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    The Sorry State of Soarin'

    I read a lot of things about how people love Soarin' Over California. Indeed, the attraction, when it's in top form, is pretty darn amazing. However I feel like people dump too much praise upon something that maybe doesn't deserve it.

    I guess my point is, a guest's ride experience on Soarin' is sometimes not all it's cracked up to be. Here are a few talking points:

    1) The black or white ride experience.

    I can't think of any other Disneyland Resort Attraction that has this unique flaw. Depending on where you sit, your ride experience is either fantastic or (in my opinion) abysmal. If you're seated front row center, things look pretty good and the ride is a technological marvel and pretty immersive experience. If you are seated, oh I don't know, let's say third row far right (or left) you get the special feature of only seeing part of the screen, two (count them two) rows of dangling feet and spectacular view of the floor, walls as well as the top, bottom and sides of the screen.

    I guess my big issue is the attraction does not offer any sort of consistency. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad. Other attractions never really offer bad experienes (Superstar Limo and Innoventions excluded ). Oh sure, you may not have the best seat in the house for It's Tough to be a Bug, but you don't have a bad time. In fact, changes in seating locations for any given attraction usually offer something new, something you may have missed the first time around. In contrast, seating changes on Soarin' don't yield anything but frustration.

    2) The complete lack of an immersive and entertaining queue.

    A winding outdoor standard issue serpentine, a unimaginative an boring interior queue as well as long wait times make for a grating experience. They put in this queue on the cheap for sure - and whatever sort of info/theme they do have on the walls is too far away to read due to Fast Pass.

    Basically the whole queue is awash with cheap stupidity. It tells no story, it's not immersive and the safety film is... well actually I sort of like the safety film so never-mind.

    3) The Ride is in desperate need of cleaning and refurbishment.

    The film is dirty, splotchy and occasionally out of focus. The screens have schmutz and junk all over the place. The handrails and walls have vandalism, peeling paint and chipped chunks of drywall. It's a pretty ugly experience these days and the devil's in the details.

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    So in summary, I feel like the core ride experience CAN be really great, but it's not supported by any sort of story. The whole attraction could be wrapped up with a neat and and thrilling package (like Indiana Jones) from start to finish. Of course all of this begs the question: Will Epcot's version learn from any of these mistakes?

    I guess you can all go ahead and throw tomatoes now , but I just had to get that off of my chest. Everyone seems to lavish praise upon Soarin' (it really bugs me that it has no "g"), and I thought I'd offer a contrasting opinion.

    Commence tomato throwing on the count of three.

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    I agree, the attraction has potential but doesn't bring it out because of the cheap budget that was spent on creating the attraction. It seems like they were short on money and decided to pour most of the money into the ride iteself. They need to close it and redo the queue and do something about the quality of the film.

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    "The Sorry State of Soarin'" That lousy state would be California.
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    I think the screen is really dusty. I can see a grid pattern in the snow...

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    I have noticed that the film could use a good cleaning and I love the Patrick Warburton safty video.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retlaw Yensid
    I have noticed that the film could use a good cleaning and I love the Patrick Warburton safty video.
    Yeah, it's about the only highlight I like in the queue. I still think they need a connective immersive story though. Right now it's sort of like they plunked down this simulator ride in the middle of theme park. It's not too far from waiting in line at the DMV. The Star Trek Experience in Las Vegas, actually turns that concept on it's ear - if you have never been, they really went to great lengths to solve the problem of taking it from a ride to an "experience".
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    I personally love the ride, it's very neat, and true the side seats are not as good, i still enjoy the ride. But the queue! That is the most pointless, boring wait ever! The ride is about the differnt environments in claifornia...and the queue is aviation history! That did not have much thought put into it. But i still love the ride!

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    I love Soarin' but I agree, it's needs some cleanup work. The Patrick Warburton video is pretty fun to watch, Retlaw.
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    Agree as well, but in the "missed opportunity" dept. The attraction has so much potential to take you into the vibe of California, but does opts for the typical Circlevision formula of many distant aireal shots that it makes the experience generic to almost anywhere USA. The edits are jump or smash cuts that abruptly take you elsewhere and have no magic transitition whatsoever. Why not fly thru the Golden Gate bridge, or the "O" in the Hollywood sign? Blow the tarps off of the street vendors of Venice beach or chase the Santa Cruz Boardwark's Coaster?
    Where was the magic of Lombard Street or buzzing the Transamerica Tower, or racing through the redwoods? No ditching the spray of a Whale watch in this movie.. Dull dull dull.

    It's ironic that the best scene in the whole thing is flying over the park next door..
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    I HATE this ride and don't understand the appeal. Maybe it's because I'm a native Californian and I've seen all of this stuff before, but I just don't understand why it's so popular.

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    I rode Soarin for the first time in a long while at Cast Blast on Monday. I noticed all the dust, the visible grid on the screen, and the little UFOs that pop up and go away. I was really annoyed at the fact that theres no smooth transition between the scenes that move slowly and the scenes that move fast. Bust most importantly I just felt the ride was less special than it was back in 2001. The film hasn't changed at all and now 4 years later it's just getting old and boring.

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    while i see your point... i think that perhaps you're confusing attributes of Disneyland attractions to DCA... To my knowledge, DCA doesn't really have entertaining queues. Think of everything from Screamin' to GRR, to TTBAB, MaliBOOMer, Sun Wheel, etc. There really isn't an interesting or immersive queue to be had. As for the ride quality being related to where you sit... all I can say is that Soarin' is kind of a show/attraction. If you were in the back left of the fantasyland theater for a showing of Snow White or the back left corner of the Hyperion for Aladdin, you might not be so hot-to-trot either. Just my $.02
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCM
    while i see your point... i think that perhaps you're confusing attributes of Disneyland attractions to DCA... To my knowledge, DCA doesn't really have entertaining queues. Think of everything from Screamin' to GRR, to TTBAB, MaliBOOMer, Sun Wheel, etc. There really isn't an interesting or immersive queue to be had. As for the ride quality being related to where you sit... all I can say is that Soarin' is kind of a show/attraction. If you were in the back left of the fantasyland theater for a showing of Snow White or the back left corner of the Hyperion for Aladdin, you might not be so hot-to-trot either. Just my $.02
    That's fairly true but I think the Muppets queue is fantastic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrLiver
    I was really annoyed at the fact that theres no smooth transition between the scenes that move slowly and the scenes that move fast.
    YESSS. This is one of my biggest issues with it, and I'm glad someone else notices. It just has choppy cuts when they could do smooth transitions easily by say, panning up to the sky and then editing it so it panned down to another region.

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