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About LinkBacksAwww, why? It's been turned into everything else alreadyOriginally Posted by DrAlice
so I'll stop here and resist the urge to turn the thread into Theme Park Horticulture 101.Why not horticulture? Hehe.
Awww, why? It's been turned into everything else alreadyso I'll stop here and resist the urge to turn the thread into Theme Park Horticulture 101.
Our revels now are ended. These our actors, As I foretold you, were all spirits and Are melted into air, into thin air: And, like the baseless fabric of this vision, The cloud-capp'd towers, the gorgeous palaces, The solemn temples, the great globe itself, Yea, all which it inherit, shall dissolve And, like this insubstantial pageant faded, Leave not a rack behind. We are such stuff As dreams are made on, and our little life Is rounded with a sleep. mycroft16 on Twitter
There have been a number of people who claim a wide range of explanations. I personally believe that the simplest explanation makes the most sense - it's also in line with the SOP when it comes to projects like this:
1) Designers in the blue sky phase create sketches and models based on what they'd love to see. At this stage, money is of little consideration and it's more focused on exploring all the different possibilities, so they can visualize many different ideas.
2) Ideas are refined, elements are prioritized, and the money people say "you can only do this, this, and this, and here's how much money might have available."
3) Designers go back and flesh out their ideas with a more concrete budget in mind
4) New models, new concept art, and new computer generated models get built, this time along with people who can better calculate the costs of the project based on the designs
5) Budgets get analyzed and final approval goes through
There are many more intermediate steps, but my point in this list is that the model seen there - the one with the plussing of nearly every element of the entire Pier, was a "step #1" model. Thus the reason why you don't see it being built.
It's not as simple as saying "they shifted the budget elsewhere" or that they "cut back on the design." The blue sky phase always shoots far above and beyond anything you will ever see in the final approved designs.
^^well to be fair when WDI made the presentation the budget for the project was much higher and the board only approved a portion of the original proposal. WDI had to go back and make changes so that they could work with the money that was allocated to them.
Simba is pretty much correct, WDI made a presentation that needed a certain amount of money but where only given a portion of what they needed.
The good thig is that no good idea goes to waste, WDI and Burbank is determine to slowly transform the whole park and try to match some of those original ideas. who knows maybe when the budget is available the final product for that area of the boardwalk will be even more amazing
They most likely knew that they wouldn't get everything they wanted and already new what things they would cut till later. As they get little upgrade and update budgets, we'll see more and more of these things come to fruition. Phase I isn't the end of the DCA makeover by a long shot.
Our revels now are ended. These our actors, As I foretold you, were all spirits and Are melted into air, into thin air: And, like the baseless fabric of this vision, The cloud-capp'd towers, the gorgeous palaces, The solemn temples, the great globe itself, Yea, all which it inherit, shall dissolve And, like this insubstantial pageant faded, Leave not a rack behind. We are such stuff As dreams are made on, and our little life Is rounded with a sleep. mycroft16 on Twitter
So True MyCroft!
The days are numbered for the items below, its just a matter of determing how many more months / years that these facilities remain unchanged.
- The queue for Screamin'
- Pavilion for Carousel
- Hyperion facade
- Paradise Pier Shopping area
WALT'S DISNEYLAND DEDICATION SPEECH! - To all who come to this happy place, welcome! Disneyland is your land. Here age relives fond memories of the past, and here youth can savour the challenge and promise of the future. Disneyland is dedicated to the ideals, the dreams, and the hard facts that have created America, with the hope that it will become a source of joy, and inspiration to all the world.
I say go for it. The foliage is part of the DCA remake, so technically it could be part of the tracker. We've seen people talk about every little nut and bolt (literally) in regards to the construction of "World of Color," so horticulture should be no different. I know I'd be interested to read what you have to say.It does depend on the plant, and it depends upon the tree size. Some plants are perfectly happy being root-bound, and others will die after a few months in the same conditions. I could go into lots more detail, but I doubt anyone cares, so I'll stop here and resist the urge to turn the thread into Theme Park Horticulture 101.
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Also, there would be no way to have the wrap-around boardwalk, with a couple of the 'lighthouse' structures for WoC lighting/projection, in their current positions. Whether that is permanently the case, or if some of the rigs they contain could eventually could be incorporated into a future wrap-around boardwalk, is a matter of debate. (So, of course, debate it we will!
Dead Mice Tell No Tails!
Money may have been a part of it, but WoC logisitics certainly would have really altered any boardwalk that would or could have been installed around the Fun Wheel.Also, there would be no way to have the wrap-around boardwalk, with a couple of the 'lighthouse' structures for WoC lighting/projection, in their current positions. Whether that is permanently the case, or if some of the rigs they contain could eventually could be incorporated into a future wrap-around boardwalk, is a matter of debate. (So, of course, debate it we will!
The queue line is another story. The ride still deserves a grander marquee than it has as well.
WALT'S DISNEYLAND DEDICATION SPEECH! - To all who come to this happy place, welcome! Disneyland is your land. Here age relives fond memories of the past, and here youth can savour the challenge and promise of the future. Disneyland is dedicated to the ideals, the dreams, and the hard facts that have created America, with the hope that it will become a source of joy, and inspiration to all the world.
If they really wanted to, they could have found a way to incorporate the lighthouse structures (that are right up against the fun wheel) into the structure for a wrap-around boardwalk. At this point however, it does make sense that they decided to use that money elsewhere, considering we don't even have the shops redone yet.
Why are there only attractions from Paradise Pier? Will there be multiple designs for the different lands in DCA?I am just going to leave this here, let you all talk about the logo and such.
I also like how an ODV cart and a bench are so central to CA Adventure...
It's just a merchandise logo. As FutureImagineer183 said when they first got logo in, it's all PP as that is focus with it being done in this phase of expansion by Spring
You would have to imagine that in the process of the imagineers thinking of ideas for Paradise Pier that they looked at finding a way to block out the outside world (convention center).
@Monorailorange
By the T-shirt design, it looks like we're keeping the sun burst cut-outs around the light poles.
Women, they make the highs higher and the lows more frequent.
Yuck.
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