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    Re: HollywoodLand?

    Okie... so we can all agree that we want a REAL land that represents a real time and place. A time capsule, if you will.

    But are we still divided on how strict it will be? (no modern movies or yes modern movies?)


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    Re: HollywoodLand?

    See that is where my other thought comes in. What you see on the outside can somehow be linked to whatever you want on the inside. Sure, a great movie ride would be optimal, but if the queue properly transports you, anything is possible. Just as the drop in Pirates was said to "take [guests] down a waterfall and take them back into the past." The rides are not restricted to the timelimits of the park, but they do need to be properly related and transitioned.
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    Re: HollywoodLand?

    ok well i'm kinda late on this but my thought (and really i just thought of this 10 seconds ago)

    like make hollywoodland more back in the day when people say that hollywood was really such a grand place

    i'm thinking that's like in the 30's or 40's or something i don't really know

    (just my thought. i watched the holiday not too long ago and the way the old man talks about hollywood made me wish i was there to live it)
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    Re: HollywoodLand?

    Quote Originally Posted by GummiBears_Rock View Post
    ok well i'm kinda late on this but my thought (and really i just thought of this 10 seconds ago)

    like make hollywoodland more back in the day when people say that hollywood was really such a grand place

    i'm thinking that's like in the 30's or 40's or something i don't really know

    (just my thought. i watched the holiday not too long ago and the way the old man talks about hollywood made me wish i was there to live it)


    A quick recap of the whole thread is basically "yeah, that's kind of what we're all thinking too".

    The divide is how strict people want the theme to be. Some are saying that because it's 1930s time period, there shouldn't be anything Muppets or Monsters Inc, etc.

    For me... I think that's impossible to ask. There are ways to make it work and I think that's the best route to take. Hollywoodland should be the idea that it was in the 20s-40s, but treating modern films as they did in the past.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TrevorD View Post
    When I say specific time period, I mean an age. Periods in terms of history can be millions of years, but the period I was suggesting is the golden age of film from the 20's to the late 50's.

    When I say "when it comes to representations of real places, a specific time period provides guidance" I mean that you need to have a narrower timeframe so that things like the exteriors of buildings and the lamposts all match each other, and the era being represented throughout the land. Mixing modern architecture with architecture from the 1900's would be tacky. I know that it would be bad to limit the land to how a specific section of Hollywood looked on December 22nd, 1942, but an era of events and architecture is needed for cohesiveness. Also, I know that the whole area will "idealized" as Disney always is, but that should not take away from the realism that specifies the period.

    Also, turn of the century was totally a specific era both in architecture and history. the world changed in leaps and bounds during that time period.
    I think we're just going to have to agree to dissagree on this one

    I outside of Mainstreet and maybe frontierland I don't really get too much a period specific vibe in Disneyland except I suppose a "not right now" feel. I have no problem with a park having a "right now" feel to it though as long as it cuts out most of the blatant commercialisum and just goes for the fun and Adventure.

    I'm also already growing used the the company loosing comitiment on these things. Probably why I didn't groan at the awesome lighting on the Mickey Wheel because it honestly is a cool new element to put on a classic ride (though I DO wish it'd gotten a more period designed queue).


    I think Disney could easily combine the old with the new and I even think there are parts of LA that do it just fine when the designers try rather then just ignoring setting and throwing posters and ads over everything.


    This is all pretty far off and it's pretty clear that neither the Hollywood section nore the Condor Flats section are troubled quite as badly as the Pier/Entrance are.



    My idea for it would probably to make the front of Hollywood land fit with the time period of the entrance and then phase forward with each succesive building until Animation at least haha. I love the animation facade and only feel bad for the loss of detail it's gotten over the years. I'm also fine with the face of the Hyperion down the street but would like to see the wait area turned into a fully realized lobby with the outside having a finished classical styling to compliment ToT.

    Maybe park a classic car near the entrance and another car of 50's calibur near Award Weiners :P. It'd be pretty darned awesome to walk through time towards Tower (which I feel is creepier in a modern context but it really doesn't matter as long as the queue gets more deserted looking :P), Clearly from Tower onward your in a fairly modern era since Cars happens in the modern era (that reminds me, what will that path look like?).


    I'd be fine with the Muppets/Monster area remaining backlot if they could unbland it a little and maybe make the fountain actually match (and maybe axe that stage area, why have an outdoor venue so close to a indoor one? I guess it's ok for dance party's but I thought that was Tomorrowland's thing).


    I suppose I'll just be happy to see the fake feeling leave most of the buildings on the main street but the major thing has to be the side of the Animation building which is just way to bland :P.


    I'll definitly agree with you on some nostalgic lamposts though
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    Re: HollywoodLand?

    I think there innevitably will be some references to modern films, but I think this will work well if they choose the right places and ways to use them. It's true that some leyway can be made for the world inside the attraction, as long as in the park you feel genuinely transported to the 30's.

    The Muppets fit easily IMO because they are very much based on classic hollywood. Even though they are from a bit later, thier whole shtick is being like a the type of vaudville acts that much of early movies and TV took their influences from.

    I think the animation area will always be fine even if it continues to feature modern films, since it's a celebration of an art who's roots and traditions come from the golden age, it seems a natural fit. Monsters is a stretch obviously, but at least since Monstropolis is a fantasy environment that's always existed as a mirror of our own, it could work somewhat. In any case, the land will need one more signature attraction and hopefully a more appropriate show then TS for the Hyperion to really support the theme and it will work fine.

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    Re: HollywoodLand?

    what they should do with the hyperion honestly IMO is just as frontierland had the golden horseshoe review(miss that alot)..why not give us a vaudville show in there? give the guest a taste of entertainment from the era?

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    Re: HollywoodLand?

    Quote Originally Posted by sunrider View Post
    what they should do with the hyperion honestly IMO is just as frontierland had the golden horseshoe review(miss that alot)..why not give us a vaudville show in there? give the guest a taste of entertainment from the era?

    That's a really neat idea! A taste of what they still do at the El Capitan almost!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coheteboy View Post
    That's a really neat idea! A taste of what they still do at the El Capitan almost!
    i think so..it would work on so many levels.be interactive with the audience,get away from the toy story or what ever popular cruise show they can stick in there, this could be time less entertainment,and the great part about the show is it would be almost all improv..so you could get a diffrent expirence everytime you visit,..sure there would have to be a structure to it all..and maybe a few AAs off to the side ala country bears,that the actors on stage could interact with to..and the AAs could interact with the audience and cast as well tell me that wouldnt be fun and what a show that could undercut toy storys budget after a fashion,as well as be less then an hour long in the long run that could be a step towords classic disney fun..

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