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    Star Tours vs. The Star Trek Experience

    When Star Tours opened, it was the most complete Disneyland attraction, especially in the way the narrative fictionalized the audience and involved them in a non-personal way.

    The Star Trek Experience at the Las Vegas Hilton subsequently opened and was notable for having even more complexity and theatricality than Star Tours.

    Without revealing much information, does the re-imagined Star Tours attempt to, in any way, top the ambitious, but defunct, Star Trek attraction? Everything I've seen so far makes me think not.

    Who has experienced both?

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    Re: Star Tours vs. The Star Trek Experience

    Having experienced both, I can definitely say that Star Trek: The Experience was a much more complete experience than Star Tours in every way except the queue- even then, that loss of immersion(going to a Star Trek TV museum as the queue) was worked into the plot of the ride, and indeed, added greatly to the overall story. The Star Trek Simulators were smoother and much better at replicating the feeling of flight than those of Star Tours, and the video, I felt, was more aligned with the movement of the craft.

    It is my great hope that Star Tours II will be more in line with Star Trek: The Experience than Star Tours I.

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    Re: Star Tours vs. The Star Trek Experience

    Star Trek: The Experience also had a notorious wait time. It was mitigated somewhat by all the items you could look at, but that only works the first few times.

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    Re: Star Tours vs. The Star Trek Experience

    Long wait times for Star Trek? Yes, but it was worth it.
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    Re: Star Tours vs. The Star Trek Experience

    Wish I made it out to it! I just wish that another attraction would use the Teleporter "technology" in some form.

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    Re: Star Tours vs. The Star Trek Experience

    I think what gave Trek its edge was the walking part of the tour. The simulator was ultimately just a small part of the attraction. There was also a major part where you were aboard the Enterprise and walked through the bridge, turbolift, corridor, transporter room and shuttlebay.
    Star Tours had the immersive queue area once you got in the building, but it didn't always seem like part of the adventure.

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    Re: Star Tours vs. The Star Trek Experience

    If you are comparing overall experience, Star Trek takes the cake. You can't win against live actors in character and a walking tour of the ship. The the transporting was beyond belief. It even held up on repeated visits.

    Even if you are just looking at the simulator itself, Star Trek may get a slight edge as the screen went beyond the dimensions of the ship itself, giving a more immersive effect. Although Star Tours was arguably smoother.

    Even the exit of the Star Trek experience was hilarious with the janitor!

    I was glad to take the Behind the Scenes tour only months before it shut down.
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    Re: Star Tours vs. The Star Trek Experience

    Don't forget about the short lived Borg experience at the Las Vegas Hilton. I really liked that as well.


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    The Star Trek thing is gone in Vegas? Rats, I was hoping to get to it one of these lightyears...

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    Re: Star Tours vs. The Star Trek Experience

    I was never a Trekkie, but even I thought the Star Trek Experience was pretty good. You have to know the surrounding casino was themed to Star Trek plus the monorail was just outside the casino. It reminded me of Tomorrowland. The Bombardier built M-VI monorails are even the cousins of WDW's monorails!

    I think the walkthrough part of the two attractions were a strong point. The actors did a great job. The older attraction unfortunately became very dated very fast. Apparently, we took a trip back in time because the original MGM lion was visible among other demolished sights and a lack of yet to be built properties like Paris and Bellagio. Borg Invasion was interesting, though the walkthrough part seemed like Alien.

    There was talk a few years ago of moving the experience downtown, but nothing has happened.

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    Re: Star Tours vs. The Star Trek Experience

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    The Star Trek thing is gone in Vegas? Rats, I was hoping to get to it one of these lightyears...
    Yep. Closed 3 years ago. The first and only time I went to see it was in June 2008 when I stayed at the Hilton (hotel guests got a discount)

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    I was never a Trekkie, but even I thought the Star Trek Experience was pretty good. You have to know the surrounding casino was themed to Star Trek plus the monorail was just outside the casino. It reminded me of Tomorrowland. The Bombardier built M-VI monorails are even the cousins of WDW's monorails!

    I think the walkthrough part of the two attractions were a strong point. The actors did a great job. The older attraction unfortunately became very dated very fast. Apparently, we took a trip back in time because the original MGM lion was visible among other demolished sights and a lack of yet to be built properties like Paris and Bellagio. Borg Invasion was interesting, though the walkthrough part seemed like Alien.

    There was talk a few years ago of moving the experience downtown, but nothing has happened.
    I didn't think about tomorrowland until you said that! LOL, some kind of cloning happened when the LV monorail was installed.

    Last I heard, plans to move the expierence to downtown has been scrapped. Who knows who would be willing to pick it up. Heck, if Cedar Fair wants to run it again, they can put it near Knotts in Buena Park.



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    Re: Star Tours vs. The Star Trek Experience

    The Star Trek Experience (we went there around 2000) was far more extensive and immersive, with things such as being "transported", the bridge set of the Enterprise, and the simulator ride. They also had a rather large collection of people in costume, including some Ferengi. Not to mention Quark's bar downstairs (anyone for some nice Klingon Gagh?)

    The times we went there, there never were massive crowds; but I sort of doubt the entire "experience" would fit in or even work in a place like Disneyland.

    It's sad that it closed. I wonder what they did with everything?

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    Re: Star Tours vs. The Star Trek Experience

    I grew up in Washington State and never got a chance to see the Star Trek Experience. I really wish I did though. Star Trek: The Next Generation is one of my all-time favorite shows. That transporter effect would be a perfect elment to use in a TRON attraction if Disney ever builds one. But does anyone remember this episode of Tim Babb's Kingdom Comedy that featured the subject of this very thread?



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    Re: Star Tours vs. The Star Trek Experience

    The Star Trek Experience was AMAZING! And JesterMn is right - a big part of it was the live actors. When you ran into the Borg drone in the corridor, it was easy to forget it was play-acting!

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    Re: Star Tours vs. The Star Trek Experience

    Yeah a hard core Trekkie here and I did the Star Trek Experience only once, waaaay back in 98. It was the only time I made it to Vegas since they closed it. Anyway, great experience!! The transporter trick alone made it completely worth it. The actual simulator ride part was just so-so, but the ride altogether really made it worthwhile!

    I couldnt believe it when I heard they were closing it, but not a huge surprise. For one, it wasnt cheap! A single ticket was $25, for ONE trip only. DL at the time, you got in the place for $40 and could ride ST for 12 hours straight if you wanted to for that price. Only Trek fans would do repeat visits to make it worthwhile. Also besides being outdated, it was in a hotel that wasnt on the strip. It was a pain to get to and I think unless you went JUST to do it, most missed out on it. Most tourists wouldnt (sorry) trek all that way for it. If it was MGM or something, it wouldve got more exposure.

    But for a Trek fan, it was something everyone should do at least once if they had the chance. Recreating the Enterprise and even parts of DS9 with Quarks bar was a dream for any geek!

    And no ST cant compare, mainly because they just wouldnt have the room to do what the experience did. It would be cool to have a more intricate storyline like popping up on the death star or something and fighting your way off through the star speeder, but that's a much bigger project. And ST is fun the way it is personnally. I think if you did a repeat of the experience constantly, after awhile it would probably feel old to me.

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