Condor Flats in 2012?

[techskip]

It's been touched upon in other threads but as of right now there is no clear indication as to what will happen to Condor Flats leading up to the opening of Carsland in 2012.

Condor Flats is a bit of a hodge podge of avation history. Upon entering you are greeted with an early 1950's jet fighter. In front of Soarin lies a modern rocket engine. Soarin' itself is a hang-glider flight over modern CA. Towards the back of Condor Flats you'll find an old Army trailer and another semi modern plane. So in theory the only real "theme" to Condor Flats is the desert itself. The main question is will it remain a desert sub-land when Carsland opens? Condor flats was initially designed to represent the deserts of California but Carsland will be able to display this landscape on a much larger scale. Carsland will have intricate rockwork and highly detailed desert themes. So what is to become of DCA's original desert? If it becomes the forest then the aviation is even more out of place. The reason the desert was full of runways is because it's flat and has minimal obstructions. Forests by definition are full of trees and at times hilly, not exactly ideal for runways (can be built but generally avoided)... so what do all of you think Disney will do? Will they have 2 desert themed areas? Will they combine what was Condor Flats into Carsland (which I don't believe is possible given the requirement that Carsland be only Cars based)? Will it be an expansion of the forest?... Hopefully those in WDI thought about this because it is an interesting question.

[ChessurInWonderland]

That's a good question =o Who knows? It'll be odd to have two deserts on opposite ends of the park, both centered around vehicles.

[Rob™]

I believe that Condor Flats will be rethemed
and integrated with the lush wilderness theme
that Grizzly Peak currently has.

And possibly, hopefully, be re-named as well.

Now as far as the aviation references, I agree Tech.
It will be fairly odd and off. Only thing that
may happen is if the show building will be
re-painted and lose some of the modern
elements.

Especially if the Teddy Roosevelt time period
is implimented into the area.

[Mike_M]

Soarin' itself is a hang-glider flight over modern CA.

Hang gliders are usually flown over wooded areas so if done right, it's possible that Soarin could be even more thematically correct in a forest setting.

[Mojave]

As much as I love the theme of Condor Flats (I took my username from the desert) and anything aviation, it is such a small enclosed "land", that even if it remains unchanged once Ca... Radiator Springs debuts, I don't think it will be that big a deal. You've got the desert and cars and then you've got a small aviation area.

But I'm sure Phase 2 or even Phase 1.5 will bring it under the larger Grizzly Peak theme.

[DisneyPro]

I like what I see here:

[Sir Didymus]

^ I know what I'm looking at in that artwork, but I'm not really sure what's going on...

[CaliforniaAdventurer]

Hang gliders are usually flown over wooded areas so if done right, it's possible that Soarin could be even more thematically correct in a forest setting.

High five and a fist bump.

[CaliforniaAdventurer]

Now, explain the monorail, either in the desert or in the forest.

[techskip]

Hang gliders are usually flown over wooded areas so if done right, it's possible that Soarin could be even more thematically correct in a forest setting.

desert, forest, beach... they're flown anywhere there is wind. The comment wasn't meant to detract from the desert theme or impede on the forest theme... it was meant to demonstrate the time period confusion of Condor Flats (1950's jet, modern rocket engine, modern CA flyover, semi-modern plane, 1940's communications trailer etc...)

[CaliforniaAdventurer]

AND there are no condors. Why do they call it that, and then have no reference to the condor?

[CaliforniaAdventurer]

I like what I see here:

I like that there's no BURRR-BANK ICE CREAM train.

[DisneyPro]

I like that there's no BURRR-BANK ICE CREAM train.

Agreed

[techskip]

AND there are no condors. Why do they call it that, and then have no reference to the condor?

I believe the reference was to the legitimacy of it being "California" desert land. Condor Flats, like Grizzly Peak, is named after what was once a native icon of California. Condors are now trying to make a comeback. California Grizzlies have been considered "extinct" for some time now, although some within the community believe this may be inaccurate.

[techskip]

I like what I see here:

One "issue" I have with this is that it doesn't address a fundamental problem... lack of non height based attractions between the entrance and Redwood Creek. The picture basically looks like a hanger trapped behind trees with other stores around it (making 0 sense from a thematic standpoint). Poor WDI doesn't have a creative Pixar movie to bail them out of this one... I guess it means they need to make a Pixar movie about the forest now so we can makeover that area too!