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    Peeling wallpaper in the Haunted Mansion, intentional or not?

    In the foyer I noticed peeled off wallpaper that almost looks like someone did it on purpose, but then again its a haunted mansion so I wasn't sure.


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    Re: Peeling wallpaper in the Haunted Mansion, intentional or not?

    It is one of those things that I think do not matter. If it was intentional great. If not it still works. So no big deal either way.

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    Re: Peeling wallpaper in the Haunted Mansion, intentional or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Melonballer View Post
    It is one of those things that I think do not matter. If it was intentional great. If not it still works. So no big deal either way.
    :P I'm just weird and I like to point little things out XD

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    Re: Peeling wallpaper in the Haunted Mansion, intentional or not?

    No way is that part of the HM show. It's bad maintenance -- and bad show.

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    Re: Peeling wallpaper in the Haunted Mansion, intentional or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by mr wiggins View Post
    no way is that part of the hm show. It's bad maintenance -- and bad show.

    hah i knew it!

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    Re: Peeling wallpaper in the Haunted Mansion, intentional or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wiggins View Post
    No way is that part of the HM show. It's bad maintenance -- and bad show.
    And how do you know that for sure?

    Edit: And even if someone accidentally damaged the wall, is it so bad? The interior of the mansion is supposed to look dilapidated.

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    Re: Peeling wallpaper in the Haunted Mansion, intentional or not?

    I think someone tossed a soda cup out of their doom buggy, and a janitor accidentally ripped the paper while going by to sweep. Oh well, guess that means we'll have less cleaning.

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    Re: Peeling wallpaper in the Haunted Mansion, intentional or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Melonballer View Post
    And how do you know that for sure?
    Walt has been widely quoted by the WED Imagineers who built the HM as insisting its exterior, entrance, carpeting, etc., be in spotless condition -- not rundown and paint-peeling. He gave the same marching orders to New Orleans Square designer Herb Ryman, who said Walt wanted NOS looking fresh and new, like it had just been built.

    Quote Originally Posted by Melonballer View Post
    And even if someone accidentally damaged the wall, is it so bad? The interior of the mansion is supposed to look dilapidated.
    No, the interior of Disneyland's Haunted Mansion is NOT supposed to look dilapidated. Even if it were supposed to, the wallpaper in that photo doesn't look like show, it looks like crap. It looks exactly like what it is: damage by thoughtless guests, left unrepaired by under-budgeted maintenance.

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    Re: Peeling wallpaper in the Haunted Mansion, intentional or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wiggins View Post

    No, the interior of Disneyland's Haunted Mansion is NOT supposed to look dilapidated. Even if it were supposed to, the wallpaper in that photo doesn't look like show, it looks like crap. It looks exactly like what it is: damage by thoughtless guests, left unrepaired by under-budgeted maintenance.
    Well if that is the case, they need to get in there and clean up all the dust and cobwebs. It makes the place look run down.

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    Re: Peeling wallpaper in the Haunted Mansion, intentional or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Melonballer View Post
    Well if that is the case, they need to get in there and clean up all the dust and cobwebs. It makes the place look run down.
    Having been around this forum as long as you have, you've no doubt read the dozens of threads that have thoroughly discussed this topic. The HM concept is that the ghosts, cobwebs and dust have moved in, but the building itself has not run down.

    In movies or amusement parks, the stereotype rundown haunte houses with its torn wallpaper, peeling paint and holes in the roof is totally cliche. Walt's idea was that Disneyland's haunted house would be different -- from clean paint on the outside and fresh wallpaper in the foyer, to the perfectly-pressed uniforms of the CMs. Once you entered the world of the supernatural, that's where things changed.

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    Re: Peeling wallpaper in the Haunted Mansion, intentional or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wiggins View Post
    Having been around this forum as long as you have, you've no doubt read the dozens of threads that have thoroughly discussed this topic. The HM concept is that the ghosts, cobwebs and dust have moved in, but the building itself has not run down.

    In movies or amusement parks, the stereotype rundown haunted houses with its torn wallpaper, peeling paint, loose boards and holes in the roof is totally cliche. Walt's idea was that Disneyland's haunted house would be different -- from clean paint and fresh wallpaper to the perfectly-pressed uniforms of the CMs.
    Ultimately my point is that this is such a non-issue it is silly. How many years might have passed before someone even noticed this little tear in the paper in a corner of the room? I don't believe it is deliberate, just an accident. But such a tiny thing that it really does not detract from the show, in my opinion.

    Edit: Heck, to me it makes it look more real. Even lived in houses can have a little paint or wallpaper damage in some corner somewhere.

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    Re: Peeling wallpaper in the Haunted Mansion, intentional or not?

    I have questions along the same lines. Just how big is this "tear." How far away is the corner it is in. Can you see it with the naked eye with no external lighting? Would you see it if you weren't looking for it?

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    Re: Peeling wallpaper in the Haunted Mansion, intentional or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Melonballer View Post
    Ultimately my point is that this is such a non-issue it is silly. How many years might have passed before someone even noticed this little tear in the paper in a corner of the room? I don't believe it is deliberate, just an accident. But such a tiny thing that it really does not detract from the show.
    Your post is virtually a direct quote from the hundreds, if not thousands, of posts that called Al Lutz silly every time he posted a picture of scratched paint, rusted railings and burned-out lightbulbs back in the days of Usenet.

    Nothing changes. For some Disneyland fans, the priority is upholding the standards and values of the company that built Disneyland. For others, it's excusing the company that currently profits from it.

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    Re: Peeling wallpaper in the Haunted Mansion, intentional or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wiggins View Post
    Your post is virtually a direct quote from the hundreds, if not thousands, of posters that called Al Lutz silly every time he posted a picture of scratched paint, rusted railings and burned-out lightbulbs back in the days of Usenet.
    Great. That means hundreds, if not thousands, of people would agree with me.

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    Re: Peeling wallpaper in the Haunted Mansion, intentional or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGrimGrinner View Post
    I have questions along the same lines. Just how big is this "tear." How far away is the corner it is in. Can you see it with the naked eye with no external lighting? Would you see it if you weren't looking for it?
    Good questions.

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