGE accomplishment that was for him! Congratulations!!! That just made my day!

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    Re: My worst fear as a godmother...

    OK, my two cents:

    First of all, I always get upset at selfish people who forget that having a kid means the kid comes first... FIRST. If you want to go to Disneyland and not be bothered with a kid, then either don't have one, put him/her up for adoption, or get a sitter. Period. If you've got a kid then you are a parent. Deal with it. And be thankful for it.

    Second, the idea that its pointless to take a very young child to Disneyland because they won't remember it?!??? I'm sorry... (no I'm not)... but if you truly believe this then go back and read my first point. And put your kid up for adoption, fast! Why bother reading to them, or giving them toys, or even talking to them? They won't remember it anyway! I sincerely hope that post #33 above made a difference to all those who have this belief.

    Nurture your kids. And, surprise; that can be done very well at Disneyland, even if it means you might have to sacrifice some of your own desires. Your little kids will only be little kids for a very short time. Is that worth being grouchy and resentful just because you can't ride Indiana Jones that particular day?

    The only reasons a small child shouldn't be at the park is if the child is sick, tired, or has special issues that cause him to be disruptive or harmful to himself or others, in which case it is again the parents responsibility to remove their family members from the park and care for them appropriately.

    Come on people, don't put Space Mountain over your family.

    And to the original poster: relax, it is the parents decision alone. And the benefits of this day will in all likelihood far, far outweigh your own fears and doubts. Let this blessed family enjoy their time together; encourage them, and be happy for them.

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    Re: My worst fear as a godmother...

    My 7 yr old neice had her first trip at Disneyland when she was 2 months old. She "met" one of the train guys when they rededicated the DRR. (I forget who it was). She doesn't remember meeting him, but because she loves trains she looks at that picture fondly and says "I went and met that nice man when I was just a baby"

    My neices LOVE Disneyland and the 3 yr old (who was 2 at the time of her last visit) could harldy wait to get into the park last time they went. She even stood up at the gate with Grandpa saying "Is it time to go in yet Grandpa?" (They were waiting for Mom and dad to move up in the line).

    She may not remember but hey Disneyland is about kids and their imagination. I'd gladly go to the park with a 2 yr old over a grumpy adult anyday
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    I don't think the original poster's issue is with small kids being taken to Disneyland. I think that in this case, there are special circumstances.

    AlohaStitch - Trying to avoid sensory overload may be detrimental, but come on. A 2 year old with SID at Disneyland has the potential to be very miserable because of all of the stimulation. Also, with your background, you have to know that kids with sensory issues are very easily frightened by things like crowds and large noises. Things that we'd normally take for granted or not think about. Of course, you also know, I'm sure that a kid with sensory issues could also go in the opposite direction and be *really* enthusiastic and happy about being someplace as stimulating as DL. But IMO, for a child this young, the risks outweigh the benefits. There are much better ways to introduce a child to sensory stimulation.

    dsnylndmom - That's awesome about your son! You must have been so proud! How old is he now?

    h_lehmenn - The OP's comment wasn't bigoted at all. She wasn't saying that people from China can't handle the censory overload of Disneyland. She was giving a little bit of relevant background information about her goddaughter. It has nothing to do with race. Please understand that this 2 year old child was born in one country, most likely raised in some kind of orphanage, and then adopted, taken from the only caregivers that she'd ever known, and moved in with her new family. Things like this take time to adjust to, especially for small children. Situations like this require special attention to make sure that everything works out smoothly. It's not bad or abnormal, there's just an adjustment period, that's all. It wasn't bigoted, it was relevant information.

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    Re: My worst fear as a godmother...

    Quote Originally Posted by h_lehmann
    Regardless of how cute you think Mickey & Minnie may be, to a toddler they're some unidentifiable monster four times their own
    This is not the case with all children. As I have said before, my kid's both loved the "good" characters. However, I always let them take the lead. I hate when parents force kids to visit with the characters when they are odiously scared. Watching bad parents with their kids is the worst part about Disneyland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Star
    AlohaStitch - Trying to avoid sensory overload may be detrimental, but come on. A 2 year old with SID at Disneyland has the potential to be very miserable because of all of the stimulation. Also, with your background, you have to know that kids with sensory issues are very easily frightened by things like crowds and large noises. Things that we'd normally take for granted or not think about. Of course, you also know, I'm sure that a kid with sensory issues could also go in the opposite direction and be *really* enthusiastic and happy about being someplace as stimulating as DL. But IMO, for a child this young, the risks outweigh the benefits. There are much better ways to introduce a child to sensory stimulation.

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    LIttle Star.. that issue was addressed in my post. I stated that if a child has Sensory Issues or Deficiencies such as (and used the examples ADHD- which by the way I have severly - Aspbergers or Autism) that then the parent needs to reconsider. You may have missed the statement that in HEALTHY (I really detest the word "Normal",) kids this stimulation is perfectly healthy and beneficial. I also addressed the fact that there are other considerations regarding being adopted from China...such as abuse, neglect or even sever physical aliments such as AIDS. However, some orphanages are exceptionally giving, caring and nuturing. My Sister works in Triage in Youth Mental Health, and deals with not only our state-side born kids, but adoptees from all over the world. Being born in another country (even an underprivledged one..which does not include all of China) does not automatically condemn a child to a horrific transition period. Kids are actually surprisingly resilliant (sp)...I appreciate your concern and input..but I think you might have skimmed over my post and missed some of what was being said.

    And by the way.. I do work with everything from Learning Disabilities to Sever Emotionallly Disturbed to Asbergers and Austistism. And having ADHD myself.. I am very aware of SI issues. LOL My three little guys who have the above last two SI issues (1 - 3rd grade) have been going to Disneyland since they could all toddle and LOVE it. One has a small bit of difficulty with the costume characters up close, but he just has to watch and wave at them from a distance. Stitch is our classroom mascot (and a few of my kids have never seen ANY Disneyfilm but still can identify with him..He is our Behavior Modification model and litterally stole Lilo's drawing of him for Anger Management). Anyways.. these kids do great at DL..course they have awsome parents who can read them like a book. I actually called one of my Mom's about this after reading it last night. She has the most sever SI challenged son - can't handle dirt or water on him, clothing issues, etc.. and her advice was "Oh man, that place has been a god-send to him.. tell them I said Take her ..Take her ... Take her...

    So that passed on from one who has even more experience in the ""Mom of a SI kid" than I do. LOL

    But anyways...yes, those issues were addressed.. Thanks for asking

    (Edit: I realized that I spelled Aspberger's wrong earlier..don't flame me for...Hey ADHD and 12 hour days do take their toll! LOL) Have a good one everybody

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    I don't see anything wrong with bringing a child of any age to Disney. my niece at 14 months and nephew at 3 yrs old both went to both Disney World and Disneyland, and loved it. Will they remember when they are older, no. But there are pictures . But it is not about them remembering, but the time they shared with family. What a great expeirience Disney World was with them They both enjoyed it. Sensory overload- no way! My sister knows how much her children can take. We left midway and ate dinner out of Disney for a "break" and returned later for fireworks and such. Disney wa a great way to nurture their imagination.
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