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Old 06-09-2009, 09:58 PM   #241
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Re: new dragon broke before the first show.

UGHGH...

That sucks. Badly. After all of that hype!

There goes that Friday trip.
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Old 06-09-2009, 10:00 PM   #242
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They've been showing that all week; apparently, marketing thinks the dragon works...
Marketing just does their thing no matter what. That often results in projects being short cut, rushed or even modified to fit marketing purposes instead of original creative intent.
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Old 06-09-2009, 10:12 PM   #243
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Re: new dragon will be delayed

Not really. I was expecting some sort of mechanical issue with the Dragon for a while, but I didn't expect it to break down 4 days before it's debut. Hopefully they'll burn moonlight to get the dragon fixed ASAP.
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instead of original creative intent.
not to be mean but sometimes I strive to discover any intent or thought that was put into some attractions.

I also don't believe in purely blaming marketing... many concepts are heavily laden with marketing ploys just to get the green light to begin with. You can't blame marketing if the creativity is stripped out before it even gets there.
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Old 06-09-2009, 10:31 PM   #245
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Exactly... a Laker game?
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You were watching a Laker Game?

Oh... I mean... they showed the Fantasmic Dragon?

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Re: new dragon broke before the first show.

They could have delayed the Summer Nightastic Campaign when the Dragon is completely tested and ready. Even with the head falling off when operated. A bit too early to start campaign when a flaw happens.
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Remember awhile back when the Getty Center reopened and it was flooded with so many people that Getty launched an advertising campaign asking people NOT to visit? Now, let's say that Disney knows that there has been a lot of hype about this new show and thousands upon thousands of people were planning on flocking out on the first night to go see it... Guest Control / City Hall Nightastic Nightmare! Well now, Disney can't exactly ask people not to visit the parks on a certain day, that just wouldn't work. BUT, say they "leak" out a rumor that the star performer won't be appearing on the first night... think it might keep a few people away from the parks?

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Yes.. Guest Control is going to be fun that night.. ha ha haaa
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Starts Thursday for us because of the media event.. I have to pick up that lovely outfit tomorrow.
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Re: new dragon broke before the first show.

Techno-dependence rears its ugly head. This is why simpler is sometimes better. Sure, the head on a stick may not have been as impressive as a fully AA dragon, but it worked reliably for 15 years. The tall Maleficent was a failsafe used infrequently. I think we're going to start seeing it a lot more often now.

In fact, it's already happening. The LA Times article just said we'll have tall Maleficent until further notice. This may be one time where I'd vote for Omnimovers on Indy.
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I think it sucks since the Dragon is the only new thing I REALLY want to see...the other new effects are cool but the Dragon is what would make me wait and see the first show.
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The commercial with the dragon just aired during the Laker game. So, they haven't stopped it yet, and a lot of locals just saw it.
Maybe my knowledge of how commercials are aired is limited, but that's just a setup for failure.
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Maybe my knowledge of how commercials are aired is limited, but that's just a setup for failure.
They want to Promote Disneyland how could that be a setup for failure. Fantasmic has been reimagined so boo hoo if they do not have the Dragon on the few couple shows. There are still the eels and the croc and Many locals haven't visited Disneyland for years. It was just last year that they added New Fireworks and HD projectors. I think that Dragon might be delayed but way shorter than we might think. We all have to have a little patience and believe in the magic.
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Re: new dragon broke before the first show.

Crowds on Sunday are going to be BAD BAD BAD BAD. Well I was just in on my local supermarket and they have sold out of Annual Passes and 3day park hoppers. UH OH well this gives me an Idea gotta go _____________zip
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Old 06-10-2009, 03:49 AM   #255
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Re: new dragon broke before the first show.

What Disney needs to do is forget about returning it to the original outsourced manufacturer and ship straight to WDI for repair and modification. Make the manufacturer pay for the mistake and get it back up and running soon.
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