View Poll Results: Is it really the Land of Tomorrow?

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    TOMORROWLAND not the land of TOMORROW?

    When Tomorrowland opened back in 1955 it showed what the FUTURE might hold in the then far off 1986. Kind of impressive what it was attempting to do, right? As long as Walt lived he ensured that Tomorrowland was constantly updated in an attempt to continue showcasing technology and sciences of the FUTURE. Although it has always had entertainment value, the land of tomorrow was really intended to be a glimpse into the Future, providing guests with a peak at the possibilities of things to come. In Walt's own words, "Disneyland is your land. Here, age relives fond memories of the past, and here youth may savor the challenge and promise of the future." What promises of the future does Tomorrowland currently hold? The promise that in the future one might have to battle stormtroopers? What challenges does the Futures supposedly hold? I guess the challenge of battling an intergalactic War Lord for batteries is an appropriate one? The only current showcase of "future" technologies is Innoventions, but all the technology inside is current and not really off in the future. Do not misunderstand me, I like the attractions in Tomorrowland, I just believe that it has wandered far away from being the land of tomorrow. Indeed I think if no attempt to showcase the future is going to be made then the plaque above the tunnels at the entrance should be changed to read "Here you leave Today and enter the world of YESTERDAY, ENTERTAINMENT, and FANTASY." I'm not going to say my opinion is right, it's just my own. I want to hear everyones opinion on this, so lets get lots of people to check this thread out and post. Thank you
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    Re: TOMORROWLAND not the land of TOMORROW?

    Woooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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    Re: TOMORROWLAND not the land of TOMORROW?

    I personally think Tomorrowland is a bad concept from the beginning, especially for a park with a budget to maintain. It needs constant updating.

    Currently, the land is more of a "Spaceland" then a Tomorrowland, which financially speaking, is much easier to maintain.

    Things like NOS, Rivers of America, etc, Dont need to be constantly upgraded for them to maintain their appeal, at least not on the level of Tomorrowland.

    I actually dont have a problem with a Spaceland (Just dont change the name), just as long as things like HISTA and Innoventions are gone, and Star Tours gets a decent upgrade.

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    Re: TOMORROWLAND not the land of TOMORROW?

    The name Tomorrowland is so synonymous with Disneyland, there's no way they can change the name even though there is little "tomorrow" about the land. I'm cool with discoveryland or something else but sadly it seems like they chase tomorrow but haven't been able to catch it lately (Buzz, Nemo & innoventions).

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    Re: TOMORROWLAND not the land of TOMORROW?

    Tomorrowland has always been the biggest issue land. I think this is why they went with Discoveryland in Paris, and IMO they should have stuck with that name for Hong Kong as well.


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    Re: TOMORROWLAND not the land of TOMORROW?

    Im actually pretty surprised that Apple hasn't stuck their hands into Tomorrowland since they feel like they ARE the future...

    I always have fond memories of how Tomorrowland used to be. Sad knowing that it will never be that way again...but I'll always keep my fingers crossed.
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    Re: TOMORROWLAND not the land of TOMORROW?

    It seems that the best way to fix the "Tomorrowland" problem is to settle on a middle ground. Keeping up with the future, and ever evolving technology, is a losing battle. They need to pick a style for the land and theme it accordingly.
    I am personally a fan of the TL of my youth,(70's) and would choose that general style for the overall look and feel of things. It's kind of a good "retro future" style that seems to be a favorite all around.
    Whats missing most though is kinetic energy. The Monorail alone does not cut it. Most of us either remember, or have seen plenty of pictures and film of Tomorrowland at it's lively, bustling, city on the move best.
    A couple snapshots of the old entrance alone are enough to make you realize that things have gone way in the wrong direction.

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    Re: TOMORROWLAND not the land of TOMORROW?

    Needs work.

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    Re: TOMORROWLAND not the land of TOMORROW?

    I wouldn't say that Tomorrowland is Pixar'd out as much as it may seem. The sad thing is that you have a perfect example of a Tomorrow-World in Innoventions although it is a far less thrilling attraction than BLAB or Nemo. EO will bring some far out fantastical futurism to Tomorrowland and Star Tours 1.0 and 2.0 definately bring the same feelings too, once you get the Star Wars logo out of your head that is.

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    Re: TOMORROWLAND not the land of TOMORROW?

    I remember watching the "Disneyland Imagineering the Magic DVD" and seeing Tom Fitzgerald, senior Imagineer for DLR as I understand it now, saying something a long the lines of:

    "When Walt introduced Tomorrowland back in 1955 it was a very optimistic and realistic view of the future but today technology and the world moves so fast, with technology and communication, that we're (referring to the Imagineers I'm guessing) heading more towards fantasy in our future."

    Now the above is not a FULLY accurate quote but most of it is exactly what he said, and judging by how how Tomorrowland looks so far, I'd have to say it holds true and he does have a point about our future. It has always been a comical idea to me of man's predictions of our future compared to what really occurs. Think about it, according to he creators of Back to the Future II, we're going to be flying around in hover cars and hydrating our pizzas to triple the original size in just five years!!! We all know that this simply isn't the case and that technology does move INSANELY fast and the ideas for tomorrow are constantly changing, evolving, and growing.

    Back in Walt's day, referring to the 50's and 60's, the vision of tomorrow was very optimistic and innocent as were just coming from the second World War and America was on it's quest for space as the final frontier! The cold war was decades away and the future was bright with many new contraptions and ideas becoming a part of our everyday life! Now we all know that that optimistic future has evolved into a very dim and bleak outlook with every prediction of our future outlining an apocalyptic outcome for the world. Terror has consumed our bright horizons of tomorrow and conflicts throughout the planet wash away our dreams for our children and grand children.

    Who in their bright minds would base a theme park area on that??!?!

    Instead Disney has brought us a more sugar coated tomorrow with video games taking the place of movies, (i.e. Circle Vision) they have just made things more attainable to a constantly changing audience who can relate to things like BLAB, Innoventions and Autopia. I think the Disney Imagineers have been more keen to give us more of a "fantasy" type view of tomorrow simply because the more "reality" based future has become more stereotypical, frightening, and uninteresting to the modern day audience they serve.

    While I don't believe the current Tomorrowland is anything to be proud of, especially on a Disney level of quality, it certainly does showcase the views of the optimistic "fantasy" based future I've just stated.

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    Re: TOMORROWLAND not the land of TOMORROW?

    Quote Originally Posted by sir clinksalot View Post
    Tomorrowland has always been the biggest issue land. I think this is why they went with Discoveryland in Paris, and IMO they should have stuck with that name for Hong Kong as well.
    It worked for me in Paris. I enjoyed it just as much, if not more, without the misnomer.
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    Re: TOMORROWLAND not the land of TOMORROW?

    I'd like to post links to 20 other Tomrrowland threads.

    Just not into doing it.

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    Re: TOMORROWLAND not the land of TOMORROW?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vashsky666 View Post
    I remember watching the "Disneyland Imagineering the Magic DVD" and seeing Tom Fitzgerald, senior Imagineer for DLR as I understand it now, saying something a long the lines of:

    "When Walt introduced Tomorrowland back in 1955 it was a very optimistic and realistic view of the future but today technology and the world moves so fast, with technology and communication, that we're (referring to the Imagineers I'm guessing) heading more towards fantasy in our future."
    I have a problem with Fitzgerald's quote because the 1980s era Epcot (Horizons Especially) had tons of fantastical and captivating examples of where we could be with future technologies, only a smidgen of which we have seen come to pass today and the rest of the ideas remain pretty far-fetched. Why has it become so relevant in this day and age to imagine the future within the constraints of modern technology and communication? Why can't we all be telepathic in the future, it probably won't happen but that doesn't mean that its a ridiculous concept.

    Is that statement really Fitzgerald considering the underlying and unspoken notion that Disney is at the mercy of the visions that their corporate sponsors create? Do we really have to base the future off concepts like the Microsoft dream house, in 2014 will we still be driving loud stinky petrol cars because the sponsor is a gasoline company? We can intergalactically travel in the future, but beware of the pesky Empire and those Star Destroyers! Is it really necessary that Disney now make attractions in Tomorrowland that are sponsored by the movie that probably gave them the revenue to build it in the first place?

    If that is the case then for the love of God, leave Space Mountain as it is, don't upgrade it, don't FedEx it, just leave one shread of fantastical futuristic fantasy as-is in Tomorrowland.

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    Re: TOMORROWLAND not the land of TOMORROW?

    Quote Originally Posted by sediment View Post
    I'd like to post links to 20 other Tomrrowland threads.

    Just not into doing it.
    yeah, im done with this debate

    someone needs to create an emoticon for "beating a dead horse"...
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    Re: TOMORROWLAND not the land of TOMORROW?

    Quote Originally Posted by DubiousEndeavors View Post
    yeah, im done with this debate

    someone needs to create an emoticon for "beating a dead horse"...
    I've seen one on another forum. It just needs to be added to the list of acceptable e-cons.

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