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    Re: Mater's Junkyard Jamboree Vehicle Prototype Test

    I don't think it would work if you make it that simple. You either would get really embarasing stalls of overweight people (I'd rather ride an "oversize" tire then get stuck in the middle of the ride like a fat turtle on its back) or possible problems with kids going too fast or maybe even overturning. I don't see how it's going to work without a very complex set of controls adjusting each jet precisely based on the exact location of each tire. Thus why this didn't become practical until now (maybe ) when they have the computers that can handle the adjustments. Still seems like a ton of moving parts and highly likely to break still. Could each tire have a way that it could make adjustments or are we pretty sure the adjustments will come from the deck?
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    Re: Mater's Junkyard Jamboree Vehicle Prototype Test

    Quote Originally Posted by flynnibus View Post
    Only if no one ever moved... The amount of air required will vary as someone moves about and runs into things. The air cushion will change size and shape, requiring a higher 'tax' on the airflow to adjust as the air curtains readjust. Most systems would compensate for this by simply just cranking up the flow all together so any variations can be handled.

    It's like trying to sit on a raft in the pool.. as you move around on the raft, the amount of water displaced (your air cushion) changes as the raft comes out of the water, one side dips more then the other, etc. And of course here we are supposed to be bumper cars too!



    My reasoning is the weight swing you must account for (probably 150+lbs) is just so massive in terms of the amount of air flow difference needed.. I don't think you can overcome it with simple size differences. It's just not dynamic enough.

    So here's some left field thinking. What if the cars don't hover at all. What if the carts really are on wheels and the air system is only to reduce the weight and make them more neutral. If they do that enough.. they can create floating feelings without actually having to support the full weight of the vehicle+guest.
    Hah, I was just pondering the same thing.
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    Re: Mater's Junkyard Jamboree Vehicle Prototype Test

    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Bob View Post
    I don't think it would work if you make it that simple. You either would get really embarasing stalls of overweight people (I'd rather ride an "oversize" tire then get stuck in the middle of the ride like a fat turtle on its back) or possible problems with kids going too fast or maybe even overturning.
    This is indeed what happened in the original. Overweight and the ride didn't life off the deck, underweight and the ride just sat there bouncing up and down repeatedly without any control.

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    Re: Mater's Junkyard Jamboree Vehicle Prototype Test

    Looks great! Was that Lasseter getting whipped around behind the tractor?

    Yay! Luigi's tires look like it will be fun too. Looks like they are borrowing the ride system from the Aquatopia ride at DisneySea.

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    Re: Mater's Junkyard Jamboree Vehicle Prototype Test

    The whole "whip" concept looks like a glorified combination of Teacups and the old carni Scrambler!
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    Re: Mater's Junkyard Jamboree Vehicle Prototype Test

    But if it actually follows a track through a themed junk yard with many things to just miss......I think this would be a solid and unique C ticket!
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    Re: Mater's Junkyard Jamboree Vehicle Prototype Test

    Quote Originally Posted by themur View Post
    But if it actually follows a track through a themed junk yard with many things to just miss......I think this would be a solid and unique C ticket!
    I am thinking it will be like Toad or Roger in that respect. It will be interesting. I just wish there wasn't such a heavy reliance on a movie franchise.
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    Re: Mater's Junkyard Jamboree Vehicle Prototype Test

    Quote Originally Posted by techskip View Post
    Sometimes I sit back and wonder what WED would have done with the technology and resources of today...

    Even with a computer, the constant air flow adjustment is likely to be the Achilles Heel of the attraction. I can see it being a Facilities nightmare!
    From the looks of the video segment, it looks like they aren't going for the high tech version (pressure differentials) for the new ride. It looks like they are just going to use constant air through holes in the platform.

    I think they may have the system mocked up at one of Imagineering's off site facilities in Glendale. There's a huge wooden structure in a parking lot off of Grand Central. I think that might be where they test some of their ride concepts. If you Google Earth or Map Quest the area, you can see what looks like a track layout. Too bad the images are so old or else we could actually see what's there now.

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    Re: Mater's Junkyard Jamboree Vehicle Prototype Test

    Quote Originally Posted by Ride Warrior View Post
    YouTube - Blue Sky Cellar, Entrance Video (Full video)

    Go to the 1.47 thru 1.50 marks of this silent video taken at DCA's Blue Sky Cellar, and you will see brief footage of what appears to be a Tow Mater's Junkyard Jamboree vehicle prototype being tested on a paved lot. If you hold the mark controller still at each frame, you will get a better view. This adds further credence to the notion that TMJJ will be a whip ride...hopefully a mega whip.

    Al announced in his last update that the Midway Mania models will be removed in July, making room for DCA's Blue Sky Cellar update. The change-up should include exciting new exhibits for World of Color, Little Mermaid and the continued remodelling of Paradise Pier. One can only hope that the update would include Carsland. If not, perhaps next time.

    In the meantime, it's great to spot something new in this old footage.
    The one in the Hawaiian shirt looks like Lasseter.

    If they use a tractor to pull the “trailer” around an elaborate figure 8 (or 16, or whatever), it should provide some significant whip effects.

    One question I have for the concept as a whole is: in the movie, the "tractors" play the roles of cows, as in "cow tipping". Why would these cow/tractors be pulling trailers through a junk yard?

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    Re: Mater's Junkyard Jamboree Vehicle Prototype Test

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbossa View Post
    Looks great! Was that Lasseter getting whipped around behind the tractor?

    Yay! Luigi's tires look like it will be fun too. Looks like they are borrowing the ride system from the Aquatopia ride at DisneySea.
    Yes. It is John Lasseter and a friend testing the Mater's vehicle. They do seem to be borrowing "trackless" control technology from aquatopia for Luigi's. Both rides look like they will be a blast!
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    Re: Mater's Junkyard Jamboree Vehicle Prototype Test

    Quote Originally Posted by bfdf55 View Post
    The one in the Hawaiian shirt looks like Lasseter.

    If they use a tractor to pull the “trailer” around an elaborate figure 8 (or 16, or whatever), it should provide some significant whip effects.

    One question I have for the concept as a whole is: in the movie, the "tractors" play the roles of cows, as in "cow tipping". Why would these cow/tractors be pulling trailers through a junk yard?
    Lasseter is one of the two ride testers. Looks like he's having the time of his life, too.

    I'm not certain but what tractor tipping might end up a part of the ride, as well. So far, we've only seen the ride vehicle (in motion) from the perspective of the trailer...not the tractor.
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    Re: Mater's Junkyard Jamboree Vehicle Prototype Test

    Quote Originally Posted by thedude View Post
    nice... Cant wait till 2012! We finally will get a second theme park in california.

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    Re: Mater's Junkyard Jamboree Vehicle Prototype Test

    Here ya go, problem solved!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dland_lover View Post
    Here ya go, problem solved!

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