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    Question about the 2006 Honda Civic give-away coming up:

    As most people I'm sure are aware - Every day throughout the month of October, Disneyland is giving away a free car each day - The 2006 Honda Civic. Brand new design ... everyone will get to see a couple on display in the esplanade. A scaled down model of Space Mountain makes up the display. Must be about 20 feet in diameter .. and about 15 feet tall.

    Anyway ..... my question is ....... Anybody know around here if they are going to count "New Entries" into the park, only, that choose a winner? Or are they going to count multiple re-entries into the park into the counter system that ultimately chooses a winner?

    With park-hopping between 2 parks, DtD, hotel guests .... making up for lots of re-entries throughout the day ... I wonder if they are going to count "first time" entries only.

    I doubt anyone with an AP is going to stand around the entrance all day .. coming in and coming out ....... but it would be interesting to know what they are going to do.

    Anyhow ....... Too bad they are only doing this October 1st through the 31st. Remember the days of the "Gift Giver" machine back in 1990? I won the Mickey plush, and video set. I know of one person who won a car. The car give-aways in the 30th and 35th anniversaries help made up for two absolutely fantastic anniversary years.

    Anyway ...... anyone know which "odometer" reading they are using?
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    Re: Question about the 2006 Honda Civic give-away coming up:

    Here is a link to the official rules, which I have just found a hour or so ago....

    http://disneyland.disney.go.com/disn...ventDetailPage

    While I plan to do a better analyst of it later, right now, here are the basics...

    Each day.. (and a day is from 3:01 PM the prior day to 3 PM that day) 7 "winning" game pieces will be placed in the stack of non-winning pieces (overall, 1.8 million, or about 58,000 per day average, of course slow weekdays will have less attendance).

    Each of the seven daily winners get a pair of Deluxe AP's, and then get to participate at about 4:30 PM at the Main Entry Plaza for a chance to win a car.... Each of the 7 winners will draw a key, one of which will open the car. If less than 7 folks turn in their winning piece, then they will remove one "non-winning" key for each no-show.

    There are NO other prizes except the up to 7 daily winners of the pair of AP's, and the one car a day.

    The turnstile CM's know, as stated on their computer screen, if it is your first entry of the day, and then those folks will get a game piece. Any additional entry (ParkHopper or return) does not get a game piece. The non-purchase clause allows someone to go to Guest Relations and pick up a game piece, limit of one per day.

    The game piece has a value of about 33 cents, based on the prizes compared to the odds. That value will go up on slow weekdays (better odds), but more than likely not more than a $1.

    The best hope is for some REALLY bad weather, then show up at the park on that day. Otherwise, it won't be worth it to make a special trip to the park to just pick up a game piece. (The cost to get there in the vast majority of cases is more than $1.)

    I will work on a more detailed analyst later this week....
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    Re: Question about the 2006 Honda Civic give-away coming up:

    It's too bad that CMs and their immediate families are exempt.

    Of course, this definitely increases the chance of winning for other, full=paying and AP guests!

    But is sad for poor '94-car-owning me.
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    Re: Question about the 2006 Honda Civic give-away coming up:

    Since when is a deluxe AP worth $458???
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    Re: Question about the 2006 Honda Civic give-away coming up:

    Quote Originally Posted by NeverNeverland
    Since when is a deluxe AP worth $458???
    I assume that's the value of two AP's (each winning ticket gets two)

    Here's what I don't get... it looks like everyone going into the park can get two game pieces: just stop by Guest Relations on your way in! Maybe they have a system to avert this, but it doesn't say in the rules (just that you are entitled to only one "free" gamepiece each day at GR, so that would mean one "free" one and one "with park admission").
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    Re: Question about the 2006 Honda Civic give-away coming up:

    If you get one from guest relations, as part of the no purchase thing, then you wouldn't have a ticket. If they show you going through the gates at any time, they could invalidate your winning ticket. I'm sure they'll take your name and ask for an ID or something at guest relations. And they of course know your name the moment you use your pass at the entrance gate(assuming you're an AP).

    But the point is: If you win, you'll have to give them your name. If they have it recorded from both places, you're busted.

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    Re: Question about the 2006 Honda Civic give-away coming up:

    PS I enjoy how in the legal stuff from the website, it mentions that winning tickets which are counterfeit are void. Poor disney legal team having to cover everything.

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    Re: Question about the 2006 Honda Civic give-away coming up:

    Quote Originally Posted by almandot
    If you get one from guest relations, as part of the no purchase thing, then you wouldn't have a ticket.
    How would they know at the window if you have a ticket or not?
    If they show you going through the gates at any time, they could invalidate your winning ticket.
    How would "they show you going through the gates?" Park tickets have no name; ID not required. There's no possible way to record who's going through the turnstile (with the possible exception of AP's).

    I'm sure they'll take your name and ask for an ID or something at guest relations. And they of course know your name the moment you use your pass at the entrance gate(assuming you're an AP).
    Yes, for AP's, but not for regular ticket holders.

    But the point is: If you win, you'll have to give them your name. If they have it recorded from both places, you're busted.
    My point: if you have a regular ticket, they can only record your name at Guest Services.

    Possible winning scenario:

    1. You go to the Guest Services and get your "no purchase necessary" game ticket. Scratch it off. If it's not a winning ticket (if it's a winning ticket, proceed to step #4)

    2. Go to the box office and buy your park ticket (assuming this was a planned day at DLR anyway).

    3. Enter the park, obtain another game ticket. Scratch it off. It's a winner!

    4. EXIT the park, DO NOT go to City Hall! Return to the Guest Relations window and tell them "my free ticket is a winner, what do I do??"

    5. They escort you into the park for the drawing ceremony later that day.
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    Re: Question about the 2006 Honda Civic give-away coming up:

    Also, if each "day" is defined as 3:01pm to 3:000pm the following day... isn't it perfectly legitimate and within the rules to get one game ticket in the morning (when entering the park) and then another one from Guest Relations (recorded name or not) after 3:00pm the same day??
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    Re: Question about the 2006 Honda Civic give-away coming up:

    Let's look at the "odds" of winning. First off, there is no way to exactly determine the odds, since it is based on how many tickets are handed out in a "Prize Day", that is from 3:01 PM the day before to 3 PM the day of the giveaway.

    The odds mention 1,800,000 tickets. We have no idea if they will use all 1,800,000, which works out to 58,065 people a day on average. We know that is too high for a normal off-season weekday. Last year (per the AB/ERA estimates) Disneyland Park had 13.3 million, and DCA had 5.6 million for a total of 18.9 million a year, or a average of 1,575,000 a month. Now we know the really peak times are Summer, and the last couple of weeks in December, where they have high numbers 7 days a week. In October, most weekdays are a lot less busy. So while October has some special events and promotions (such as Haunted Mansion Holiday), it seems that the total months attendance would be LESS than the monthly average. Then we need to factor in the boost Disneyland has received due to the 50th, but some of that can be offset by the drop in attendance that has been seen at DCA. So, I think the 1.8 million tickets is Disney's HIGHEST expectation of tickets needed, if everything, including this promotion creates a large spike in attendance.

    To further this discussion, we need to make some presumptions....

    Let's drop the 1.8 million to a more reasonable number, and say 1.5 million in attendance (Still close to last year's monthly average), and I think I am using a number that might be even a bit high.

    Now we need to look at Special events....

    October 1st and 2nd - Unofficial Gay Days

    October 2nd - CHOC walk (These folks will not get a scratch-off ticket for the walk, but many of the folks will go to the park after the DtD ending event)

    October 9th - Sunday of a Three Day Weekend

    October 10th - Federal Holiday

    Mickey's Halloween Event at DCA shouldn't have much of an effect, those tickets do not get a game piece, and most of these folks will be dressed up, and won't be able to go to Disneyland first.

    Other than that, we should be able to break down attendance into a few catagories

    Monday thru Thursday - Slow off-season days, with the exception of the Holiday - 16 "regular"

    Friday - 3 "regular"

    Saturday - 3 "regular"

    Sunday - 3 "regular"

    One more factor, the first day of the contest, no tickets will be handed out from 3:01 PM to closing the day before, only from Park Opening (aka 8:30 AM) to 3 PM, but since it is Saturday and one of the Gay Days, that won't make much of the difference. And anyways, the vast majority of folks have made their first entry into the park by 3 PM.

    So, we need to break down the 1.5 million into these catagories, so here is an educated guess ...

    Saturday, October 1st - Disneyland 67,000, DCA 13,000 = 80,000

    Sunday, October 2nd - Disneyland 60,000, DCA 18,000 = 78,000

    Friday, October 7th - Disneyland 60,000, DCA 12,000 = 72,000

    Saturday, October 8th - Disneyland 65,000, DCA 15,000 = 80,000

    Sunday, October 9th - Disneyland 62,000, DCA 15,000 = 77,000

    Monday, October 10th - Disneyland 50,000, DCA 10,000 = 60,000

    Regular Friday - Disneyland 47,000, DCA 10,000; 57,000 x 3 = 171,000

    Regular Saturday - Disneyland 55,000, DCA 12,000; 67,000 x 3 = 201,000

    Regular Sunday - Disneyland 50,000, DCA 12,000; 62,000 x 3 = 186,000

    Regular Weekday (Mon-Thur) Disneyland 25,000, DCA 6,500; 31,500 x 16 = 504,000

    Ok, that works out to 1.5 million guests for the month of October, and of course these numbers can change due to weather or other fators, it should be a fairly representive number...

    So lets look at the "revised odds"....

    We still have 271 "winning" cards, 7 per day

    We still have a total prize value of $629,486.

    But using the more realistic 1.5 million number, your odds of winning a prize has gone down to 1 in 5,535 to win a pair of AP's, and 1 in 48,387 to win a car on average, and the average game piece has a value of 42 cents.

    So let's break it down per "catagory"... Of course, the odds of winning the car is 1 in "the daily attendance" (the first number).



    Saturday, October 1st - 80,000, Winning Game Piece - 1 in 11,429, Game Piece value - 25 cents


    Sunday, October 2nd - 78,000, Winning Game Piece - 1 in 11,143, Game Piece value - 26 cents


    Friday, October 7th - 72,000, Winning Game Piece - 1 in 10,286, Game Piece value - 28 cents


    Saturday, October 8th - 80,000, Winning Game Piece - 1 in 11,429, Game Piece value - 25 cents


    Sunday, October 9th - 77,000, Winning Game Piece - 1 in 11,000, Game Piece value - 26 cents


    Monday, October 10th - 60,000, Winning Game Piece - 1 in 8,571, Game Piece value - 34 cents


    Regular Friday - 57,000, Winning Game Piece - 1 in 8,143, Game Piece value - 36 cents


    Regular Saturday - 67,000, Winning Game Piece - 1 in 9,571, Game Piece value - 30 cents


    Regular Sunday - 62,000, Winning Game Piece - 1 in 8,857, Game Piece value - 33 cents


    Regular Weekday (Mon-Thur) - 31,500, Winning Game Piece - 1 in 4,500, Game Piece value - 64 cents



    So, as you can see, going a slow day does help your odds, but still don't go to the park just to win the car.

    One more number, less say we have a day of really bad weather, and say only 14,000 folks show up...

    Odds of getting a winning game piece, 1 in 2,000, Game Piece Value would be $1.45.

    So go have fun in the park, and if you get lucky, you get lucky...
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    For the Disneyland a car (Honda Civic) a day giveaway in October, there's a display in the esplanade between DL and DCA that includes a smaller (compared to the real one) model of Space Mountain which has a Honda Civic on either side. Next to the model is a video screen that shows video of various present and past attractions (I didn't sit through the whole cycle, so I don't know what the whole thing says), which means even though the Block Party Bash cone is gone, the esplanade is still a very loud place.

    Here's a picture of the sign:
    http://www.colddeadfish.net/images/DLR/critg2.jpg.

    Here's a picture of the display:
    http://www.colddeadfish.net/images/DLR/critg1.jpg.

    Here's a closeup of the "license plate" on the cars:
    http://www.colddeadfish.net/images/DLR/critg3.jpg.

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    Re: Question about the 2006 Honda Civic give-away coming up:

    Interesting. Some questions come to mind. How do they make sure 7 wining tickets are distributed before 3:00PM if the number of guest's will be unknown? Or is there even winning tickets "pre-say" or numbers on tickets that are drawn?

    I think the tickets are a waist. It would be better to have the computer ranbomly select entering guest's between the times, and have the gate CM give them there winning ticket or some CM's hang around the gates waiting for someone to win. Less paper, less room for error.

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    Re: Question about the 2006 Honda Civic give-away coming up:

    ok guys......it is quite a shame that we cm's are not allowed to participate along with our immediate family members.....too bad there is always a way around this....anyway, since it being our slow season, our attendance during a weekday (mon-thur) is around 25,000 guests. our attendance for an off season saturday is around 40,000 guests.......yesterday was so freakin busy that it felt like a typical summer saturday.....anyway, good luck to all of you that participate in this event and i hope that someone here wins a new Honda......if you could choose: would you want the 2-door, 4-door, or hybrid??
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    Re: Question about the 2006 Honda Civic give-away coming up:

    Quote Originally Posted by Disneychica04
    .....anyway, good luck to all of you that participate in this event and i hope that someone here wins a new Honda......if you could choose: would you want the 2-door, 4-door, or hybrid??
    I'd go for the 4-door. Much more versatile .. and who wouldn't want the hybrid with 45 miles to the gallon in the city, as appose to 28mpg, at 3 bucks a gallon for gas? But no one will be winning a hybrid .. since Hybrid 2006 models will not be available just quite yet. Only the normal engines are available. At the moment, honda.com says nothing about a 2006 Civic hybrid.
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    Re: Question about the 2006 Honda Civic give-away coming up:

    What if you win two Deluxe APs but already have a Premium?


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