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    Re: The Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect Thread 7: Further Realms of Fright

    Quote Originally Posted by karcreat View Post
    I also suppose, tho, it's about as 'subtle' as 'The Haunted Mansion', tho...no?...I also like how it sort of states outright that the attraction is 'dark' (themed) and a dark ride...I really dig it, personally, it's exactly what I envisioned it to be...


    If that's the style you're going for, why not come right out and call it "Dark Valley?" "Daark" sounds to my ears like trying to have one's cake and eat it, too.

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    Re: The Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect Thread 7: Further Realms of Fright

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    If that's the style you're going for, why not come right out and call it "Dark Valley?" "Daark" sounds to my ears like trying to have one's cake and eat it, too.

    LOL...because 'Daark' sound more like a vaguely European last name...and having your cake and eating it too is seriously underrated...and yummy!...
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    Least expensive Horror DVD collection containing The Haunting (1963)?

    I see a lot of cheap DVD Horror film collections ($5 to $10) that have House on Haunted Hill (nothing to do with the HM, I think). But I never see The Haunting (1963). The latter, if I remember correctly, being recognized as potential (or actual?) inspiration for the HM's Corridor of Doors.

    Anyone know of an inexpensive DVD Horror film collection, new or used, that contains the 1963 version of The Haunting (not the 1999 one)?

    UPDATE:
    I see the following, new, for around $8 + $4 shipping from Amazon:
    TCM Greatest Classic Films Collection: Horror (House of Wax 1953 / The Haunting 1963 / Freaks / Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde 1941)

    And a DVD of just The Haunting (1963) itself, new, for around $5 new plus $4 shipping.

    Worth $3 to also get House of Wax (never seen), Freaks (seen once--never need to see again), Dr. Jerkyl and Mr. Hyde--never seen + disc evidently contains both versions (1932 and 1941)?
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    Re: The Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect Thread 7: Further Realms of Fright

    Don't get your hopes up too high. IMO, The Haunting (1963) is one of the most grossly overrated films of all time. I've done everything I can think of to at least like it, to understand the praise heaped upon it, but it's no use. The house itself is good, the cinematography is great, the notion of presenting a truly haunted house without showing you the ghosts is wonderful, but nothing matters in a movie if you don't have believable characters you can identify with and an interesting story. The Haunting has neither of those.
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    Re: The Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect Thread 7: Further Realms of Fright

    House on Haunted Hill is in the public domain which explains its appearance everywhere (including YouTube and archive.org).

    We'll have to agree to disagree on The Haunting. I only saw it within the last few years so didn't find it scary, but the atmosphere really works for me (as it does in the Corridor of Doors) and the film school graduate in me (class of '87) loves the meticulous shot setups throughout.

    Mansion update 3/28/2014
    (4 rides late night, after the earthquakes!)

    March 28th -- earthquake evening in SoCal. I didn't arrive until after the first earthquake at 8 and was on Star Tours during the second at 9:09 (it had just reopened). The ride e-stopped in the middle and we were escorted out and I walked over to the Mansion since I thought it would be back up soon since you'd think it would be easy to get a dark ride back up and running quickly. I'm sure they want to make sure everything is safe and all, but I waited from 9:30 to 10 by the closed front gate and it still wasn't open. You'd think they'd run the elevators a couple of times, cycle the doom buggies, have someone ride through to check the animatronics -- done. Well, no, I guess not. I ended up leaving and watching the 10:30 Fantasmic and by the time I got back to the Mansion at 11 PM it was open. They were only running one stretch room (the left) so the line was slower than usual but soon I was in.

    Pro riding tip #1: If a group of teens is rowdy throughout the line and into the stretch rooms and portrait hall, they ain't gonna stop when they sit on the ride. Put some space between them and you. Trust me. I've been through this before but now I'm really going to watch out for it because that first ride was accompanied by whooping and hollering and pounding on their buggy from a few buggies ahead and, um, the carefully orchestrated atmosphere of the ride kind of dissolves with that going on.

    I rode three more times. Two of the four rides had loud chanting along with the Ghost Host from the crowd during the stretch room. It's nice to see that people are in the spirit of things but, you know, again, atmosphere... Maybe people were still freaked out by the earthquakes and exhibiting nervous energy. I don't know.

    The organist is still dim and impossible to make out as a human shape. The duelists are at two very different light levels, the first one is very bright and the second is rather dim (I may have already reported that, but I keep noticing it).

    The red and green lights were under every fifth buggy in two different sections of the buggy lineup. I was probably wrong when I said every fourth before. The red light is constant, the green is flashing. I can't imagine what they mean or why they suddenly appeared.

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    Re: The Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect Thread 7: Further Realms of Fright

    Thank you for the update! Along with everyone else, I'm very jealous of your frequent trips to the Mansion.

    I know Disney has the copyrights to the Omnimover (doombuggy) but is there anywhere else in the world running these vehicles? Are these running lights a recent addition, or some safety add on? Makes me think of pictures of Walts crew creating little models so every viewing angle could be dissected and double checked. If they knew about the lights when creating the attraction they probably would have made some shield or small cover? Of course if they are using for safety then that would defeat the purpose.

    Thanks again for for the trip report, I enjoy reading them!
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    Re: The Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect Thread 7: Further Realms of Fright

    I found both Eleanor and Theo in The Haunting believable and strongly identified with both of them in different ways. It never occurred to me before, but I wonder if it's possibly aimed more at a female audience? It's based on a novel by a female author, so I suppose it's not out of the realm of possibility.

    House of Wax is one of my all-time favorites, but I'm a huge Vincent Price fan to begin with and would probably rush out to buy Vincent Price Acts Out the Los Angeles Phone Book. When I went to a screening of it at the college cinema, most of the the students laughed through it like it was an extended Stooges pie fight sequence, so something tells me I'm probably biased and you may not want to spring for the whole set.

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    Re: The Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect Thread 7: Further Realms of Fright

    Thanks HBG2, Bigcatrik, and TTintagel. I found the TCM collection I'd mentioned for $8, including tax, used at my local used book / media store. The DVDs were pristine. So if the Haunting is not to my liking, at least I'll be able to catch classics like House of Wax as well.

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    Don't get your hopes up too high. IMO, The Haunting (1963) is one of the most grossly overrated films of all time. I've done everything I can think of to at least like it, to understand the praise heaped upon it, but it's no use. The house itself is good, the cinematography is great, the notion of presenting a truly haunted house without showing you the ghosts is wonderful, but nothing matters in a movie if you don't have believable characters you can identify with and an interesting story. The Haunting has neither of those.

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    Re: The Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect Thread 7: Further Realms of Fright

    I... might be going to DLR in early August (45th anniversary of the Mansion, I'm a pin trader... there's going to be pins released)... for the first time ever. Of course I might not be going as well. But I thought I should mention it... its my dream to go on the original Haunted Mansion... and if I do get to visit, it would really be amazing and very special to me. Any tips? Of course... this does mean a ten hour plane journey.

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    Re: The Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect Thread 7: Further Realms of Fright

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    I... might be going to DLR in early August (45th anniversary of the Mansion, I'm a pin trader... there's going to be pins released)... for the first time ever. Of course I might not be going as well. But I thought I should mention it... its my dream to go on the original Haunted Mansion... and if I do get to visit, it would really be amazing and very special to me. Any tips? Of course... this does mean a ten hour plane journey.
    Being that it will be summer time, and "peak season" I'd recommend getting there at rope-drop (park opening) to avoid long lines for it. You could probably hit HM a few times in a row with relatively short waits. Another good time to go on it is later in the evening, particularly during the Fantasmic shows. I've had anywhere from a 5 minute wait to literally walking right into the stretching room.

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    Re: The Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect Thread 7: Further Realms of Fright

    Quote Originally Posted by moregumboplease View Post
    Being that it will be summer time, and "peak season" I'd recommend getting there at rope-drop (park opening) to avoid long lines for it. You could probably hit HM a few times in a row with relatively short waits. Another good time to go on it is later in the evening, particularly during the Fantasmic shows. I've had anywhere from a 5 minute wait to literally walking right into the stretching room.
    Thanks for the info, is the Mansion ever particularly bad for long lines? I haven't had many problems with the Manor before... longest I think was 15-20 mins?

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    Re: The Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect Thread 7: Further Realms of Fright

    DL Mansion lines are worst when it's the Nightmare Before Christmas overlay and they block things up with FastPass. Most of the year, it's rare to see a wait time over 30 minutes, maybe 45, even on the busiest days. Though when I was there for Leap Day a couple of years ago, I waited nearly an hour and a half to ride at about 3am (that was a wild night). It is worth noting that, unlike Phantom Manor, the queue is mostly uncovered, so bring protection from the hot August sun!
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    Re: The Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect Thread 7: Further Realms of Fright

    Quote Originally Posted by SilentDante View Post
    DL Mansion lines are worst when it's the Nightmare Before Christmas overlay and they block things up with FastPass. Most of the year, it's rare to see a wait time over 30 minutes, maybe 45, even on the busiest days. Though when I was there for Leap Day a couple of years ago, I waited nearly an hour and a half to ride at about 3am (that was a wild night). It is worth noting that, unlike Phantom Manor, the queue is mostly uncovered, so bring protection from the hot August sun!
    Thanks for the tips, I've picked early August because of its anniversary and its usually just before it changes to Haunted Mansion Holiday... and I want to ride it in its proper state. Definitely going to need a hat!

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    Re: The Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect Thread 7: Further Realms of Fright

    I heard the Doombuggies podcast last night. It's about the live action knight.

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    Re: The Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion Effect Thread 7: Further Realms of Fright

    Quote Originally Posted by ttintagel View Post
    I found both Eleanor and Theo in The Haunting believable and strongly identified with both of them in different ways. It never occurred to me before, but I wonder if it's possibly aimed more at a female audience? It's based on a novel by a female author, so I suppose it's not out of the realm of possibility.
    Here are my problems with those two. Eleanor is a drama queen par excellence, practically a walking definition of a DQ. It's bad enough we have to watch her and listen to her, but in this film we actually have to listen to her thoughts! I want to reach into the tube and give her a shake and say, "Join the human race! It's not all about you." Unfortunately, in Hill House, thanks to a supernatural presence, it really IS all about her. So for once, being a drama queen is the correct response to reality (and we get to watch it; this really is a horror movie). As for Theo, the problem with her is that she's just standing there. She doesn't change. She doesn't grow. She isn't essential to the plot. With minimal rewriting, she could have been dropped from the movie with little impact. Much is made of the fact that she brings a lesbian subtext in the film. Well, there's a lesbian subtext in Rebecca (1940) and in The Uninvited (1944), and unlike The Haunting, in those films it actually matters to the story. In The Haunting, the fact that Theo is a lesbian makes exactly as much difference as which side of her head her hair is parted on.

    Sorry to unleash all this on you. It's not your post; I'm only using it as an excuse to pop off. I've been itching to dump on this movie ever since the last time I tried tried tried to like it and failed. I've actually written a full review just to get it off my chest. I don't know what I'll do with it. Doesn't seem quite appropriate for the blog.
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