Autopia/Mission: SPACE & more

[filmfreak11]

I tried to keep this idea "short" and make as much sense as possible. Please enjoy at your convenience.

1) Redesign Autopia's queue, station, & maintenance bay in the Motorboat Cruise Meadow area between Matterhorn & FNSV. And perhaps indoors reflecting the Rocket Rod 1st queue of blacklit ride vehicles... maybe include Phantom/Motorboat cruise as a tribute. Tracks will have to be rerouted to accomodate this change. But will still be listed as a Tomorrowland attraction. Of course the vehicles will have an alternative energy source besides just gasoline.

2) The current Autopia queue, station, & maintenance area between Innoventions & FNSV/Monorail construct a new show building for Mission:SPACE.

Whether Mission:SPACE is physically possible, I'm not sure, but it could because most likely it won't have the post-show area like in EPCOT... saving room and perhaps adding space to the queue. Entrance perhaps where the current Autopia exit is.

I think the "Orange Team" (simulator only, no G-force) experience could be reconfigured to save more on space and the "alternative viewing experience" with one that is more handicap accessible.

Elements of the old "NASA American Space Experience" perhaps in the queue. I would not want the entrance to look exactly like in EPCOT with the exception of the rotating globe & sign that looks oddly like DL's Space Mountain sign. Maybe a part tribute to DL's old "Flight to the Moon" ride building??

3) The Peoplemover track that runs from Innoventions down to winding around the Autopia track would reroute to make a left turn down and around the exterior of TL & over Mission:SPACE's entrance. Then crosses over to over the train station as a new un/load station. Then PM makes a right inside the Mission:SPACE building past over the queue ala Star Tours style. Then the track continues outdoors winding above Autopia.

4) 3rd PM un/load station above the new Autopia station over Motorboat Cruise Meadow.

5) If there is room, perhaps a new stretch of Autopia track could run by infront of the train station to add some kinetistics when the train arrive and attract people to TL (I hope that made sense. The area where Autopia riders are beginning their drive, past the train station, and into the rest of their journey). As a turnaround eye-candy prop, a replica (perhaps not full scale) of the old House of the Future.

6) Add additional scenes to Autopia's landscape including solar panels, wind mills, and agrifuture (ala ie. EPCOT's The Land)

7) The reason why I'm not putting the idea of Mission:SPACE in Innoventions is because I envision the 1st floor as a WALL-E attraction & the 2nd floor as a restaurant, & Redd Rocket's Pizza Port maybe a new attraction. And "The Best of Innoventions" in Starcade's 1st & 2nd levels.

(If you are that curious, I imagine WALL-E as an attraction that takes place after the events of the film where guests are instructed how to take better care of the Earth led by Buy n Large's CEO and then "something goes terribly wrong" when a robot turns AUTO on. WALL-E & EVE comes to save us from AUTO returning us back into outer space. More starcruisers arrive full of people waiting to be re-educated on caring for Earth and we take our leave upstairs.

9) PM's original station under Rocket Jets I imagine the entrance/exit where the current DVC cart is now.

[filmfreak11]

Forgot to mention billboards along the train tracks as the steam engines approach the station to advertise what you may find in Tomorrowland. Like attraction posters for Star Tours, BLAB, Space, Mission: SPACE, PM, etc.

Or the posters are on the east side of Mission:SPACE show building that faces towards to the station.

[Dlandclub33]

interesting idea but it seems a little too conjested

[MainSreetJake]

I like alot of this! Although, I differ with you in the location of the WALL-E attraction. I was thinking about putting it where HISTA is now. But all of this is really cool!!! Great ideas, and pretty well thought out.

[filmfreak11]

^ the WALL-E wasn't important. I probably shouldn't have put that thought in the OP just to make the thread more simple. I know many have thought of WALL-E in HISTA, but I haven't read a good (or any infact) argument as to WHY and exactly HOW it will work.

Thanks for reading & replying

As for conjestion... that's basically what Disneyland in CA is all about. They amazingly squeeze ALOT of things in this park. MCers have complained about the lack of real estate for expansion, so this just seems logical.

[Dlandclub33]

^ no problem I know I wish DLand had more room but ur gives them challenges to brilliantly tie the land together

[RocknGuitar]

That woud be cool to have Mission: SPACE, but I just don't think it would work for two reasons. One, I doubt there is enough space to cover the entire queue and showbuilding that Epcot has, and two, it doesn't really fit themeing wise. It is more of a "now" or "modern" attraction. Not science fantasy, which was the theme the park started to lean to after realizing Tomorrowland was quickly becoming "todayland" with all the rapid advancements in technology. Trust me, I love the idea, and it would be awesome to have a cool attraction like Mission Space, but it just wouldn't work. Plus, what would happen, if Disney ever decided to put something up on the Peoplemover tracks, to the queue for that attraction?

[filmfreak11]

Originally Posted by RocknGuitar

What would happen, if Disney ever decided to put something up on the Peoplemover tracks, to the queue for that attraction?

I understood everything in your post except this.

I personally haven't been to M:S myself. I've just seen a lot of pics and vids. The one thing I found "modern & contemporary" or at least a bit distracting was a mug on top of stacks of paper in the control room I think. There was something about that I can't point my finger on. Is "ROCKET TO THE MOON" any different than the premise of launching to an outer space destination? I think M:S is repeatedly mentioned in the attraction as a simulator to train future astronauts so it's not supposed to be a real space adventure.

Disney dealed with "queue space issue" for DCA's TOT by creating a second level queue. Jungle Cruise received a second level queue structure as well.

Food for thought: I just read WDI wanted to keep the Horizons building to use in EPCOT but the design of the centrifuge for the simulator made it necessary to create a whole new building... not sure if that's of any significance(sp) to anyone.

[filmfreak11]

Reason why I had a PM station above the train station and a new Autopia station is because it fits in with the idea of urban planning- building on top of precious space. The original PM station was already situated between Rocket Jets and a Space Bar... so it just makes sense to continue with that "futuristic urban" construction.

Maybe also to entice people from the train to visit TL have a horizontally (sp?) long electronic display attached to the station that displays what attractions are open and their wait times. Basically just continously scrolling.

[DragonFire FURY]

That's good stuff there, although I do not want a Mission: Space (no clones!).

Autopia definately needs to be more like something you would find in the 'Land of Tomorrow' e.g electric cars powered by renewable energy sources positioned along the way.

I don't know anything about the people mover but it seems like a good idea to me.

I fully support a Wall-E attraction. I think it would work in a simulator ride, but then you would have too many simulators.

Anyone else have ideas for how a Wall-e ride might work?

[filmfreak11]

My main focus was new attraction space, Autopia station redesign, and PeopleMover "expansion".

The Mission:SPACE was in the post basically because that's what many MCers wanted... but everytime I post an answer, it's typically shot down here... so where are the Mission:SPACE "yah" sayers??

[Ghostbuster626]

mission:space sucks. Disneyland deserves better

[EliteGCUnit]

Originally Posted by filmfreak11

I tried to keep this idea "short" and make as much sense as possible. Please enjoy at your convenience.

1) Redesign Autopia's queue, station, & maintenance bay in the Motorboat Cruise Meadow area between Matterhorn & FNSV. And perhaps indoors reflecting the Rocket Rod 1st queue of blacklit ride vehicles... maybe include Phantom/Motorboat cruise as a tribute. Tracks will have to be rerouted to accomodate this change. But will still be listed as a Tomorrowland attraction. Of course the vehicles will have an alternative energy source besides just gasoline.

2) The current Autopia queue, station, & maintenance area between Innoventions & FNSV/Monorail construct a new show building for Mission:SPACE.

Whether Mission:SPACE is physically possible, I'm not sure, but it could because most likely it won't have the post-show area like in EPCOT... saving room and perhaps adding space to the queue. Entrance perhaps where the current Autopia exit is.

I think the "Orange Team" (simulator only, no G-force) experience could be reconfigured to save more on space and the "alternative viewing experience" with one that is more handicap accessible.

Elements of the old "NASA American Space Experience" perhaps in the queue. I would not want the entrance to look exactly like in EPCOT with the exception of the rotating globe & sign that looks oddly like DL's Space Mountain sign. Maybe a part tribute to DL's old "Flight to the Moon" ride building??

3) The Peoplemover track that runs from Innoventions down to winding around the Autopia track would reroute to make a left turn down and around the exterior of TL & over Mission:SPACE's entrance. Then crosses over to over the train station as a new un/load station. Then PM makes a right inside the Mission:SPACE building past over the queue ala Star Tours style. Then the track continues outdoors winding above Autopia.

4) 3rd PM un/load station above the new Autopia station over Motorboat Cruise Meadow.

5) If there is room, perhaps a new stretch of Autopia track could run by infront of the train station to add some kinetistics when the train arrive and attract people to TL (I hope that made sense. The area where Autopia riders are beginning their drive, past the train station, and into the rest of their journey). As a turnaround eye-candy prop, a replica (perhaps not full scale) of the old House of the Future.

6) Add additional scenes to Autopia's landscape including solar panels, wind mills, and agrifuture (ala ie. EPCOT's The Land)

7) The reason why I'm not putting the idea of Mission:SPACE in Innoventions is because I envision the 1st floor as a WALL-E attraction & the 2nd floor as a restaurant, & Redd Rocket's Pizza Port maybe a new attraction. And "The Best of Innoventions" in Starcade's 1st & 2nd levels.

(If you are that curious, I imagine WALL-E as an attraction that takes place after the events of the film where guests are instructed how to take better care of the Earth led by Buy n Large's CEO and then "something goes terribly wrong" when a robot turns AUTO on. WALL-E & EVE comes to save us from AUTO returning us back into outer space. More starcruisers arrive full of people waiting to be re-educated on caring for Earth and we take our leave upstairs.

9) PM's original station under Rocket Jets I imagine the entrance/exit where the current DVC cart is now.

Those are some good ideas. The best thing would be to get rid of innoventions in the first place because sooner or later I hate to say it but its going to be gone. But Put the Misson Space in the bottom part of it and then some sort of wall-e idea up top. The only bad thing is, is that the train tracks run behind innovntions, also overlaps the diorama for Trains. There is no space back there because it's closer to Harbor than you think. I really think they should re-do some more of Autopia and make it like the epcot center like you said. They should just re-do tommorow land. There's so many big objects but there's nothing to do. What we really need is funding. Tommorowland used up all of Disneylands crosstraining budget this summer and they havent been in good terms with anyone ever since. But it's stll my favorite.
Look forward to some improvments, especially in star tours because "Star Tours, what are you doing here?!?!" is going to be gone sooner than everyone thinks if they stay on budget.

[EliteGCUnit]

Originally Posted by DragonFire FURY

That's good stuff there, although I do not want a Mission: Space (no clones!).

Autopia definately needs to be more like something you would find in the 'Land of Tomorrow' e.g electric cars powered by renewable energy sources positioned along the way.

I don't know anything about the people mover but it seems like a good idea to me.

I fully support a Wall-E attraction. I think it would work in a simulator ride, but then you would have too many simulators.

Anyone else have ideas for how a Wall-e ride might work?

you're right. well..the Wall-E ride could most likely be a dark ride for all ages or maybe an inside coaster..or possibly with the theming of the B&L starcraft like the movers they have for transporting robots make them for people size..or even the little pods that wall-e gets himself into with the plant. Then go around and inside then back to earth. Because if you ever knotice, the dark rides are based around the whole movie itself...like all the classics, roger rabbit, and pooh. So it could strt out with a video of what happend on earth and then continue onto the B&L ship. I dont know. Thats to much thinking..because wall-e could also be a half coaster/half dark ride. start it off with a dark ride then move up to a fast paced ride. but theres no where reeallyy to put that. So my dreams are crushed

[filmfreak11]

I'm not sure if this was clear, but the idea of PM stations over the train station and a new Autopia station would be where the straight areas of the track would be... think Haunted Mansion's un/load areas how they are on straight areas of track with the moving floor.

Originally Posted by EliteGCUnit

What we really need is funding. Tommorowland used up all of Disneylands crosstraining budget this summer and they havent been in good terms with anyone ever since.

REALLY?

Originally Posted by EliteGCUnit

the Wall-E ride could most likely be a dark ride for all ages or maybe an inside coaster... but theres no where reeallyy to put that. So my dreams are crushed

I give you points for actually being constructive.

Originally Posted by RocknGuitar

Mission: SPACE... is more of a "now" or "modern" attraction.

I thought the storyline was it was supposed to take place in the year 2035?