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    Re: Halloween Fireworks perception

    I had another thought. What if Chernabog rose behind the castle (like a large version of his Spectro float) and "commanded" projections of ghosts and such on the castle walls for a Night on Bald Mountain sequence?
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    Red Face Re: Halloween Fireworks perception

    Wouldn't it be great if they used a little bit of "Thriller" in the show?? Maybe some classic Vincent Price dialog/laughing??? How about some characters doing the zombie dance in front of the castle?? I'm getting carried away with my imagination......sorry.
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    Re: Halloween Fireworks perception

    gosh i don't know. this could run the gamut from really awesome to really shoddy. we'll just see. it's they're going to run it for over a month straight, however, i imagine it won't be leftover shells or too much recycled segments, though.

    does this mean we'll hear fireworks nearly every night all the way to Nov 1? usually they're just down to weekends when summer's over.
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    Re: Halloween Fireworks perception

    Quote Originally Posted by twobluestripes View Post
    does this mean we'll hear fireworks nearly every night all the way to Nov 1? usually they're just down to weekends when summer's over.
    October and November is in the heart of the Santa Ana Wind season. I honestly think this show will be cancelled quite frequently just because of this. If the fireworks are just shown on the weekends it just may be likely that they will be able to have the full show in its entirety just once or twice during the entire Halloween season.

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    Re: Halloween Fireworks perception

    Quote Originally Posted by DisneyIPresume View Post
    October and November is in the heart of the Santa Ana Wind season. I honestly think this show will be cancelled quite frequently just because of this. If the fireworks are just shown on the weekends it just may be likely that they will be able to have the full show in its entirety just once or twice during the entire Halloween season.
    That's a good point I had forgotten about to be honest it makes sense to have them all week.
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    Re: Halloween Fireworks perception

    Remember has Tink, Magical has Dumbo, and Halloween will have Zero, trust me!

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    Re: Halloween Fireworks perception

    Maybe they can resurrect the zombie Murphy dragon by then.

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    Re: Halloween Fireworks perception

    Quote Originally Posted by AdvFroGuy View Post
    Remember has Tink, Magical has Dumbo, and Halloween will have Zero, trust me!
    I realize they will likely do it... but in order to "see" him he will have to be pretty big. The increased size will likely look "off" to say the least.
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    Re: Halloween Fireworks perception

    I think that would be cool if the tech dept. got some new fixtures for the castle, like projectors to show moving video, or even the best of both worlds, a projector on a moving head, such as Robe Lighting's DigitalSpot 7000 DT. These fixtures could project video such as the dancing skeletons animated cartoon. The addition of these fixtures could also change/add/replace some of the gobos currently being thrown onto the castle for RDCT, when it returns. IIRC, currently DL is using 4 (or is it 6) (Martin) Mac 2000 Performances. You can have custom gobos made for these (or most other moving head fixtures), but they can not move. Yes, if you are nerdy enough (like me) to look up the specs for that light, you will see it has an animation wheel, but that only is for making fire, clouds, and water appear as if it moving. It is simple repetitive movements. Nothing like making the bones of skeletons move.





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    Re: Halloween Fireworks perception

    Quote Originally Posted by techskip View Post
    I realize they will likely do it... but in order to "see" him he will have to be pretty big. The increased size will likely look "off" to say the least.
    I think they can pull it off. If they can pull off a human size fairy flyin thru the sky they can pull off zero. My guess is if there going to make zero he won't be any bigger then dumbo. I wouldn't think they'd have a giant zero if there gona have it

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    Re: Halloween Fireworks perception

    Quote Originally Posted by Goover View Post
    I think it will be a completely new show with no reused segments from previous firework displays.

    Jack Skellington narrating sounds amazing.
    I highly doubt it will be completely new.

    I'm positive they will reuse the Isopar flames from Indy in Remember.

    And I'm 100% positive they will reuse the ghost gobos/projections used during the HM scene in Remember.

    Quote Originally Posted by KAN View Post
    I think that would be cool if the tech dept. got some new fixtures for the castle, like projectors to show moving video, or even the best of both worlds, a projector on a moving head, such as Robe Lighting's DigitalSpot 7000 DT. These fixtures could project video such as the dancing skeletons animated cartoon. The addition of these fixtures could also change/add/replace some of the gobos currently being thrown onto the castle for RDCT, when it returns. IIRC, currently DL is using 4 (or is it 6) (Martin) Mac 2000 Performances. You can have custom gobos made for these (or most other moving head fixtures), but they can not move. Yes, if you are nerdy enough (like me) to look up the specs for that light, you will see it has an animation wheel, but that only is for making fire, clouds, and water appear as if it moving. It is simple repetitive movements. Nothing like making the bones of skeletons move.





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    I believe they replaced the 4 Mac 2000's with Vari-Lite 3000's now. They did this because of the wide zoom degrees Vari-Lites have. But! The moving lights that project gobos on the Matterhorn are still Mac 2000's.

    Anywhom, Digital lighting, like Robes DigitalSpot 7000 or High End Systems DL3 (Digital Lighting - Products - High End Systems) would be great for the castle, but these lights/projectors are larger than normal moving lights and wouldn't fit in the Temptest Tornado 2300 weather-proof enclosures already installed by the castle. They would have to upgrade to 2400 enclosures, which aren't cheap. These Digital Lights themselves aren't cheap either, they run about 25-40 thousand each.

    For those of you that have no idea what KAN and I are blabbing about, these lights are used in Space Mountain to project the moving comets and those Dancing Space Stages during Rockin' Space. It's basically a normal LCD project that's able to pan and tilt instead of just being stationary.


    As for a flying Zero, that'd be awesome! But like Techskip said, it'd have to be huge even with the use of the UV Spotlights. Think Dumbo for example, the puppet looks only 3 feet tall from a guests perspective down by the hub, but in reality the puppet is around 10-12 feet tall. For a character smaller than Dumbo, Zero, the perspective would be off. If they build a small puppet/animatronic, it would be too small to view. If they make it large like Dumbo, it would be too big and out of proportion for the actual size of the character.

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    Re: Halloween Fireworks perception

    At the D23 event "Disneyland U.S.A.", the guy (I think he was in charge of the fireworks or something) gave us a bunch of facts about the firework shows they do at Disneyland and then answered a few questions. Hallowishes came up and he told us it would be pretty much the same as the Florida soundtrack just with different effects.

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    Re: Halloween Fireworks perception

    Quote Originally Posted by DisneyLD View Post
    As for a flying Zero, that'd be awesome! But like Techskip said, it'd have to be huge even with the use of the UV Spotlights. Think Dumbo for example, the puppet looks only 3 feet tall from a guests perspective down by the hub, but in reality the puppet is around 10-12 feet tall. For a character smaller than Dumbo, Zero, the perspective would be off. If they build a small puppet/animatronic, it would be too small to view. If they make it large like Dumbo, it would be too big and out of proportion for the actual size of the character.
    Tinkerbell is definitely supposed to be inches tall, but nobody ever complains about her. I think they'd be able to make it work if they wanted to.

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    Just waiting to see the show.
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    Re: Halloween Fireworks perception

    Quote Originally Posted by DisneyLD View Post
    I highly doubt it will be completely new.

    I'm positive they will reuse the Isopar flames from Indy in Remember.

    And I'm 100% positive they will reuse the ghost gobos/projections used during the HM scene in Remember.


    What I meant was that I don't think they will copy a specific segment of piro from past fireworks shows (a segment being a few minutes of replicated show from the past).

    For instance, I don't think they will just toss HM from RDCT into this show. It's a possibility but Disney likes to emphasize fresh, new things.

    Of course i think the fire and projections will be used. It wouldn't be a Halloween show without them .

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