Disney's America?

[Steve DeGaetano]

If its so high then how come in the TEA report its not that high? Not even top 25!

Well, Knott's and Magic Mountain aren't in the top 25 either; neither is Cedar Point, for that matter...so by that logic, I guess we should assume they're just not all that popular.

On a final and last note. The idea simply sounds boring. I dont want to go to a disney history lesson and would much rather if im travelling to the east cost go to WDW then DA.

Then I wonder why you enjoy Disneyland--one of the basic tenets of its very existence was to educate.

[LittleImagineer]

IMHO, the only Disney park they wil actually flourish and was built right is Disneyland! They sad truth is that if Imagineers could mess up DCA then they surely will have messed up DA. The only person who is completely capable of creating an amuesment park and making it fabulous is Walt Disney and his team of orginal Imagineers

[LittleImagineer]

Plus, a lot of DA would have sucked because Disney would have to make it "politically correct" and you can't accurately tell history when everything is suppose to be "politically correct"

[Steve DeGaetano]

The only person who is completely capable of creating an amuesment park and making it fabulous is Walt Disney and his team of orginal Imagineers

Kind of a sad thought coming from someone who claims to be a "future imaginer" in their signature.

[Theophilus Carter]

The only person who is completely capable of creating an amuesment park and making it fabulous is Walt Disney and his team of orginal Imagineers

Tokyo DisneySea.

[LittleImagineer]

Tokyo DisneySea.

Yup, and that seems like the only one besides Disneyland that they didn't fail with. I was really dissappointed when I went to WDW. Even the MK wasn't as great as Disneyland. I didn't like the lay out of the MK, it was so strange. I've never been to Disneyland Paris but I've heard that it isn't that great and neither is Disneyland Hong Kong.
Yes, I do hope to become an Imagineer. I hope to improve these Disney parks that failed and I hope to make all sorts of new rides that everyone can enjoy. Maybe by the time I'm an Imagineer things will have changed. It's still my passion to become an Imagineer and share my ideas with everyone

[CaliforniaAdventurer]

Well, Knott's and Magic Mountain aren't in the top 25 either; neither is Cedar Point, for that matter...so by that logic, I guess we should assume they're just not all that popular.



Then I wonder why you enjoy Disneyland--one of the basic tenets of its very existence was to educate.

Noooooo! Please don't make me learn nothin'.
We want everything dumbed down and character branded!

[lazyboy97O]

IMHO, the only Disney park they wil actually flourish and was built right is Disneyland! They sad truth is that if Imagineers could mess up DCA then they surely will have messed up DA. The only person who is completely capable of creating an amuesment park and making it fabulous is Walt Disney and his team of orginal Imagineers

You've obviously never been to Disney's Animal Kingdom, EPCOT Center or Disneyland Paris.

[PhillyFan89]

IMHO, the only Disney park they wil actually flourish and was built right is Disneyland! They sad truth is that if Imagineers could mess up DCA then they surely will have messed up DA. The only person who is completely capable of creating an amuesment park and making it fabulous is Walt Disney and his team of orginal Imagineers

There are several problems that I have with this statement. First off, let me start by saying that the Imagineers certainly are not the ones who messed up DCA. DCA was messed up by Paul Pressler and Barry Braverman, the executives put in charge of building California Adventure, who were only concerned about their own corporate positions and continually slashed the budgets that DCA would have needed to be a park that deserved to be built in Disneyland's old parking lot. The Imagineers are every bit capable of designing a brilliant theme park with equally brilliant rides and attractions. But those ambitious plans require cash. LOTS of cash. OLC type cash. When you let the Imagineers go all out, they will blow your mind. But Disney is a buisness, and for executives like Pressler and Braverman, all that matters is the bottom line. I agree with what you said about Walt. He was willing to go all out and spend every last dollar to make his dream come true and give the people who came to his park what they deserved. That's simply wasn't the way it was when they were building California Adventure. Hopefully, they understand now that we won't accept sub-par attractions anymore.

[CaliforniaAdventurer]

You've obviously never been to Disney's Animal Kingdom, EPCOT Center or Disneyland Paris.

We get along so much better in the Disneyland forum.

[lazyboy97O]

There are several problems that I have with this statement. First off, let me start by saying that the Imagineers certainly are not the ones who messed up DCA. DCA was messed up by Paul Pressler and Barry Braverman, the executives put in charge of building California Adventure, who were only concerned about their own corporate positions and continually slashed the budgets that DCA would have needed to be a park that deserved to be built in Disneyland's old parking lot. The Imagineers are every bit capable of designing a brilliant theme park with equally brilliant rides and attractions. But those ambitious plans require cash. LOTS of cash. OLC type cash. When you let the Imagineers go all out, they will blow your mind. But Disney is a buisness, and for executives like Pressler and Braverman, all that matters is the bottom line. I agree with what you said about Walt. He was willing to go all out and spend every last dollar to make his dream come true and give the people who came to his park what they deserved. That's simply wasn't the way it was when they were building California Adventure. Hopefully, they understand now that we won't accept sub-par attractions anymore.

Barry Braverman was an Imagineer. Money is not the key to creative success, its nice, but its mere presence does not create success.

We get along so much better in the Disneyland forum.

So true.

[ChessurInWonderland]

We get along so much better in the Disneyland forum.

Isnt this the dl forum?

[lazyboy97O]

Isnt this the dl forum?

We frequently but heads in the Debate Lounge.

[CaliforniaAdventurer]

Sorry but I can't agree with the guy on anything in the world outside the gates, but we seem to share the same views on what direction Disney should take.

It was like epiphany. Okay, I'm going too far, sorry!

[yoyoflamingo]

Yup, and that seems like the only one besides Disneyland that they didn't fail with. I was really dissappointed when I went to WDW. Even the MK wasn't as great as Disneyland. I didn't like the lay out of the MK, it was so strange. I've never been to Disneyland Paris but I've heard that it isn't that great and neither is Disneyland Hong Kong.
Yes, I do hope to become an Imagineer. I hope to improve these Disney parks that failed and I hope to make all sorts of new rides that everyone can enjoy. Maybe by the time I'm an Imagineer things will have changed. It's still my passion to become an Imagineer and share my ideas with everyone

Though there are many issues with the MK, I would hardly say it "failed." It needs work, but originally, up until fairly recently, it was magnificent. Just because it has lost its way in recent years doesn't mean it's a failure. Disneyland in the 90's is a prime example of this. And as far as Disneyland Paris, I've never been either, but from what I have read, it's not a failure of the park per se, it's more the refusal to listen to the culture and building too big to start. Unfortunately, this led to the parks like HDKL, DSP, DCA, etc.

EPCOT and DAK are truly superb parks, still. And MK has lost its way, but I am hoping things are beginning to change there are well.

And out of curiosity, what make the MK so weird? It's practically the same as DL.

For us on the East Coast, Disney's America would have been a nice 6-7 hour drive, doable in a day, and less costly than the flight to FL. I was looking forward to it coming, personally.

And in relation to Disney's America, isn't the site originally intended for the park a Walmart now? I vaguely remember reading that somewhere.