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    Re: Disneyland Resort Project Tracker 3

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    Not when that money could be spent toward something new, fresh, and never seen before in a theme park....
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    I believe it is meant that it would be hundreds of thousands just to make it the people mover again, not to make it a new ride.
    That's not exactly relevant. They are going to have to spend millions, not hundreds of thousands, of dollars just restoring the tracks to include an attraction whether it's original or not, again when you have a budget of 80-120 Million dollars, it is chump change for Disney.


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    Re: Disneyland Resort Project Tracker 3

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    That's not exactly relevant. They are going to have to spend millions, not hundreds of thousands, of dollars just restoring the tracks to include an attraction whether it's original or not, again when you have a budget of 80-120 Million dollars, it is chump change for Disney.
    Of course it's relevant. Why would Disney waste money on bringing back on old attraction when that money could be spent on something completely groundbreaking. The PeopleMover is not coming back. Disney has other, and arguably better, plans for Tomorrowland.

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    Re: Disneyland Resort Project Tracker 3

    I'm wondering if the old Peoplemover track is going to be removed, and then completely replaced by something new, like an overhead walkway or...? That would still fall in line with the info that's being provided here. If TL really does want to significantly expand, up may be one direction that they could go. An overhead walkway might play into that and, if it's well designed, could provide an improved form of the aesthetic, three-dimensional presence (and shade) that the Peoplemover track currently provides, as well as providing for easier traffic flow through a normally crowded corridor.
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    Re: Disneyland Resort Project Tracker 3

    Overhead walkways seem loaded with safety and access issues. Would the entire walkway have to be covered in chain link to prevent dumb people from doing dumb things?

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    Again, that depends on how it's made. With current construction methods, I'm sure that a beautifully designed bridge - which would have to support people but not a ride mechanism - is quite possible. As to safety for people on the bridge, there are many options for theme appropriate hand-rails that don't incorporate anything as crude as chain link. For example, there could be sculpted, swooshy hand-rails topped with futuristic planters or lights. Or (less likely) the entire thing could be enclosed in a tunnel made of strong tempered glass (with air conditioning). The possibilities abound!
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    Re: Disneyland Resort Project Tracker 3

    Quote Originally Posted by disneylandfan95 View Post
    Of course it's relevant. Why would Disney waste money on bringing back on old attraction when that money could be spent on something completely groundbreaking. The PeopleMover is not coming back. Disney has other, and arguably better, plans for Tomorrowland.
    Im with you on this one.

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    Re: Disneyland Resort Project Tracker 3

    Quote Originally Posted by BiggestDisneyFan View Post
    An overhead walkway might play into that and, if it's well designed, could provide an improved form of the aesthetic, three-dimensional presence (and shade) that the Peoplemover track currently provides, as well as providing for easier traffic flow through a normally crowded corridor.
    See, I also agree that the Peoplemover tracks provide a nice 3D presence to Tomorrowland (obviously enhanced way more by moving vehicles) and for those reasons, I hope there is some way to keep a portion of it. Tomorrowland's entrance without those tracks would be so boring (like DLP's and MK's) and I hope any decision is made with conscious regard to the beauty of the tracks.
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    See, I also agree that the Peoplemover tracks provide a nice 3D presence to Tomorrowland (obviously enhanced way more by moving vehicles) and for those reasons, I hope there is some way to keep a portion of it.
    You're assuming that in removing it they have no plans to replace it with something. It's possible that simply scrapping the whole track and wrecking balling it and building something ground up, specifically for the new idea is far cheaper than trying to retrofit what is there.

    Just because something is likely going away, does not mean that nothing is coming back in its place. WDI still understands the principles that prompted Walt to put it there in the first place. Having motion elevated above the land, moving in and out of it draws people in and excites them. They get that. It's a principle I'm sure we'll see continued in the future with Tomorrowland. Just not with the PM track that is currently there.

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    Re: Disneyland Resort Project Tracker 3

    Quote Originally Posted by disneylandfan95 View Post
    Of course it's relevant. Why would Disney waste money on bringing back on old attraction when that money could be spent on something completely groundbreaking. The PeopleMover is not coming back. Disney has other, and arguably better, plans for Tomorrowland.
    They did it with Mulholland Madness/Goofy's Sky School

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    Re: Disneyland Resort Project Tracker 3

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    They did it with Mulholland Madness/Goofy's Sky School
    I think that's because GSS is a 5-10 year temporary "fix" until that attraction pad gets a new attraction, whereas, presumably, whatever "better plans" they have for TL are permanent.

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    Re: Disneyland Resort Project Tracker 3

    I wonder what the plans are for Alice in Wonderland out door segment. It might be an opportunity to really upgrade the experience with some elements such as themed lighting with LED's.
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    Re: Disneyland Resort Project Tracker 3

    Quote Originally Posted by DLFan1995 View Post
    They did it with Mulholland Madness/Goofy's Sky School
    That is a different situation entirely. MM -> GSS was a temporary theme to get it by until the plans for that area are ready to implement. The budget was not super large, nor should it have been. The budget, just to get the PM tracks into any sort of shape to use again would dwarf the GSS budget.

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    Re: Disneyland Resort Project Tracker 3

    Quote Originally Posted by mycroft16 View Post
    Just because something is likely going away, does not mean that nothing is coming back in its place. WDI still understands the principles that prompted Walt to put it there in the first place. Having motion elevated above the land, moving in and out of it draws people in and excites them. They get that. It's a principle I'm sure we'll see continued in the future with Tomorrowland. Just not with the PM track that is currently there.
    You obviously bring up a good point. I admit to being a lifelong member of the Angry PeopleMover Fans with Pitchforks (APFP), so I should be fair and state that it is always a possibility that the track is demolished and rebuilt.

    But looking at it from a practical angle, if the track is demolished, I wonder if management and WDI would really see the incentive in rebuilding it. Instead, it would probably be more justifiable into focusing all resources into a big, successful E-Ticket for Tomorrowland without worrying about affecting the future of an attraction using those overhead tracks. At the end of the day, Tomorrowland doesn't NEED the overhead tracks and I think practicality might be the final nail in the coffin of those of us zealously demanding the PeopleMover.
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    Re: Disneyland Resort Project Tracker 3

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    Instead, it would probably be more justifiable into focusing all resources into a big, successful E-Ticket for Tomorrowland without worrying about affecting the future of an attraction using those overhead tracks. At the end of the day, Tomorrowland doesn't NEED the overhead tracks and I think practicality might be the final nail in the coffin of those of us zealously demanding the PeopleMover.
    This is actually exactly what I'm saying. We may not be getting a PM back, but there is something coming, and the PM tracks are just in the way of pretty much the whole land. So I don't see them building the PM tracks back. But I do think that WDI understands the need for motion and kinetics around the land so I do think that something will be built back. It may not be in the same places, or along the same route, but I do think something will come back, as part of a successful E-ticket for the land. But you are right, it really isn't going to make a come back. They have way to many new ideas and new things that could be done that push far further than the PM ever could to consider resurrecting the PM.

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    Re: Disneyland Resort Project Tracker 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Tomorrowland Tourist View Post
    See, I also agree that the Peoplemover tracks provide a nice 3D presence to Tomorrowland (obviously enhanced way more by moving vehicles) and for those reasons, I hope there is some way to keep a portion of it. Tomorrowland's entrance without those tracks would be so boring (like DLP's and MK's) and I hope any decision is made with conscious regard to the beauty of the tracks.
    I never did got to ride the Peoplemover, it was removed shortly after I was born, but my mom was a huge fan of it! However, I totally agree with you that the even empty tracks just add something, a certain feel. I too hope they keep the tracks or part of the tracks or tear them down completely and add some new tracks for a new ride. I just think they add a little something special- Tomorrowland doesn't feel as empty
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