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Old 08-16-2008, 12:13 PM   #61
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These would force them to have wider queues, wider track layouts and more accesible emergency points. Notice how much wider the new darrides are. The older darkrides had scenery that almost touched the ride vehicles now they are set back quite a bit. One new darkride in California would most likely take up the room of two that exist now. taking out Toad to replace it with something completely new would require a lot more room.
Ugh, this is even more reason to just leave them as is. Snow White and Pinocchio are classics, an expansion of Snow White would be nice but it's still fine. I love those rides because the scenery practically reaches out and touches you, that's what makes them great and new dark rides like Pooh so lacking.
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Opening Vault 28-style merch in Disneyland itself? Bad idea. Disney doesn't need to be in the build-a-whore business. It's bad enough there's a Libby Lu in DTD.
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Mr. Toad may have historical significance, but that doesn't mean it's important to guests. Pinocchio is newer, and has better effects, so it's unlikely that it would be canned. Of all the dark rides, it's the least revered and the least relevant of the bunch. Since it seems the mentality for attractions nowadays is "If we can't sell plush, we can't sell the ride", Mr. Toad would likely be the first choice for removal should they need space for an attraction in Fantasyland. Providing they use up the Motor Boat Cruise land and Skyway area for something more than decor, of course.
But it also has smaller lines and attendance unlike toad which sees the second most visitors to Peter Pan and that is obvious every day!

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But it also has smaller lines and attendance unlike toad which sees the second most visitors to Peter Pan and that is obvious every day!

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Actually, the 4 or 5 times I've been this Summer, Pinocchio and Snow White have both had lines. Pinocchio has had a full queue, out the door, even. Snow White hasn't had a full queue, but has utilized a a switchback or two, and out the door, into the walkway.

I was surprised, too.
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Ohhh... don't pick on poor Mr. Toad. It is quite popular with the teenagers, and it's also the only Disneyland ride that takes you through scenic hell! I do think it could use a touch up or two (I really hate the cardboard cutouts for scenes and characters), but it certantly doesn't deserve to be replaced. Particularly since it might inspire some of the younger Disney-goers to watch the Adventures of Icabod and Mr. Toad (Idealist).

The ride that should really be replaced with something else is Winnie the Pooh . It has a grand total of three good effects (at most) and is a blatant attempt to shuffle Pooh Push your way. Not only that but it has more of those awful cardboard cutouts that I thought that Disney would have had the mind to ditch in Mr. Toad !!!!

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Well, that's one thing we all can aggree on, right? Winnie the Pooh, out, something (anything) else in, hm? I know! They could put in a Robin Hood dark ride! They be critters! Huh? Anyone? Robin Hood?
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I agree that Pooh should go, but it isn't likely to happen anytime soon. I also think that Robbin Hood would feel even more thematically out of place then Pooh, so I'm not sure that's the solution.This is my 1000th post too, pretty cool.
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Not only that but it has more of those awful cardboard cutouts that I thought that Disney would have had the mind to ditch in Mr. Toad !!!!
I always thought Pooh was quite three dimensional. I've never noticed that many cardboard cut-outs in there. But don't get me wrong, I still miss the Country Bears!

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I heard a rumor that the French Market was going to have a remodelling in September, and that it would be closed for most of that month. Has anyone heard anything else? I don't think they're going to change the menu (again), I just heard they were going to be doing work on the building and eating area.
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I heard a rumor that the French Market was going to have a remodelling in September, and that it would be closed for most of that month. Has anyone heard anything else? I don't think they're going to change the menu (again), I just heard they were going to be doing work on the building and eating area.
Yeah, supposedly their going to change the way the line works and the locatin of some things to make it operate more efficiently. I also think the plan is for the menu to remain the same.
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Ohhh... don't pick on poor Mr. Toad. It is quite popular with the teenagers, and it's also the only Disneyland ride that takes you through scenic hell! I do think it could use a touch up or two (I really hate the cardboard cutouts for scenes and characters), but it certantly doesn't deserve to be replaced. Particularly since it might inspire some of the younger Disney-goers to watch the Adventures of Icabod and Mr. Toad (Idealist).

The ride that should really be replaced with something else is Winnie the Pooh . It has a grand total of three good effects (at most) and is a blatant attempt to shuffle Pooh Push your way. Not only that but it has more of those awful cardboard cutouts that I thought that Disney would have had the mind to ditch in Mr. Toad !!!!

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Well, that's one thing we all can aggree on, right? Winnie the Pooh, out, something (anything) else in, hm? I know! They could put in a Robin Hood dark ride! They be critters! Huh? Anyone? Robin Hood?
Yeah the Characters in Robin Hood are animals. That should make a great ride.
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I heard a rumor that the French Market was going to have a remodelling in September, and that it would be closed for most of that month. Has anyone heard anything else? I don't think they're going to change the menu (again), I just heard they were going to be doing work on the building and eating area.
Yup. It will be closed September 2nd to the 19th I believe.
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Makes sense. I've heard they were going to be redoing the awning, so it doesn't look "circusy," and they were going to redo the tile. They're also going to change the beverage station, I believe and put a CM in charge of beverages. And they're changing the salad station around. That's all I've heard.
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Updated some dates and info as per the new Refurbishment Schedule timeline found in the MousePlanet 8/18 Disneyland Resort Update.
New Century Timepieces conversion to "Fortuosity Shoppe"
Details: Watch/clock shop to be re-themed and re-stocked with merchandise similar to the offerings at Disney Vault 28 in Downtown Disney.
Project Status: In progress.
Open Date: Early October 2008

The Harbour Galley - New menu
Details: Dining location closes to remove McDonald's theming and to receive new menu.
Project Status: To begin September 2.
Open Date: September 27.

French Market guest flow
Details: French Market buffeteria service counter will be changed to improve guest flow.
Project Status: First phase to begin September 2.
Open Date: September 19.

New Orleans Square repaving
Details: Slurry in New Orleans Square extending from New Orleans Square Train Station to Haunted Mansion gates will be removed and replaced with themed paving. Project to be completed in several phases.
Project Status: First phase to begin September 2 with New Orleans Railroad Station and Haunted Mansion.
Open Date: Haunted Mansion area done by September 26, Railroad station done by October 16.

Conestoga Fries - New menu
Details: Dining location closes to remove McDonald's theming and to receive new menu.
Project Status: To begin September 2.
Open Date: September 27.

Ariel's Grotto / Pixie Hollow re-theme
Details: Ariel's Grotto and Triton Gardens on the border of Fantasyland and Tomorrowland being re-themed to Pixie Hollow with Tinkerbell and friends
Project Status: In progress.
Open Date: Late 2008.
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Slurry in New Orleans Square extending from New Orleans Square Train Station to Haunted Mansion gates will be removed and replaced with themed paving. Project to be completed in several phases.
I've seen the term "slurry" used several times on these boards recently to refer to concrete or asphalt paving. I always thought slurry was a thick liquid mixture that became concrete/asphalt after it dried. I've looked it up in dictionaries and wikipedia and it's always described as being in liquid form.

Is slurry the correct term for the non-themed paving material at Disneyland?
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I think that no Disney film deserves a dark ride more than Bambi. It would fit perfectly in Critter Country alongside Splash Mountain.
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