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    Re: Too Crowded a simple idea

    Throw enough money at a park and it becomes simple enough, they cut so much money from California Adventure which is why it became complicated and well a bad park from the get go.

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    Re: Too Crowded a simple idea

    Quote Originally Posted by Magus View Post
    Throw enough money at a park and it becomes simple enough, they cut so much money from California Adventure which is why it became complicated and well a bad park from the get go.
    Lots of money != amazing creativity

    Look at Disneyland itself: minimal money + huge amounts of creativity = great park

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    Re: Too Crowded a simple idea

    ^That's somewhat true, but you can't do Disney style rides without loads of money, especially these days.
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    Re: Too Crowded a simple idea

    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Bob View Post
    ^That's somewhat true, but you can't do Disney style rides without loads of money, especially these days.

    And we certainly can't build things as fast as Disneyland was built with all the labor laws, unions, contractors, etc etc.

    Time is money.


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    Re: Too Crowded a simple idea

    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Bob View Post
    ^That's somewhat true, but you can't do Disney style rides without loads of money, especially these days.
    I totally agree. Technology is expensive.

    My point was that you don't automatically get something great by throwing tons of money at it. In fact, if you throw too much money at something, you can get complacent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojave View Post
    I totally agree. Technology is expensive.

    My point was that you don't automatically get something great by throwing tons of money at it. In fact, if you throw too much money at something, you can get complacent.
    Absolutely true, the good thing we've got going for us right now is that they have to be feeling some pressure to redeem themselves from the first DCA with the new projects. That ought to keep them from getting complacent at least for the next few years I would hope.
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    Re: Too Crowded a simple idea

    Disney Park = Simple?



    Think about it, look at all the work you need to do to design a new park. First, you have to find a central theme, then you have to create sub lands based on that theme. After this Imagineers to research trips to make the areas as authentic as possible. Next they go into designing and this takes years! If you really think it is simple, you are clueless on disney parks.

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    Re: Too Crowded a simple idea

    Quote Originally Posted by ICe101 View Post
    Disney Park = Simple?



    Think about it, look at all the work you need to do to design a new park. First, you have to find a central theme, then you have to create sub lands based on that theme. After this Imagineers to research trips to make the areas as authentic as possible. Next they go into designing and this takes years! If you really think it is simple, you are clueless on disney parks.
    They would have to do all that? Man, thanks for clearing that up. I felt so clueless before you enlighted us.
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    Re: Too Crowded a simple idea

    Quote Originally Posted by Smontalvo1489 View Post
    I'm not an annual passholder... so i like the promos :-)
    well yeah promos are pretty awesome! but im sorry, 5 or 6 at a time is a little much, dont you think?


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    Re: Too Crowded a simple idea

    Quote Originally Posted by ICe101 View Post
    Disney Park = Simple?



    Think about it, look at all the work you need to do to design a new park. First, you have to find a central theme, then you have to create sub lands based on that theme. After this Imagineers to research trips to make the areas as authentic as possible. Next they go into designing and this takes years! If you really think it is simple, you are clueless on disney parks.
    Oh yes they did so much work in designing a theme for California Adventure rofl.

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    Re: Too Crowded a simple idea

    Quote Originally Posted by Smontalvo1489 View Post
    i too dont think its hot enough in California to sustain a successful, year round water park.
    Ummm...there are a lot of year-round, successful water parks in SoCal...such as Soak City and Raging Waters.

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    Re: Too Crowded a simple idea

    Quote Originally Posted by Magus View Post
    Oh yes they did so much work in designing a theme for California Adventure rofl.
    Exactly, and see what we get.

    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Bob View Post
    They would have to do all that? Man, thanks for clearing that up. I felt so clueless before you enlighted us.
    Why am I being scrutinized? I understand that you know, yet our friend Magnus here just thinks it is so easy...

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    Re: Too Crowded a simple idea

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Green View Post
    well yeah promos are pretty awesome! but im sorry, 5 or 6 at a time is a little much, dont you think?
    YEa that is a little much, but they honestly care about bring in in the dough just as much as the next guy. And even with these extra day give away, they are getting more draw than they would have without it in my opinion. Those looking to take a week long vacation who cant at a regular price because they don't have the luxury of paying for a week long vacation, can now save some money and make it a possibility. Those are all families who may not have gone this summer without the promo.

    Who knows.

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    Re: Too Crowded a simple idea

    Quote Originally Posted by Smontalvo1489 View Post
    I'm not an annual passholder... so i like the promos :-)
    please be careful.....I am sure you didnt intend this post to sound like ap bashing, but I interpreted as such. I am an ap holder and confession time: I dont always use it. I do buy park hoppers......... also, there are ap holders that are nice people

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    Re: Too Crowded a simple idea

    Quote Originally Posted by disneyfan07 View Post
    please be careful.....I am sure you didnt intend this post to sound like ap bashing, but I interpreted as such. I am an ap holder and confession time: I dont always use it. I do buy park hoppers......... also, there are ap holders that are nice people


    I'm an AP holder and didn't find Smontalvo's post implying anything than what he wrote. Promos are good for people who don't have passes.


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