I know it's a little late to butt into the thread, but I've only been to Disneyland once, and when I saw those fish, they actually did bother me a little. Not because I am a doomsday prophecisor, thinking Disney is going to pot, but really expect everything at Disney to be spotless and perfect. I know it's a lot to ask, but it's the reputation Disney has, and has had for me ever since I was little. Since most things in Disney are perfect and spotless, something like this really sticks out to me as bad show.
maybe they should go back to being closed twice a week to ensure the park is spotless...maybe they should cut back hours of operation to have more time to clean.
yes, DL used to be spotless, but they also used to have a lot more time to keep it that way.
Thanks TechSkip for pointing out the issues with the Grotto.
It is because of people such as yourself a former CM who loves Disneyland and cares about the "Little things" that together add up to make the show so special. Hopefully someone with real "Authority" on the "Show" will see these images and place it on the "To Do list" of repair items.
There are two groups and perhaps more on MiceChat, the DisneyFans that to them Disney can never do any wrong (generally the people that live far far away and Disneyland and Disneyworld visit is a rare occurance. So pointing out bad show, sorta ruins the vibe. I can understand that.
Then there are those who live close to either park and have the privelage of experiencing the park frequently or at least semi frequently. A majority of us are the ones that may be seen as the "Whiners" and "Complainers" truth is we love Disneyland more then words could ever explain, we love "Good Show" we respect and appreciate Walt Disney's visions and hopes.
We know how much a good presentation and good show meant to Walt and it was constantly reinforced to the cast on a daily basis (based on testimony from former park cast members and company artists and W.E.D cast (employees)
At least with myself and others we have seen how the incompetence at the corporate level has made the parks management seem to forget the importance of good show and has severely lacked on this aspect in more ways then one (things were on a serious upswing on the leadup to the 50th under leadership of Mr. Matt O. Although we know that currently the park could be doing a lot better in certain respects to the show in maintenance, set painting and Cast Member training and treatment (i.e CM break rooms, food facilities, transportation, presentation etc.)
We know things could be so much better and frankly for a $70 dollar single day one park entrance ticket I expect the "Show to come first"
Just because you may offer a 5 year old parade, Fire Works show and 15 year old river show for $70 does not mean you can just forget about all the other aspects of the park that really make it special.
I know these threads may be disappointing, hurtful or annoying (or all of the above) to some fans, but sometimes the truth hurts and you can always skip the thread.
If Al Lutz in his update, never focused on some of the negative aspects of what was being planned in certain redesigns of attractions or removals of certain show elements, much worse things would have happened to some of our and our children's favorite attractions.
Thank you TechSkip for sharing your story about the Grotto.
I sure hope someone will take care of that aspect of the set over in that area, it is a special place.
Heres to hoping the "Little things" like the paint and general upkeep of the exterior show sets are given a higher priority once again like in the year 2005. It is hopefully because of these posts creating public scrutiny and lighting a fire in the Disney corporate bean counters cubical, that when someone visits on there once in 5 year trip that the park is beautiful, clean and welcoming.
This is about the "show" this is about preserving the "Magic" for all to enjoy.
If we just sat idly the park would surely turn into a expensive "Mall" far faster then we would ever imagine.
Remember the words of the founder of the Park and the visionary Walt Disney.
"Disneyland is a show." -Walter E. Disney
"Give the public everything you can give them, keep the place as clean as you can keep it, keep it friendly." -Walter E. Disney
"Whenever I go on a ride, I'm always thinking of what's wrong with the thing and how it can be improved." -Walter E. Disney
"Our heritage and ideals, our code and standards - the things we live by and teach our children - are preserved or diminished by how freely we exchange ideas and feelings." -Walter E. Disney
"I don't want the public to see the world they live in while they're in the Park (Disneyland). I want to feel they're in another world." -Walter E. Disney
"Disneyland is a work of love. We didn't go into Disneyland just with the idea of making money." -Walter E. Disney
"Anything that has the Disney name to it is something we feel responsible for." —Walter E. Disney
"Disneyland is the star, everything else is in the supporting role." -Walter E. Disney
Yep yep, it's certainly a valid annoyance if infrequent visitors are bothered by so-called nitpicks. I've been in that position, and to a certain extent, I still am. It feels like these people are so fortunate to go all the time, so why should they be unappreciative and complain? But there's also a lot of validity to techskip's position--go to the park, have a great time, and be appreciative of the experience and fortunate opportunity, but also make note of things that could be better. It doesn't have to be an end-of-the-world scenario...just an honest look at things that could be improved.
If you're one of the people in the first category, think of it this way: perhaps someone else's reasonable and gracious complaint will lead to the problem being fixed before your next trip. Cool, right? :)
I still do not understand, after nearly 2 1/2 years of being a member here why people who "can't stand all the negative nitpicking threads" still read the threads, get upset and then post on here. I'm not directing this at I Heart Disneyland", I just quoted that because I also don't get to pop in ever few weeks.
are they supposed to be white like the statues... or is that oxidation/deposits over bronze?
Disney used to have a lot more people in top management who believed that keeping the park spotless was an important part of the show. People who weren't afraid to put their maintenance budgets where their mouths were.
And that's the difference.
Ahem... I'm just hoping that each of you turn around, after you look at the poor, dirty fish (which I totally agree need to be cleaned), make a wish and drop a few coins in the wishing well. I'm hoping too that all you wishes and dreams come true.