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    Re: Mass Transit to Disneyland Resort

    I doubt there will be any legit mass transit until the public demands it. It would be really expensive because or the horrible urban sprawl in SoCal. But until then we spend billions a year on widening freeways that when completed will already be insufucient.

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    Re: Mass Transit to Disneyland Resort

    The Orange County Metrolink line looks like the route to go, they just need a peoplemover or monorail to link it to the resort.

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    Re: Mass Transit to Disneyland Resort

    Quote Originally Posted by PragmaticIdealist
    Metrolink to Anaheim Station is extremely convenient.

    Metrolink provides small complimentary shuttles (operated by the O.C.T.A.) that provide express service to Disneyland, which is only about a mile away.

    The shuttles wait for each arriving train at the curb of Anaheim Station.
    Is there any info on these shuttles at the Anaheim station? I live up in Glendale, and the train seems like a GREAT option.

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    Re: Mass Transit to Disneyland Resort

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom319
    I doubt there will be any legit mass transit until the public demands it.
    It is in demand ....... it's been a planning phases for DECADES .. but there's too much beaurocracy that throws it into idle.



    Quote Originally Posted by Tom319
    It would be really expensive because or the horrible urban sprawl in SoCal.
    Oh .. you're not kidd'n!!



    Quote Originally Posted by Tom319
    But until then we spend billions a year on widening freeways that when completed will already be insufucient.
    Already been done.

    For Orange County?
    55 in the mid 80s
    405 late 80s
    5 from El Toro to Buena Park 1987-1995
    91 mid 90s
    57 early 90s
    and the last freeway to get a carpool lane is the 22 which is happening now.

    The biggest fiasco is the 5 on approach to the "Orange Crush". All that widening .. and still a terrible crawl.

    The problem is not that we don't demand it ........ The problem is that we are use to slow crawls day in .. and day out. As if commutes to work with 2 hour commutes to travel 25 miles are normal for forever.
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    Re: Mass Transit to Disneyland Resort

    Having lived here for...

    L.A. will never go for Public Transportation!

    Every day I wish they would. Traffic got it's name in L.A. and it is here to stay.
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    Re: Mass Transit to Disneyland Resort

    Quote Originally Posted by Escapé
    Well ... get this load of good info:

    I had to use the bus from a nightclub directly infront of the Spaghetti Factory/Amtrak Fullerton station one night recently. This was at night .. pass midnight .. and I got an EASY bus ride to the Esplanade/Plaza stop within 10 minutes!!! EASY! With busses running every 10 to 30 minutes!!

    So .... the trick is not going to the Katella/Angel Stadium stop .. but the HARBOR BLVD. stop .. and be droped off the east side of the Esplanade on the side of Tomorrowland.
    I very much disagree. No one who uses Metrolink to get to Disneyland on a daily basis uses the Fullerton Station.

    Anaheim Station has small and relatively-private shuttles that provide express service to Disneyland and that wait for each train to arrive within steps of the station. Also, the transfers are completely free for Metrolink passengers.

    Metrolink's Web-site can provide more details about the StationLink program, and the O.C.T.A.'s participation. Upon detraining, passengers should just walk to the curb between the station and the parking area, and look for the dedicated O.C.T.A. shuttle waiting there. The driver will probably not even ask to see your Metrolink tickets.

    The shuttles, then, make three stops in the following order: Harbor Boulevard pedestrian entrance; Team Disney, Anaheim; and, the Disneyland Hotel.
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    That's great information Prag ......... here I thought it was easier to use the Harbor Blvd bus which is a straight shot to the entry plaza for DCA & DL .. rather than a Katella to Harbor route. Thanks for the info!!
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    Re: Mass Transit to Disneyland Resort

    Also note the times of the first train in the morning and the last train in the evening.
    Take a car, and take three friends inside it with you. There: "mass transit."
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    Cool Re: Mass Transit to Disneyland Resort

    Well according to the LA Times, light rail might become a reality in Irvine... eventually perhaps there will be light rail from LA to Disneyland and beyond. If you live in Irvine, support this! See the site and a quote below:

    http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,7783999.story

    Light-Rail Plan May Be Back on Track in Irvine

    After CenterLine's death, the city is looking at a shorter loop linking Great Park, urban hubs
    Less than four months after the demise of the controversial CenterLine light-rail project, a new rail proposal in Irvine is reviving debate about the viability of mass transit in Orange County.

    The proposal, which won an initial endorsement from the Irvine City Council last week, would use millions in state money that the city had earmarked for CenterLine to instead help connect the future Orange County Great Park with Irvine's Metrolink station and the Spectrum shopping center.

    The 5½-mile system would be a far cry from the 28 miles of light rail that county transportation officials once envisioned shuttling passengers from hubs like South Coast Plaza, UC Irvine and John Wayne Airport. It would also cost significantly less — an estimated $210 million as opposed to more than $1 billion for CenterLine.

    But Irvine officials hope that, if their project is built and proves successful, it will serve as a model for other cities to follow and eventually link with Irvine's tracks....

    (ARTICLE CONTINUED ON LATIMES.COM)

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    Thanks CaliforniaAdventurer ...

    That info was very handy ... which goes to further demonstrate the point how Orange County is so totally backward on mass transit .. and needed to get on the bandwagon 20 years ago. As systems were being thought out in the 60s and 70s.

    Too many apponents don't know how to look beyond the moment they are in .. and don't look into the future when OC's population grows even more. And even worse .. is when the 405 heading north slows down as soon as Jeffrey Road .. and is at a snails pace right through Brookhurst some 10 miles away.

    Or the Santa Ana Freeway heading north from the El Toro "Y" split with all of it's 12 lanes installed since 1996 when it was complete .. stands today as a crawl itself .. leading into Tustin .. Santa Ana .. right into Anaheim. From 3 lanes in each direction between 1962 to 1992 .. to 6 .. and STILL is the same crawl. And the point of all this ........... those same people who blocked officials from "not wanting a light rail running through their neighborhoods" ... probably seem to enjoy crawling 2 miles per hour on the 5 or the 405.

    As a native of OC .. lived for over 30 years there ... it just astounds me how the bickering continues for 4 decades now .......... and the freeways are never going to be answer .......... Not even the Garden Grove 22 freeway with construction of a carpool lane throughout it's 17 mile run is going to only increase the speed from 5 miles an hour to 10 miles per hour.

    All these freeway improvements are only helping slightly.

    And in the meantime ... we are well into the 21st Century .. with many cities ahead of the game (like NYC, San Francisco, Washington DC, Boston).

    We can have world class theme parks .. and beautiful suburbs .. with shopping malls .. and entertainment malls ........ yet this region can't get "on track" even when it's life is dependent on it.

    Groups who are against Mass Transit .. are only hurting OC, and future generations.
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    And if a new Peoplemover ever gets built .......

    I hope this one and only mass transit system in all of OC .. can inspire OC officials (again!) ... as the future needs to get-with-it.
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    Re: Mass Transit to Disneyland Resort

    I'll have to look at going to the Fullerton stop. I've used Amtrak/Metrolink to the Anaheim station, and taken an OC bus to Harbor/Katella, a short walk to the park. I didn't see the shuttle that other posters above mentioned as waiting for the train; the guy working at the train station told me where to catch the regular bus. They didn't seem to know anything about a shuttle of any kind, nor did the customer service desk at Disneyland.
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    Re: Mass Transit to Disneyland Resort

    If anybody has a map of the proposed IRVINE light rail line, please post it here or at least post a link. Thanks.

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    Cool Re: Mass Transit to Disneyland Resort

    You bring up some good points... The article goes on to say further down:

    After years of debate, county transportation officials in October shelved CenterLine, opting instead to fund road construction and increased bus and Metrolink service.

    The light-rail system, once touted as a symbol of Orange County's urban maturity, ran into opposition from neighborhoods, who didn't want it on their streets, and critics who objected to its cost.

    But now Irvine wants to use $125 million in state money it got from a 1990 voter-approved bond issue that was to be spent on CenterLine to fund this new idea.

    But to do that, the city must match those funds.

    City officials say the money could come from either private or public sources, including an extension of Measure M, the county's half-cent-on-the-dollar sales tax for transportation projects that is set to expire in 2011.

    (See the rest of the article at the link above.)

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    Re: Mass Transit to Disneyland Resort

    If Irvine doesn't take that $125 million in state funds, Anaheim should!

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