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    Why is Disneyland so much greener than California Adventure?

    So people often talk of how DCA has been lacking since day one, and there's a multitude of reasons, and a major one was how DCA had too much broad open spaces.
    I was looking at a map online and it's crazy how much greener Disneyland is when compared to California Adventure. Just take a look..



    Disneyland has soo much more green, which helps add shade, keep the temperature down in areas with trees, and it just looks better!
    Now, perhaps it's simply that Disneyland has had a nearly 50 year head start on DCA, but I still see large areas with no trees at all. In fact, the only place with any sort of dense tree population is Golden State, and even there it's not that much.
    Maybe I just need to wait a few decades for DCA to catch up, or maybe they need to invest some of that 1 billion+ dollars they're using to redesign DCA to plant a lot more trees.

    What do you guys think?
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    Re: Why is Disneyland so much greener than California Adventure?

    Well, DL does inherently have many more large forrested areas than DCA ... (Jungle, ROA, and the Autopia/Monorail/Rocket Rod noodleswamp in TL). So that helps with that.

    The only real area that would lend itself well thematically to large amount of trees is Golden State ... but if you look at early pics of JC and ROA, they were at about the same level that Golden State is now (plus, Paradise Pier, Sunshine Plaza and HPB don't lend themselves thematically well to large amounts of trees).

    I'd say between Phase II enhancements and 30+ years, Golden State will get there. :P

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    Re: Why is Disneyland so much greener than California Adventure?

    Great topic, this needs to be addressed.

    I personally would deliberately set out to plant as many trees as possible throughout the park. Different species suggest different locales, and you don't want to obstruct certain views or mismatch or overplant. But where ever the landscape imagineers suggested a tree, I'd say was money well spent.

    DCA may be many things but I wouldn't call it shady

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    Re: Why is Disneyland so much greener than California Adventure?

    Well, to be fair, it does take a while for that greenery to grow. Here's a shot from 1955, and I can actually see the path of the JC, not to mention a lot of areas that look like they could use some shade:


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    Re: Why is Disneyland so much greener than California Adventure?

    I also think that it's simply an issue of time. If you look at old pictures of Disneyland it also looks barren. For example:



    As you can see, even Main Street, which most people probably don't consider a dense forested area of Disneyland, is greatly helped today by the mature trees.

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    Re: Why is Disneyland so much greener than California Adventure?

    Another view from above 5 years later in 1960; some areas are starting to grow in a little better:


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    Re: Why is Disneyland so much greener than California Adventure?

    Quote Originally Posted by DonaldDuckFan68 View Post
    Well, to be fair, it does take a while for that greenery to grow. Here's a shot from 1955, and I can actually see the path of the JC, not to mention a lot of areas that look like they could use some shade:

    Thanks for posting this.

    You need to wait for the trees in DCA to grow. If you look at old footage of the ROA for example you will see that the trees there were very small compared to today.

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    Re: Why is Disneyland so much greener than California Adventure?

    Wow. great pics guys. Disneyland back then looks far worse than California Adventure when it comes to greenery.

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    Re: Why is Disneyland so much greener than California Adventure?

    The one main area in DCA where trees should and need to be planted is Bug's Land. Not really Flik's Fun Fair for obvious reasons, but the lack of green in an area that supposed to be insect "themed" is sort of ridiculous. Sunshine Plaza can use a few more trees also.

    Other than that, I kind of like how the park is open. You definitely notice when a breeze hits the park, and it's really nice. I can't say that for Disneyland sometimes since everything is so closely placed.
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    Re: Why is Disneyland so much greener than California Adventure?

    Yes, it is amazing to see the old photos/footage of Disneyland. It looks so naked!! DCA does need more greenery... it makes the park so much more homey and cools it off. Everything just looks better. I think DL could still use some help in planting some trees in Toontown, and even Tomorrowland. (The addition of the seating/greenery area in front of SM was a nice touch). Thanks for the pics!! I love the history stuff!!

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    Re: Why is Disneyland so much greener than California Adventure?

    For those who care, some more tree-less Disneyland pictures

    Rivers of America. Not sure exactly what building that is in the back...



    Harbor Boulevard!!



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    Re: Why is Disneyland so much greener than California Adventure?

    Also you have to understand that socal at least is a desert so giant trees wouldn't lend themselves to themeing. And because of the "green" movent sweeping the entire resort expect dca especially to have more draught tolerant plants and tree's.

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    Re: Why is Disneyland so much greener than California Adventure?

    Quote Originally Posted by jett View Post
    Rivers of America. Not sure exactly what building that is in the back...
    I believe that was the former Chicken Plantation.

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    Re: Why is Disneyland so much greener than California Adventure?

    Old Disneyland pictures are always so fantastic! Especially for someone like me that was born 25 years after it opened. DCA certainly does need more shade but trees do take time to grow so that has hindered the park obviously.

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    Re: Why is Disneyland so much greener than California Adventure?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ruiner View Post
    Also you have to understand that socal at least is a desert so giant trees wouldn't lend themselves to themeing. And because of the "green" movent sweeping the entire resort expect dca especially to have more draught tolerant plants and tree's.
    For greenbelts outside the parks themselves and the hotels, sure.
    Doesn't apply to themed areas.

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