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    Re: Little-Known and Well-Known Facts about Disneyland

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve DeGaetano View Post
    While the OP may have used the word "myth" in the body of his post, he uses the word "Facts" in the thread title. Being "polite" is defacto acceptance and praise of someone who, purposely or not, is spreading misinformation.

    I'm of the belief that incorrect information should be pointed out early and often.
    Bingo. Meaning no offense to the OP, his grab-bag collection of myths and "facts" does poor service to his readers, to the MiceChat forum, and to the un-credited authors from which he lifted his information.

    While MiceChat is not WikiPedia, this kind of spreading of misinformation is, in my opinion, irresponsible.


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    Re: Little-Known and Well-Known Facts about Disneyland

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve DeGaetano View Post
    Sounds like a mis-reading of this article: Jim Hill : Disney's long, long journey to Oz
    But Steve, he said that's how it ACTUALLY happened, so it just MUST be true fact.

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    Re: Little-Known and Well-Known Facts about Disneyland

    Ah, Wikipedia... the world's most reliable and trusted source of misinformation.

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    Re: Little-Known and Well-Known Facts about Disneyland

    I do remember reading in some Disney book that they did consider an Oz land. But it never left ground. It doesn't seem that odd that they would if it is true. I bet for every failed movie Disney could use in the parks has an interesting land/ride concept themed to it.

    The Petrified Tree was for Walt's wife, Lily, but she wanted to keep it in the park. I'm guessing a diamond ring would of been better

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    Re: Little-Known and Well-Known Facts about Disneyland

    I just read all the OP, wow, that is a source of confusion and misinformation! It's like saying 2x2=5, not quite!
    Yaye!

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    Re: Little-Known and Well-Known Facts about Disneyland

    Here's a real fact. Disneyland is crowded and charges high prices for crummy food.

    That is all for now.


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    Re: Little-Known and Well-Known Facts about Disneyland

    I personally have enjoyed this thread. Keep them coming!

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    Re: Little-Known and Well-Known Facts about Disneyland

    Quote Originally Posted by Darkbeer View Post
    Note, Opening day was MONDAY, July 18th, you are referring to the International Press Preview if you are talking about July 17th.

    Disneyland Historical Documents/Photos - 1955 thru 1970 (11/6/08) - Darkbeer's Photos

    Amazing 1955 Historical Newspaper Section in regards to Disneyland's opening
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve DeGaetano View Post
    Nitpicking, I know, but the water tower doesn't provide a "source of power." It provides, well...water.

    The train's source of power is biodiesel, which is burned in the firebox of the locomotive, and which then turns the water in the boiler to steam--which is consumed at the rate of about 140 gallons per hour.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Weaver View Post
    Just a typo. Where you have,

    "The rats among Disneyland are kept left alone because they keep the rodent population in check."

    that should be:

    "The cats among Disneyland are kept left alone because they keep the rodent population in check."
    Fixed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve DeGaetano View Post
    What book exactly? I'll make sure I don't buy it.
    I thought I mentioned it in the first post. Little Known Facts About Well-Known Places - David Hoffman
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve DeGaetano View Post
    Not everyone knows that many of these are false--you among them, as suggested by your first post.

    While the OP may have used the word "myth" in the body of his post, he uses the word "Facts" in the thread title. Being "polite" is defacto acceptance and praise of someone who, purposely or not, is spreading misinformation.

    I'm of the belief that incorrect information should be pointed out early and often.
    You're right - it should have been myths AND facts. Fixed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wiggins View Post
    Bingo. Meaning no offense to the OP, his grab-bag collection of myths and "facts" does poor service to his readers, to the MiceChat forum, and to the un-credited authors from which he lifted his information.

    While MiceChat is not WikiPedia, this kind of spreading of misinformation is, in my opinion, irresponsible.
    As mentioned, all of this information came from a book. I had no way of knowing whether it was true or false - the idea was to let the community discuss what they wanted. I'm sorry if I've somehow defamed the quality of MiceChat. I just wanted to post some interesting information. Although, in the back of the book, there is a lengthy disclaimer, among it reading "All facts and figures were accurate, to the best of our knowledge, at the time of press." Again, I thought I had posted the author's info in the first post. I must have deleted it while editing the first time around.

    The question becomes, should I bother posting the rest of the information if it may or may not be true?
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    Re: Little-Known and Well-Known Facts about Disneyland

    Quote Originally Posted by Kablary View Post
    The question becomes, should I bother posting the rest of the information if it may or may not be true?
    The question becomes, "why post such lengthy excerpts from Hoffman's book?"

    What's the purpose of your thread?

    Again, I don't mean to offend you -- I'm genuinely puzzled.


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    Re: Little-Known and Well-Known Facts/Myths about Disneyland

    It was intended to be fun information.
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    Re: Little-Known and Well-Known Facts/Myths about Disneyland

    I say post 'em if you've got 'em.

    Maybe Hoffman will drop in here, learn a little about research, and make his second edition a better book.

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    Re: Little-Known and Well-Known Facts/Myths about Disneyland

    Quote Originally Posted by Kablary View Post
    It was intended to be fun information.
    I understand. Thanks for the clarification in your posts above -- appreciated!


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    Re: Little-Known and Well-Known Facts/Myths about Disneyland

    I was genuinely worried there for a second. I thought, "Oh man, what have I gotten myself into?" Ahh, the pressures of being a newbie

    Thanks for helping me out and touching up on those iffy bits of info, guys. Much appreciated!
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    Re: Little-Known and Well-Known Facts about Disneyland

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve DeGaetano View Post
    I have never seen this mentioned in any history of the Park I've ever read; nor does it appear on any concept drawings of the park I've seen.
    I actully read this in one of my disney books, Let me llok it up and I'll post it.

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    Re: Little-Known and Well-Known Facts/Myths about Disneyland

    This theard is turning very negative...

    Personally I thought it was interesting to read all the info, myths or not.
    There should be no argument becuase the author of the book did not have the right facts.

    Its a mistake and this was meant to be interesting and maybe even thought provoking.
    Disneyland is the stuff of imagination and dreams.

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