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    Re: WDW Monorail Wreck and its Effect on Disneyland

    I was at the park this morning, they were running 1 train only, Monorail Blue.
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    Re: WDW Monorail Wreck and its Effect on Disneyland

    Have they gotten the new monorails in california to work right yet?

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    Re: WDW Monorail Wreck and its Effect on Disneyland

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostbuster626 View Post
    Have they gotten the new monorails in california to work right yet?
    As far as the window issue, it looks like they come up with a solution.

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    Re: WDW Monorail Wreck and its Effect on Disneyland

    Quote Originally Posted by Young at Heart View Post
    I was at the park this morning, they were running 1 train only, Monorail Blue.
    Most likely due to a mechanical problem with Orange and not related to the WDW incident
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    Re: WDW Monorail Wreck and its Effect on Disneyland

    Quote Originally Posted by Code90 View Post
    I don't recall WDW closing their Big Thunder ride the day someone was killed on the one at DL.

    Closing the DL monorail would not make sense in that regard.

    There will be evaluations, but it shouldn't warrant a closure.
    Not commenting on whether it would make sense or not. Just saying it might be a good move in the public eye for DLR to do this rather than having it appear in a newpaper article that it was just biz as usual on the west coast. To the casual observer, it might seem a very uncaring position for them to take considering that an employee was killed on the job. I'd think DLR would be smarter than that considering the aformention Big Thunder tragedy....and the Columbia one as well. Those weren't very long ago and may still be fresh in the minds of the news-watching public.

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    Re: WDW Monorail Wreck and its Effect on Disneyland

    i know i mentioned it in the other thread but some of the "Rumors" are now spilling into this thread. I really believe that before people start speculating on what happened to cause the accident i feel we should refrain from spreading information that has not been verified.

    no one knows for sure that monorail central was at fault or whether it was a computer or human error and investigation i s still going on.

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    Re: WDW Monorail Wreck and its Effect on Disneyland

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostbuster626 View Post
    Have they gotten the new monorails in california to work right yet?
    Pretty much. Blue had the half windows today, which it did not the last time I saw it, so that should fix the ventilation issue. I've seen Orange and Blue running pretty regularly together.

    Today was a pretty light day, I got to the park about 8:30 and got right on Blue without waiting. Not sure if that was the result of light crowds or people concerned about the WDW accident. I left about 11 a.m. and the line at DTD was still pretty light.
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    Re: WDW Monorail Wreck and its Effect on Disneyland

    Question: They had back-up cameras on the Disneyland Mark V fleet from when they had to run one-way operations. Did they put the cameras in the new DL Mark VII trains?

    Do the WDW trains have the backup cameras? Side-view Mirrors alone are not going to cut it, especially at anything above a crawl - and this accident proves that.

    I strongly suspect they didn't - and if that camera was there, it would show that the switch the pilot expected to back through wasn't lined correctly, then would show the parked train sitting in the station...

    I want to hear the recorded radio logs from WDW Monorail Ops - did anyone try to stop the backing train as it headed toward the stopped train in the station?

    Even a shouted "All Stop!" over the radio by anyone should have been enough to halt all trains - then whoever made the Emergency Stop call could take the time to clarify and let everyone else start up again.

    I'll go bring this up in the WDW Forum thread, but some questions involve DL.

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    Re: WDW Monorail Wreck and its Effect on Disneyland

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce Bergman View Post
    Question: They had back-up cameras on the Disneyland Mark V fleet from when they had to run one-way operations. Did they put the cameras in the new DL Mark VII trains?

    Do the WDW trains have the backup cameras? Side-view Mirrors alone are not going to cut it, especially at anything above a crawl - and this accident proves that.

    I strongly suspect they didn't - and if that camera was there, it would show that the switch the pilot expected to back through wasn't lined correctly, then would show the parked train sitting in the station...

    I want to hear the recorded radio logs from WDW Monorail Ops - did anyone try to stop the backing train as it headed toward the stopped train in the station?

    Even a shouted "All Stop!" over the radio by anyone should have been enough to halt all trains - then whoever made the Emergency Stop call could take the time to clarify and let everyone else start up again.

    I'll go bring this up in the WDW Forum thread, but some questions involve DL.

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    The Mark VII's only have cameras and no mirrors.

    WDW's Mark VI's do not have cameras, only mirrors because they can be driven from both the nose and the tail, which brings up the question, why wasn't the driver of pink driving from that side and actually backing up. You don't have to do that with a Mark VI
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    Re: WDW Monorail Wreck and its Effect on Disneyland

    Quote Originally Posted by Code90 View Post
    I don't recall WDW closing their Big Thunder ride the day someone was killed on the one at DL.

    Closing the DL monorail would not make sense in that regard.

    There will be evaluations, but it shouldn't warrant a closure.
    WDW did shut down their version of BTMRR after the fatality for a day, just for your information.
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    Re: WDW Monorail Wreck and its Effect on Disneyland

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric5675 View Post
    WDW did shut down their version of BTMRR after the fatality for a day, just for your information.
    I believe they shut down all four BTM's worldwide, in fact.
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    Re: WDW Monorail Wreck and its Effect on Disneyland

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric5675 View Post
    The Mark VII's only have cameras and no mirrors.

    WDW's Mark VI's do not have cameras, only mirrors because they can be driven from both the nose and the tail, which brings up the question, why wasn't the driver of pink driving from that side and actually backing up. You don't have to do that with a Mark VI
    Because the train had to go forward to clear the TTC platform and the switch, then would need to reverse to go through the switch and over through a different beam and platform at the TTC on their way back to the Barn.

    Unlike most light rail systems there are no walk-through doors on the WDW trains. Unless there was an emergency exit platform walkway alongside the beam at that hold point you can't just get out of one cab and walk to the other.

    You are stuck in the cab backing up until you get back to that other TTC platform, and you could stop and switch to the other (now forward) cab there.

    Unless of course you want to crawl out the emergency roof hatch and walk the top of the train to the other end... (No, Thank You!)

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    Re: WDW Monorail Wreck and its Effect on Disneyland

    Quote Originally Posted by BoogaFrito View Post
    I believe they shut down all four BTM's worldwide, in fact.
    Yes, all BTM's around the world were shut down and modifications where made to all to the "locomotives"; they all lost their second "drive" wheel because of the incident.

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    Re: WDW Monorail Wreck and its Effect on Disneyland

    do any of the overseas resorts have monorails?

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    Re: WDW Monorail Wreck and its Effect on Disneyland

    Quote Originally Posted by gary94080 View Post
    do any of the overseas resorts have monorails?
    Yes, tokyo does (Picture: The Monorail Society)
    http://www.monorails.org/webpix%202/TDL03.jpg

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    I knew they can't walk through. I did not know that the monorail was switching before the incident.
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