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    Re: The Little Bridge into Carnation Plaza Gardens

    Quote Originally Posted by tech4all View Post
    Based on the photo, I have to say the new one on the right is much better. The old one looks way too plain and ugly when compared to the nice stone columns, railing and, the platform.
    I would agree. If a bridge like the new one had gone under refurbishment, and turned out looking more like the old one, then I GUARANTEE there would cries of "decline by degrees".

    The new one is definitely an improvement.
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    Re: The Little Bridge into Carnation Plaza Gardens

    I haven't seen it in person but the picture looks nice. I know from experience that there have been multiple incidents on that bridge and I am not shocked that they raised the railing and closed the gaps. Over time the wood and stone will weather and at some point years from now people will comment on how well it simply "blends in".

    A real eye opener was when they redid the Jungle dock... brand new wood looks a LOT different from old weathered wood! Once the bridge goes through a few seasons it will cease to be as shocking as it is right now.
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    Re: The Little Bridge into Carnation Plaza Gardens

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve DeGaetano View Post
    If safety and lawsuit-avoidance are going to continue being used to justifying the removal of every subtle Park detail, then perhaps it would be easier just to institute a new dress code for guest safety:

    Notice how the eyes are completely open and unobstructed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve DeGaetano View Post
    yes...as you note, it's a fence. Surrounding a park. Not a bridge railing.

    There is a bridge shown later in the Jolly Holliday sequence, and it looks nothing like this...fence.
    nice counter...

    Personally I think it was designed to maintain the time period while making the bridge a little less friendly to those who like to climb/sit on the rails.
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    Re: The Little Bridge into Carnation Plaza Gardens

    Quote Originally Posted by MrToadOfToadHall View Post
    If all they had done was some maintenance and replacement of a few rotten pieces of wood, they probably could have left it the same. However, current structural codes are much different than they were in 1955. As was mentioned earlier, the space between railing rungs must be no more than 4" and there is a specific height that has to be reached as well, depending upon the potential fall. These newer codes apply to any public structure, including apartment complexes and the like. While you can all scream about change, it isn't Disney who has caused this. It's the law. The bridge was 55 years old and needed full replacement. Given that, they had no choice but to bring it up to current code.
    Mr. Toad - Thanks for the info. (I missed it earlier.) This makes sense, and it would render the declining by degrees argument moot. If Disney really had no choice in the matter, then I'd say replacement is rather nice...considering they have specific guidelines that they are stuck with.

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    Re: The Little Bridge into Carnation Plaza Gardens

    It looks nicer, has more detail.. Anyone who says it is a decline must be smoking something...






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    Re: The Little Bridge into Carnation Plaza Gardens

    Quote Originally Posted by techskip View Post
    Notice how the eyes are completely open and unobstructed.
    Nice reference.

    Personally, I like the charm of the old bridge. However, the new bridge doesn't look bad in the picture. And considering they probably had to do it for safety reasons I don't feel it is a decline by degrees.
    Last edited by DsnyRnr; 11-24-2009 at 04:31 PM. Reason: Fixed quote





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    Re: The Little Bridge into Carnation Plaza Gardens

    This looks much improved to me. I have always neglected that little bridge, but when we visit next April/May, I'm going to make a special point of traipsing across the Little Bridge into Carnation Plaza Gardens. Thank you for this thread!

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    Re: The Little Bridge into Carnation Plaza Gardens

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve DeGaetano View Post
    yes...as you note, it's a fence. Surrounding a park. Not a bridge railing.

    There is a bridge shown later in the Jolly Holliday sequence, and it looks nothing like this...fence.
    Touché

    As is often the case, I think this 'argument' simply boils down to a matter of taste. Some people will like the old look and some will like the new look. Feel free to disagree, but that's my stance on the matter, and I shall say no more.
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    Re: The Little Bridge into Carnation Plaza Gardens

    Quote Originally Posted by techskip View Post
    Notice how the eyes are completely open and unobstructed.
    The eyes may technically be open and unobstructed, but wow, does that kid look like he's been smoking some major wacky tobaccy.

    Good thing he's protected because he looks like he could just fall over at any time.
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    Re: The Little Bridge into Carnation Plaza Gardens

    The true test of safety this Christmas is whether or not that kid can put his arms down...

    Again for anyone passing judgment on the bridge I would recommend waiting at least a year until this new gem is weathered. At that point it will likely blend in, it's hard stone and polished wood weathered by nature.
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    Re: The Little Bridge into Carnation Plaza Gardens

    Quote Originally Posted by BassBone View Post
    The other thing that bugs me is it breaks up the visual flow of the area. The rock columns block the view into the Carnation Plaza Gardens and make seem walled off from the rest of the Hub.
    I agree.
    seems boxed in.
    There's no open feel anymore.
    At least the keep the old signage.
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    Re: The Little Bridge into Carnation Plaza Gardens

    It's probably not real stone and it's probably pressure treated particle board Just sayin'

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    Re: The Little Bridge into Carnation Plaza Gardens

    Charm is gone.

    Safety is ensured.

    And it all looks GREAT.

    (was that what this was about? How nice it looked?)

    Enjoy.

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    Re: The Little Bridge into Carnation Plaza Gardens

    It doesn't look good. It looks prefab. If they'd had custom wrought iron it would have looked better. The stone columns, however, kill it for me.
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    Re: The Little Bridge into Carnation Plaza Gardens

    Quote Originally Posted by Disney Analyst View Post
    It looks nicer, has more detail.. Anyone who says it is a decline must be smoking something...
    When the Mark Twain receives similar railings (the ones on the ship are quite low, you know. Perhaps you should alert the authorities!), then perhaps you will see the decline. But you won't. You'll think it looks great. More detail!

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