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    Wink How Close was disney to buying Knott's Berry Farm?

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    Re: How Close was disney to buying Knott's Berry Farm?

    I'm not sure, but from what I read in wikipedia, the Knott's family didn't want the WDC to take over out of fear that Disney would eliminate all that Mr. Knott had worked so hard to create.

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    Re: How Close was disney to buying Knott's Berry Farm?

    Yea, Disney would actually clean the place up for a change, it was nasty when i went.

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    Re: How Close was disney to buying Knott's Berry Farm?

    Quote Originally Posted by DarylF View Post
    I'm not sure, but from what I read in wikipedia, the Knott's family didn't want the WDC to take over out of fear that Disney would eliminate all that Mr. Knott had worked so hard to create.
    If that was the case, then they really blew that one didn't they. Disney would have done a lot less damage than Cedar Fair has. Anyway, I have my doubts that that was really a big factor or that Disney would really be that interested. If someone came in offering a huge amount of money to demo the place and put in condos, I bet the family would have sold happily.
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    Re: How Close was disney to buying Knott's Berry Farm?

    Heh, I bet Walter Knott is spinning in his grave each time a new footer is poured for a rollercoaster at KBF. Cedar Fail did more damage than Disney ever could have.

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    Re: How Close was disney to buying Knott's Berry Farm?

    Further to Wikipedia, Knott's was to be a part of the 'Expanded' Disneyland Resort, and converted into Disney's America.

    Can anyone verify further?

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    Re: How Close was disney to buying Knott's Berry Farm?

    Yeah I can remember when Disney was talking about building the second park (instead of DCA) in Long Beach too.

    Disney and Long Beach launch Disney Port talks. (Walt Disney Co.) | Article from Los Angeles Business Journal | HighBeam Research

    but I'm sure that a lot of things are said and pitched that never actually happen!

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    Re: How Close was disney to buying Knott's Berry Farm?

    I can't even imagine wanting to go to a second park not connected to Disneyland, even one as close as Knott's. It just seems wrong. Even if I only go into DCA or have lunch in DTD, I'm happy just being near Disneyland.

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    Re: How Close was disney to buying Knott's Berry Farm?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojave View Post
    I can't even imagine wanting to go to a second park not connected to Disneyland, even one as close as Knott's.
    Agreed; DCA sometimes seems too far!
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    Re: How Close was disney to buying Knott's Berry Farm?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojave View Post
    I can't even imagine wanting to go to a second park not connected to Disneyland, even one as close as Knott's. It just seems wrong. Even if I only go into DCA or have lunch in DTD, I'm happy just being near Disneyland.
    Just imagine the tram ride!!

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    Re: How Close was disney to buying Knott's Berry Farm?

    The Long Beach plans were a lot more appealing than the idea of buying Knotts. They actually put TDS to shame, if you can imagine that. TDS used a lot of the ideas from Port Disney, but it would have been even more elaborate if WDI had its way. Anyways, I agree that a contiguous resort is a lot more appealing and seem to be a smarter business move overall. I really can’t imagine how they could have called the entire area between DL and Knotts the resort district.
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    Re: How Close was disney to buying Knott's Berry Farm?

    Gee, think what might have happened to DL's old parking lot, if Disney would have purchased Knott's in 1997!!!! They might have avoided the whole DCA/Paradise Pier Problem!!!!!!

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    Re: How Close was disney to buying Knott's Berry Farm?

    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Bob View Post
    The Long Beach plans were a lot more appealing than the idea of buying Knotts. They actually put TDS to shame, if you can imagine that. TDS used a lot of the ideas from Port Disney, but it would have been even more elaborate if WDI had its way. Anyways, I agree that a contiguous resort is a lot more appealing and seem to be a smarter business move overall. I really can’t imagine how they could have called the entire area between DL and Knotts the resort district.

    While the Long Beach project appeared to be similar to the TDS project, I don’t believe it had any bearing on the Knott’s potential. From what I heard, Knott’s came up around the time Disney was having trouble with the Disney’s America concept. I think that the Knott family was more than willing to sell to Disney, and that Disney had some Imagineers eager to develop and enhance the park along the lines of the Disney America concept. It seems it may have also been a potential alternative to DCA.

    I believe Disney made a big mistake in not buying Knott’s. Of course, if the same people were given Knott’s that had developed DCA, I guess that it could have ended up just the same.

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    Re: How Close was disney to buying Knott's Berry Farm?

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonW View Post
    Yea, Disney would actually clean the place up for a change, it was nasty when i went.
    Did you go when Knott's was owned by Cedar Fair? If you went when it was owned by the Knott family, it was actually quite a wonderful place. And get this -- I hope you are sitting down -- there were actually a couple years in the 70s when Knott's actually had a higher yearly attendance than Disneyland did!

    Quote Originally Posted by bfdf55 View Post
    I believe Disney made a big mistake in not buying Knott’s. Of course, if the same people were given Knott’s that had developed DCA, I guess that it could have ended up just the same.
    I totally agree. They would have done a lot less damage than Cedar Fair has. In fact, they probably would have even made it better!

    Not only that they would have had a built-in audience, and I think the cost of buying an existing park would have been a lot less from building something from the ground up, only to find that no one was interested in going.

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