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Old 11-04-2009, 12:26 AM   #1096
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I wonder if a white light on the screen would serve to help the colours appear more vividly.
No. Any light that contaminates the video picture will just degrade the image. But it could be that bright white light emanating from the water is an effect in the show.
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No. Any light that contaminates the video picture will just degrade the image. But it could be that bright white light emanating from the water is an effect in the show.
It makes me think of Fantasmic's light in the very beginning, only under the water, and probably not quite as bright. That might actually be sort of cool if they did that(of course I am admittedly biased towards things that relate to Fantasmic, though).
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No. Any light that contaminates the video picture will just degrade the image. But it could be that bright white light emanating from the water is an effect in the show.
Fair enough, it would just wash it out.

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Ok, I just wanted to update people on a bit of information that I am beginning to understand from watching the world of color preview videos (from the D23 convention) over and over again trying to figure out the details. When Steven is talking about the projection surfaces, he first talks about the back projection surface. On the blueprints, it is a distinct purple line and he specifically calls it a projection screen. Right after that he talks about the front one, he simply calls it a projection surface and it's not the same purple color, but rather the same color as some of the other fountains that are shown on the blueprints. I may just be being paranoid, but I think that the rear projection surface will be a mist screen, but that the front surface will be the moving founatains that they will utilize as a surface for projecting onto. Also, if you look back at their demo reel, if you look really closely, you can see them projecting things onto a screen that is in fact not coming from a single point, but rather multiple semi-triangular shaped fans of water/mist which would not be a regular mist screen.

Here's the part where you can see him talking about the screens at the beginning:

And the demo reel is at about 6:00 into this video. The very beginning has the normal mist screen, but look at 7:50 and look at the bottom of the projection. Fountains, not the mist screen is making that surface.

So that's all I've got, but I thought I'd share that and hopefully that'll shed some light on that front projection surface that we haven't seen materialize yet (and adding something more now just doesn't seem feasible to me, so I'm going with my instinct on this one). Let me know what you guys think.
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Re: Disney's California Adventure Project Tracker VIII

I've said for awhile that its possible the downstage (or front) images would be projected onto spray from the grid fountain heads instead of standard mist screens. It's one of the things I am specifically going to look for on my next photo outing. We know where the boxes point, we just need to look out in front of them and see if there are any obvious marks or open spaces in need of equipment. They are still adding things on a daily basis to the platform, including fountain assemblies, so it is still possible that there are more mist screen nozzles planned for those areas. They could even be there and we just haven't noticed yet (doubtful, Macro). Since they will not be as large as the rear screen, they could probably use the standard Grundfos pumps that are already everywhere on the platform.
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I had had stayed away from those videos until now and... WOW!!

I can't wait to see how the final show comes together, WoC really could be the next Disney classic attraction.

Now, I don't know if the question was answered already but, those garden hose attachment looking fountains are Transformer Fountains, Staven talks about them and you can see them at work during the laggon test.
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Your screen name "lighttragic" kind of contradicts your assertion that whatever Disney and their engineers do "will function correctly".
I hear your point however 1997 and the people in charge and the money allocated toward that project is very different from what we are dealing with today. Disney isnt perfect but I dont think this will be a gigantic failure like light magic. As I mentioned before many people are staking alot on this show and I think it will be tweaked and have minor tech issues but in the end the show will be great.
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I agree with lighttragic. This isn't just a parade, or even just a water show. There's a football field of a myriad of fountains, each with their own light source, two mist screens that will span hundreds of feet, multiple projection domes, water whips, fire whips, dozens of high definition projectors, years of planning, a generous T&A phase, its own viewing area is being constructed, and, for goodness sakes, it has nearly the entire Blue Sky Cellar to itself!



Yeah, I think it'll be good.

EDIT: Oh, and did I mention that all footage in the show has been re-animated by Walt Disney Feature Animation for World of Color?
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See how nonconstructive and pointless such a post would be? Sometimes it helps if people invest in the brain <-> keyboard filter. Empty posts are way less interesting to whole audience - then on-topic posts that some may not may not appreciate.
I found the TOPIC to be boring, not ALL of someone's posts.

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I agree with lighttragic. This isn't just a parade, or even just a water show. There's a football field of a myriad of fountains, each with their own light source, two mist screens that will span hundreds of feet, multiple projection domes, water whips, fire whips, dozens of high definition projectors, years of planning, a generous T&A phase, its own viewing area is being constructed, and, for goodness sakes, it has nearly the entire Blue Sky Cellar to itself!



Yeah, I think it'll be good.

EDIT: Oh, and did I mention that all footage in the show has been re-animated by Walt Disney Feature Animation for World of Color?
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I agree with lighttragic. This isn't just a parade, or even just a water show. There's a football field of a myriad of fountains, each with their own light source, two mist screens that will span hundreds of feet, multiple projection domes, water whips, fire whips, dozens of high definition projectors, years of planning, a generous T&A phase, its own viewing area is being constructed, and, for goodness sakes, it has nearly the entire Blue Sky Cellar to itself!



Yeah, I think it'll be good.
Absolutely. Before they decided to add the show, look at how much space was being wasted. The lagoon, itself, and the old amphitheater took up a very large chunk of the park, not just Paradise Pier, and what were they good for? They served almost no purpose.

This show will not only be great, but it will make much better use of the very small amount of precious land that the DLR actually has.
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I have to agree. there is someone on this board that is really boring and sometimes he continues and continues his post are really long...i dont want to mention who he is. I dont read his post...they are so..


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So any new pics of the concrete in viewing area and cars land from today yet?
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Man, I can't wait until Spring! WOC looks amazing!
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since we're currently on the topic of WoC...

World of Color -Show Overview

(warning: long post ahead and major spoilers!)

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Here's something I put together last night -- it's nothing we don't already know, just an organized list that provides an overview of the show with brief scene descriptions. This is the basic layout of the different segments as described by Steven Davison. As he already mentioned, this is the initial roadmap for the show and some segments are subject to change once the actual show opens.


Opening
I. The Magical Light
- Show starts in the audience, sweeps out into the lagoon and enchants the water, making it sparkle.
- Lasers appear; Out of the mist comes the magical light.
- "The Wonderful World of Color" theme song.

II. Tinker Bell Enchants Walt Disney's Words
- "Every Child Is Blessed With A Vivid Imagination" - Walt Disney
- The letter "D" becomes Little Squirt, who makes his first appearance as a little orange fountain.

The Colors of Earth, Sea, Sky
I. The Magical Forest, featuring the Spring Sprite.
- The Spring Sprite flies through the lagoon and enchants the water, creating beautiful trees and flowers.
- She unveils the 400-foot wall of water.

II. River Bend/ Pocahontas
- River made of fountains flows towards the audience
- Segment transitions into "Just Around the River Bend" and "Colors of the Wind"
- Ends with water butterflies and the tunnel of light.

Color in the Storm
I. April Showers
- Heimlich appears and greets the audience, popping up from behind a leaf.
- The Old Mill emerges in the middle of the rain shower, which then becomes a full-color Storm/Lightning display.

Colors of Wonderland
A Technicolor Wonderland!
- Falling Alice lands in Wonderland and meets the White Rabbit, who is done as a white fountain racing across the lagoon.
- The White Rabbit's clock explodes, the numbers fly up against the back wall of water.
- Transition into Card March and Flower Garden segments.
- Cheshire Cat appears and disappears; this is followed by the fountains playing pong with his head.
- Alice's world is swept away by a wave.

Colors of the Sea
I - The Little Mermaid:
- A wave made out of lasers takes us down into the ocean, into the world of the Little Mermaid. "Part of Your World".
- Projection domes first appear, rising out of the water as giant jellyfish.
- "Under the Sea", The fountains dance, Little Squirt guides the way as they all do a conga line.

II . The World of Crush/Finding Nemo
- A big wave brings Crush into view; he takes us surfing, the fountains make the curve of the EAC.
- As Crush splashes out, Marlon and Dory appear - they encounter and talk to a giant whale made entirely out of fountains.

Sailing Through The Stars
- Dory calls the whales. The whales come splashing up, rising from the water and flying out towards the sky; they sail off into the stars.
- The projection domes appear again and transform into planets; LED lights take on a sparkle tone as the lagoon turns into a sea of stars.

Colors of the Universe
I. The World of Wall-e and Eve
- Diana shoots her arrow across the sky, the comet becomes Eve.
- Wall-E and Eve, "Define Dancing".
(Details about this scene were kept secret by Steven, but he described it as a "sumptuous dream in color in the stars".)

II. Infinity and Beyond
- We end up in Andy's room, we see Buzz and Woody on the bed; they argue over whether or not Buzz can fly..
- Buzz flies! and becomes a giant ribbon of water and laser interaction; all the fountains rise up into the sky, with the little green aliens making an appearance as the scene wraps up.
- Carl shows up in his house, they float up into the sky.

III. Aladdin And Jasmine
- As the scene transitions into the sky, we see Aladdin and Jasmine appear out of the clouds. "A Whole New World".
- They sail through the clouds on the magic carpet, the fountains perform a water ballet beneath them.
- They fly off into the full moon.

Color of Fears
I. A Medley of Villains
- Dr. Facilier appears as the full moon begins to get eclipsed.
- Esmeralda emerges as a living piece of fire and then becomes animation as we enter the Hellfire segment.
- The Firebird from Fantasia appears and it is created out of fire and water.
- A drum sequence leads into the Chernabog scene. (not too many details here either, all we know is it will feature a lot of fire!)
- The fire stops, the mist goes from red to green as Scars makes his first appearance. Scar takes us into the next big segment of the show, The Water Stampede.

Fears to Tears
I. The Magical Auroras
- After the stampede and Mufasa's death, we see Dumbo, Bambi, and Simba appear with their families. The aurora borealis lights shine in the background.

II. Transformation
- Belle says, “I love you”, the Beast rises and transforms.
- "So Close" medley from Enchanted plays, as Sleeping Beauty awakens. Snow White is kissed and is awakened.
- All the transformations explode and become the Million Points of Light.

Finale
I. The Kaleidoscope of Color
- All the colorful worlds appear all together and they join into a bright and colorful kaleidoscope finale.
- Tinkerbell once again enchants the words, "If you can dream it, you can do it." - Walt Disney
- This leads into the last finale scene which, at this point, hasn't been revealed yet.
- The fountains take their final bow.

After the show, an encore piece will follow.

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The End! Let me know if I missed anything or if you think anything should be added/removed.
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