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Old 03-25-2009, 04:38 PM   #31
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Re: Oh no! Another Peoplemover Idea!

Acutally, that could be a really tasteful and classy way to do a Wall-E tie-in Data. There's really no need to put the title of the character or movie into every name, even when they have some connection. Or they could go the totally authentically themed Wall-E way and turn Space Mountain into a giant pile of trash.
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Old 03-25-2009, 04:40 PM   #32
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How well the movie does will have a major say in that.
Not so sure on that these days. I don't know if you recall when John Lasseter came on board, he argued about why the attractions for a new movie doesn't come out the same time as the new movie itself.

How much influence that has on the upcoming attractions for Disneyland remains to be seen.
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Old 03-25-2009, 04:55 PM   #33
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I almost always agree with John, but on that I think he's wrong. There are far more chances to make movies than build attractions, so when you base an attraction on a movie, you should be absolutely sure of its long term appeal and relative status within the Disney library. Personally I think it takes about 10 years to even know if a film is park worthy. Getting a spot in a the parks should be reserved for the most significant and popular films and for attractions that fit really well with the theme of their land.
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Old 03-25-2009, 04:57 PM   #34
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Re: Oh no! Another Peoplemover Idea!

Really stop with Pixar and stop with high speed turning trough those track(i find the concept great but those cant hold that speed).Walt wanted a park for everybody not just for kids or adult/teen at WDW the TTA is a great old ride all they do to keep it running is that they upgrade the soundtrack so why dont they just do new cars and soundtrack.

But i have a concept for both PM and RR.You start by boarding your Rocket mover(The ride name) and you have already meet Joe and Auto your guides but before that you must chose if you chose the trilling experience or less trilling experience(you will see later).Then you leave the station on your magnetic controlled rocket(same thigh as TTA) and you take a tour around Tomorowland with special effects but when you arrive at Inovention(half way trough Joe notices that you are late.So he orders Auto to accelerate.Now if you chose trilling experience the AC breaks and when Auto is about to accelerate all the windows open and Joe freaks and then zig zag over the Autopia Monorail(on a new banked track) and Joe shuts down Auto near before the Monorail station and you decelerate and you continue to the station as a tour.
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Old 03-25-2009, 04:59 PM   #35
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Re: Oh no! Another Peoplemover Idea!

Gosh, is it time for another PeopleMover thread again already?

My 2¢:
• Wall-E design - okay but with no overt movie tie-in please. Can't you only face one way in those things?
• Tron cycles? Don't know how that could possibly work given the nature of the current infrastructure.
• Incredipods - Loved the movie John and Brad but not from the future and no thank you very much.
• Meet the Robinsons - Design could work quite well but with no overt tie-in to that badly muddled movie.
• Tear out those empty tracks and start over with a fresh, new idea - Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!
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Re: Oh no! Another Peoplemover Idea!

I've seen this idea float around before. While Wall-E is a GREAT movie, I don't think he fits in Tomorrowland, as that movie doesn't have the most positive outlook on the future. Especialy in this situation, where the peoplemover in the movie was another one of the things that kept the humans sedentary.

I say they just bring back a re-modeled Peoplemover with no movie tie ins.
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Old 03-25-2009, 05:52 PM   #37
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Re: Oh no! Another Peoplemover Idea!

well you could have the original peoplemover type ride and then have scenes from walle in the indoor rooms.
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but i like the idea of taking the entire ride out the best
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By this point, I'm in the "get something on those tracks by any means necessary" so I have no big problem with this or Incredipods (whose design I actually prefer; heck, just use that design without going on about where it's from and I don't see what the problem is).
As for use of Pixar, I feel a lot of sympathy for those who say it doesn't belong in TL, but I think worse has already been done both in being a) egregiously out of theme and b) in using Pixar's worst movie, by the presence of Monsters Inc. in the Tomorrowlands of Orlando and Tokyo. Monsters are about a thousand times more out-of-theme for TL than either Wall-E or the Incredibles.

Keep/get Monsters Inc. out of Tomorrowland!

(Well, okay, that's an exception to the "by any means necessary" statement I made earlier. If they were to announce that the Peoplemover was to be revived with a Monsters theme, I'd say tear the tracks down.)
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but i like the idea of taking the entire ride out the best
I sure don't. Because once it's gone, it ain't ever coming back. Never ever. There are some things in Disneyland worth holding onto. The impression of a busy Tomorrowland is one of them.

I'll take a badly themed attraction over losing it. At least you can change a bad theme eventually.
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Re: Oh no! Another Peoplemover Idea!

well they can still have a sky ride. just take out the supports and do it over. that way if they want to they can do something fast. if not then i still like the walle themed ride.
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I'm on the "if they don't put something without a movie tie in on the tracks, rip them down" train.
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Actually, this could be a possibility more than you think. Tron cycles anyone?
This idea really is physically safe and completely possible ... remember the old concept of Steeple Chase at Knott's? That concept has been improved upon by Vekoma (and later Intamin and Arrow Dynamics) into the current-day motobike coaster. There are only two of these in operation in the U.S. right now - the one most of OC/LA residents will be familiar with is Pony Express at KBF.


This could easily be built along the peoplemover tracks by installing the coaster tracks on the actual PM tracks, and banking the coaster tracks themselves (without going through the expense of banking the entire PM track). Remember that it was cost prohibitive at the time to bank the old RR track, and it was the constant slowing down and accelerating that actually wore on the structures ... not the weight of the cars themselves. So if we had a flat coaster track embedded in/sitting on top of the PM track, this would easily solve the problem of banked turns, expense, and structure wear and tear.

All motobike coasters use a flywheel launch system, which is perfect for that first stretch of track down the middle of the plaza. It would probably require some runners at certain points to keep the vehicles propelled, but that's no different than the Matterhorn having to have them. And while it would be easily enough to design the Tron cycles to launch one at a time rather than in a train like most motobike coasters, I could see it being load capacity hell.

But other than that, it could fully work!
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Re: Oh no! Another Peoplemover Idea!

The track should NOT be ripped out. There are numerous reasons:

* The buildings are designed with it incorporated into them.
* It doesn't have a big outdoor footprint, nor is it an eyesore.
* It's a well-designed track; it'd be pretty tough to come up with a layout that worked better.
* Visually, it's reasonably futuristic and could easily be adapted to a more specific land-wide theme.
* There is no significant advantage to the removal of the track.
* Keeping some form of the old track is quite simply cheaper! Demolition is costly.
* Due to the track's presence all over the land, demolition would necessitate widespread scaffolding and construction walls and so forth. It's doable (c.f. DCA) but not ideal, especially when the end result will be a blank space for...more construction. With results that wouldn't necessarily be any better.
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How about just bringing it back without tying it to a movie? I miss that about Disneyland. Now everything has to be a tie-in and it is not as wonderful as Disney Management likes to believe it is...
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