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    Re: Disney California Adventure Project Tracker 12

    Quote Originally Posted by k_peek_2000 View Post
    Lets not start with this whole, is it going to be 3D or not thing again. Either way, 90% of the rockwork on the mountain range is flat cliff, so it's not like it would really be out of place. Theming is themeing. Problems are being addressed. The park is being beautified. That is all that matters.
    That's all that matters... to you. Yes, the park is being beautified, but some of us care about the details.

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    Re: Disney California Adventure Project Tracker 12

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojave View Post
    That's all that matters... to you. Yes, the park is being beautified, but some of us care about the details.
    That is a bit one-dimensional. Everybody in this thread cares about the details. But caring, and trying to pick something, we know little about, apart are two completing different things. I am sure the wall will be great, whether its cliff (which would be more in theme to PP) or has a dynamic rockwork.
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    Re: Disney California Adventure Project Tracker 12

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    Re: Disney California Adventure Project Tracker 12

    Since topic seems to be concentrating on backside of rock work, I was curious what the guys in picture are doing. Are additional support being put in for the new rock work?

    Also, does anyone else think they'll start more heavy construction/installation on the backside once Screamin goes down for refurb since parts of the coaster track are within close proximity
    Last edited by SoCalFan; 09-02-2011 at 12:51 PM.

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    Re: Disney California Adventure Project Tracker 12

    @bigwavedave: 'Standard' numbers just look better in the new logo. Also, I believe Master Gracey said that he never really planned on there being so many posts about DCA project tracking, and therefore a need for so many iterations of the tracker. He didn't want to end up with a DCA Project Tracker XXIIV.
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    Re: Disney California Adventure Project Tracker 12

    Quote Originally Posted by BiggestDisneyFan View Post
    I don't think so. This screen capture I made from the larger version of Mint's pic (which I blew up some more, in my browser) clearly shows a light-blue plane around the outside of the fountain, slightly above some regular, grey concrete.



    To my relatively untrained eye, it almost looks like some kind of backer board that they could lay tile on. It definitely doesn't match the blue in the tiles inside the fountain. Anybody have any more informed ideas?
    Thank you! You explained what I was trying to say much better. There definitely is a clear line between the blue and concrete, which is why I was bewildered. It would be great if they added tile! It would look great and would explain why that sidewalk is flush with the street(although it could just be for wheelchair access). Anymore guesses?
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    Re: Disney California Adventure Project Tracker 12

    Quote Originally Posted by k_peek_2000 View Post
    That is a bit one-dimensional. Everybody in this thread cares about the details. But caring, and trying to pick something, we know little about, apart are two completing different things. I am sure the wall will be great, whether its cliff (which would be more in theme to PP) or has a dynamic rockwork.
    I think there's a bit of bias on these boards that anything "flatesque" is necessarily bad and that only something looking identical to the front of the rock work is suitable. I don't know if that's necessarily the case. The backside of the mountain range is dealing with a very different surrounding environment than the front and perhaps some sort of cliff look is the best choice. Carsland style rock work may look funny from Paradise Pier, but a nicely designed cliff may look better.

    I think the key is as long as they put the proper effort and detail into whichever option they chose, whether it's very 3D or more of a cliff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojave View Post
    That's all that matters... to you. Yes, the park is being beautified, but some of us care about the details.
    Trying to figure out what was planned and what wasn't planned at least a year ago isn't a detail. Honestly, who cares what the original plan was? It's getting done one way or another.

    Harry Potter at IOA is considered one of the greatest themed lands of all time--and yet, from anywhere in the park other than the land itself, you can see a huge white showbuilding sticking out of the 'castle'. At least this is getting something better than that

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    Re: Disney California Adventure Project Tracker 12

    Quote Originally Posted by k_peek_2000 View Post
    That is a bit one-dimensional. Everybody in this thread cares about the details. But caring, and trying to pick something, we know little about, apart are two completing different things. I am sure the wall will be great, whether its cliff (which would be more in theme to PP) or has a dynamic rockwork.
    Cliffs can be very much three dimensional. Just look at the front side. There is really no need to make it an either/or issue - it can be both.

    Obviously, a seaside cliff would make sense to the PP view, nobody is questioning that. I live in San Diego and we have one of the most perfect examples of seaside cliffs at Torrey Pines. There are a lot of cliffs but they have depth, they are not flat.

    There is also the issue of (3D) perspective. Will it be like Torrey Pines or will they try to show hills behind the cliff, will it have depth?

    Picking apart things we know nothing about is called speculation and we like to do a lot of that in this forum. You should have seen the speculation that surrounded the Pillar of Mystery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TylerDurden View Post
    Trying to figure out what was planned and what wasn't planned at least a year ago isn't a detail. Honestly, who cares what the original plan was? It's getting done one way or another.
    It isn't 'a' detail, it's many many details! What was planned, how did it evolve, why did they change it, how do they make the changes fit in with what has already been built, etc. - these things are very interesting to me. I get it, you and others don't care about that part it, but I and others do. We differ. So what's the big deal.
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    Re: Disney California Adventure Project Tracker 12

    Quote Originally Posted by TylerDurden View Post
    Trying to figure out what was planned and what wasn't planned at least a year ago isn't a detail. Honestly, who cares what the original plan was? It's getting done one way or another.
    Obviously some people do care about this, or the debate wouldn't be happening. Often times the progression of a plan can be as interesting to some as the actual plan itself. Just because you don't see the reason for interest in something does not mean that the interest others have is invalid or less worth for discussion.

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    Re: Disney California Adventure Project Tracker 12

    Quote Originally Posted by mycroft16 View Post
    Obviously some people do care about this, or the debate wouldn't be happening. Often times the progression of a plan can be as interesting to some as the actual plan itself. Just because you don't see the reason for interest in something does not mean that the interest others have is invalid or less worth for discussion.
    I didn't say it was, but the 'debate' seems more like criticisms. Honestly, I think it is interesting to see how plans evolve and I love looking at concept art. But all that really matters is what's happening now and for people to get so heated about what is not happening just seems unnecessary. I'm sorry, however, if it came off as rude.

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    Re: Disney California Adventure Project Tracker 12

    It's sometimes humorous to see some people in here worry about details that they have no control over. I mean... for goodness sake. Why worry about a fountain being a certain color or not? Just wait until the whole thing is finished.

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    Re: Disney California Adventure Project Tracker 12

    Quote Originally Posted by TylerDurden View Post
    I didn't say it was, but the 'debate' seems more like criticisms. Honestly, I think it is interesting to see how plans evolve and I love looking at concept art. But all that really matters is what's happening now and for people to get so heated about what is not happening just seems unnecessary. I'm sorry, however, if it came off as rude.
    Not rude... just replying to your opinion with mine.

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    I only brought it up because people were discussing Lasseter and his influence, and I kind of wonder if the focus was so strong on the inside of Carsland that they totally forgot how those cliffs would look from PP. I still think it is a valid point of discussion.

    Is Lasseter's influence strong enough such that other things are getting overlooked? In this case they are "fixing" it, but it still makes me a little worried about priorities.
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    Re: Disney California Adventure Project Tracker 12

    Quote Originally Posted by TylerDurden View Post
    I didn't say it was, but the 'debate' seems more like criticisms. Honestly, I think it is interesting to see how plans evolve and I love looking at concept art. But all that really matters is what's happening now and for people to get so heated about what is not happening just seems unnecessary. I'm sorry, however, if it came off as rude.
    If my interest in the evolution and details of the DCA projects seemed like criticism, it certainly wasn't meant to be. And, again for me, it has nothing to do with what is not happening, but in how and why it changed. I think maybe you are just misunderstanding me.

    Quote Originally Posted by film975 View Post
    It's sometimes humorous to see some people in here worry about details that they have no control over. I mean... for goodness sake. Why worry about a fountain being a certain color or not? Just wait until the whole thing is finished.
    It's not worry at all. Who said they are worried about the fountain color? We're 'interested' in the fountain color. Big difference.

    We're in this forum on project tracking because we want to track the project, not wait until the whole thing is finished.

    It's ironic we're debating the merits of project tracking in a project tracker.

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