Page 17 of 71 FirstFirst ... 714151617181920274267 ... LastLast
Results 241 to 255 of 1062
  1. #241

    • Hiding from the Sheeple
    • Offline

    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Posts
    591

    Re: Club 33 Membership Changes for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Osky View Post
    Disney is pretty much in a damned if they do, damned if they don't situation when it comes to the club. The sentiment is that things need to change because service keeps going down hill and perks are vanishing, yet the same people are up in arms if they change anything. Go figure.
    Ahhh…just when I thought we were friends! This is not true, the members are damned. Either they accept whatever the club throws their way or they lose their investment. It is because of this that change from management will never take place. Either accept what we give you or get lost is the general attitude. Most of us are fine with change. I don’t care about a raise in annual dues, nor do I care about a larger initiation fee. What I do care about is the membership base has done their part year after year while the club continues to get by with excuses and promises that will never be. Show me you can deliver on your promises and then make any change that is needed to benefit the operation of the club.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Disneylandfan View Post
    Now that would be nice if Disney opened up the Club like that, I've always wanted to eat at Club 33.
    Unless I read it wrong, I don’t think her post was intended that way. She meant guests of members who have no interest in visiting the park would be escorted to and from the club eliminating the need for park admission. Similar to how they do things when you bring in an outside bottle of booze or when your dining runs past park closing.

  2. #242

    • Minion
    • Offline

    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    6 hours from the House of Mouse
    Posts
    3,540

    Re: Club 33 Membership Changes for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Disneylandfan View Post
    Now that would be nice if Disney opened up the Club like that, I've always wanted to eat at Club 33.
    You would still need a member to make your ressie, you just wouldn't get a comped day.
    If you see a cute yellow lab puppy with a yellow cape, WAVE! It might be us! (Or it may be someone else that lurks here!) Thank you for asking before you pet! Next trip, Dec 22-Jan 3rd.

  3. #243

    • Knight of Naughtyness
    • Offline

    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    +33° 48' 39.59", -117° 55' 16.54"
    Posts
    5,594

    Re: Club 33 Membership Changes for 2012

    How does the club go about addressing the member concern of overcrowding at the club and not being able to make reservations because the club is booked without somehow limiting the number of reservations that a member can make? That is just one example of what I am talking about.
    -Osky

    Quote Originally Posted by sleepyjeff View Post
    Before we totally disregard extremism; lets remember the lesson of the 3 little pigs.

    The moderate pig lost his house to the wolf too
    .-- .. .-.. .-.. / .- -. -.-- --- -. . / -... --- - .... . .-. / - --- / - .-. .- -. ... .-.. .- - . / - .... .. ... ..--..

  4. #244

    • Minion
    • Offline

    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    6 hours from the House of Mouse
    Posts
    3,540

    Re: Club 33 Membership Changes for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Disneynut View Post
    Unless I read it wrong, I don’t think her post was intended that way. She meant guests of members who have no interest in visiting the park would be escorted to and from the club eliminating the need for park admission. Similar to how they do things when you bring in an outside bottle of booze or when your dining runs past park closing.
    You read me right.

    ---------- Post added 01-04-2012 at 04:45 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Osky View Post
    How does the club go about addressing the member concern of overcrowding at the club and not being able to make reservations because the club is booked without somehow limiting the number of reservations that a member can make? That is just one example of what I am talking about.
    They could have started by letting members know they feel there is a problem.
    If you see a cute yellow lab puppy with a yellow cape, WAVE! It might be us! (Or it may be someone else that lurks here!) Thank you for asking before you pet! Next trip, Dec 22-Jan 3rd.

  5. #245

    • Hiding from the Sheeple
    • Offline

    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Posts
    591

    Re: Club 33 Membership Changes for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Osky View Post
    How does the club go about addressing the member concern of overcrowding at the club and not being able to make reservations because the club is booked without somehow limiting the number of reservations that a member can make? That is just one example of what I am talking about.
    Malcon10t beat me to it...thanks for the assist!

    You address this with the members you feel are abusing the system. If it were me, my solution would be simple...members can make reservations for any group that will be escorted by the member 45 days out. If the member is not present on that day, no admission will be granted for anyone in the party. Members may make reservations for guests 15 days out. Everyone knows the limited space in the club so plan ahead. This would ensure members get first priority for any table and guests come second to the member at all times. This would still allow more than enough time for the remaining tables to be booked for guests. It will allow the members to dine at the club when they want and force the guests to dine at the club as space permits. Problem solved.
    Last edited by Disneynut; 01-04-2012 at 04:57 PM. Reason: added quote

  6. #246

    • Knight of Naughtyness
    • Offline

    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    +33° 48' 39.59", -117° 55' 16.54"
    Posts
    5,594

    Re: Club 33 Membership Changes for 2012

    I agree that the idea you propose would be much better. But it is still a limitation then on what the members once had, is it not?
    -Osky

    Quote Originally Posted by sleepyjeff View Post
    Before we totally disregard extremism; lets remember the lesson of the 3 little pigs.

    The moderate pig lost his house to the wolf too
    .-- .. .-.. .-.. / .- -. -.-- --- -. . / -... --- - .... . .-. / - --- / - .-. .- -. ... .-.. .- - . / - .... .. ... ..--..

  7. #247

    • Hiding from the Sheeple
    • Offline

    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Posts
    591

    Re: Club 33 Membership Changes for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Osky View Post
    I agree that the idea you propose would be much better. But it is still a limitation then on what the members once had, is it not?
    In fairness to you, maybe in the midst of all my complaining I did not explain what I am unhappy about. I am not in love with the change of limited comp passes, but I can live with it. I do think that members should be afforded every opportunity to dine at the club and receive priority over any guest reservation.

    What bothers me is having to swallow more changes and less benefits before they have corrected any of the issues that concern everyone. Management is akin to that rotten friend who will always pick up the check "next time". We all know it is nothing more than lip service. Change happens, I can live with that. I just want them to live up to their end of the bargain before asking me to give more from my end.

    It's really not complicated and something all of us would expect from any relationship. Give me what you have been promising for years before you ask more from me.

  8. #248

    • Knight of Naughtyness
    • Offline

    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    +33° 48' 39.59", -117° 55' 16.54"
    Posts
    5,594

    Re: Club 33 Membership Changes for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Disneynut View Post
    Management is akin to that rotten friend who will always pick up the check "next time".
    I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today!
    -Osky

    Quote Originally Posted by sleepyjeff View Post
    Before we totally disregard extremism; lets remember the lesson of the 3 little pigs.

    The moderate pig lost his house to the wolf too
    .-- .. .-.. .-.. / .- -. -.-- --- -. . / -... --- - .... . .-. / - --- / - .-. .- -. ... .-.. .- - . / - .... .. ... ..--..

  9. #249

    • socal native
    • Offline

    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Freeway close
    Posts
    500

    Re: Club 33 Membership Changes for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Osky View Post
    I see tremendous benefit in calling the club concierge and saying something along the lines of:

    I will be bringing the family to Disneyland from March 3rd to the 7th, and would like to stay at the Grand Californian hotel with a theme park view. We would like to have dinner in the club on the 4th and 5th (adults only), and brunch on the 7th with the kids. Please arrange for a VIP tour on the 6th for the family, along with Aunt Norma, and possibly VIP seating for World of Color. Aunt Norma needs a 1-day park hopper ticket. I would also like lunch at the Blue Bayou on the 6th for the family.

    On this trip, we will be celebrating my son's (CJ) birthday. Can you please arrange for a birthday breakfast to be delivered to the room at 7:00AM on the 4th? I think that is it for now. Do you have any suggestions for us?

    ---

    While I could do all of that now, it would take multiple calls to multiple people, and require a lot of my time. A good concierge would make those arrangements for me with a quick conversation, and then would get back to me with a confirmation. I also have to trust that the hotel CMs would know about the Club 33 benefits for hotel upgrades and comps. Based on how things currently are with CMs that do not work directly for the club, I bet that might be challenging. Like I said, not all things are bad. A few of the changes I do not like. However, some of them could make membership in the club much better.
    Not a member of Club 33, and I can (and have) done this before simply by calling the hotel concierge. It was one call to the Disney hotel we were staying at (GCH), and they made reservations for 4 different restaurants, WoC, an early morning tour of DCA, and surprised us with roses and cake for our anniversary. So I have to agree this is not a special perk just for C33 members, just a different phone call to a different location.

  10. #250

    • Minion
    • Offline

    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    6 hours from the House of Mouse
    Posts
    3,540

    Re: Club 33 Membership Changes for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Disneynut View Post
    I still don't know how anyone can find value in the "member services desk" or concierge service. It will take you just as much time to call the club (during business hours) and describe what you want when you are able to call and do the exact same thing yourself for free. You could easily achieve the same result in less time than waiting for a return phone call from *****.
    And losing ***** may be one of the things the members are upset about. ***** and ******** have been mainstays at the club, much like ******** and *******. Along with the other changes, going to the new "Call VIP" instead of the personalized service of ***** is not making members happy. And new members may never know about how nice it was to call someone who recognized your voice and gave personalized service.
    Last edited by dland_lover; 01-04-2012 at 10:00 PM. Reason: Removed Cast Member names, per MiceChat policy.
    If you see a cute yellow lab puppy with a yellow cape, WAVE! It might be us! (Or it may be someone else that lurks here!) Thank you for asking before you pet! Next trip, Dec 22-Jan 3rd.

  11. #251

    • Knight of Naughtyness
    • Offline

    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    +33° 48' 39.59", -117° 55' 16.54"
    Posts
    5,594

    Re: Club 33 Membership Changes for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by elsa View Post
    Not a member of Club 33, and I can (and have) done this before simply by calling the hotel concierge. It was one call to the Disney hotel we were staying at (GCH), and they made reservations for 4 different restaurants, WoC, an early morning tour of DCA, and surprised us with roses and cake for our anniversary. So I have to agree this is not a special perk just for C33 members, just a different phone call to a different location.
    I have used the hotel concierge before, as well as vacation planning to do much of this. However, presumably to use the hotel concierge, you already have to have a reservation at the hotel. Also, the hotel concierge would most likely not be able to book the club-specific perks for you. For instance, I don't see the Grand California Hotel concierge being able to make your club 33 reservations or booking some of your other club perks.

    Again, people are asking for a return to the club Walt created, replete with all of the perks and traditions. A one-stop concierge was one of the original perks. I cannot speak for Disneynut, and I am sure he will speak up, but I am willing to bet he doesn't value the idea of a "member service desk" or concierge service because of what he believes it will mean under current Disney management. However, I am willing to bet that he would find those services valuable if it was implemented like it was in 1967.

    ---------- Post added 01-04-2012 at 09:43 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Malcon10t View Post
    And losing ***** may be one of the things the members are upset about. ***** and ***** have been mainstays at the club, much like ***** and *****. Along with the other changes, going to the new "Call VIP" instead of the personalized service of ***** is not making members happy. And new members may never know about how nice it was to call someone who recognized your voice and gave personalized service.
    I agree with this wholeheartedly. I am sure they are doing this because the "Call VIP" has extra training on the different reservation systems and such. I would much rather see them offer ***** the training and give her access to those systems. ***** should be one of the "concierges," and they should be local to the club.
    Last edited by Osky; 01-04-2012 at 10:28 PM. Reason: Removed CM names
    -Osky

    Quote Originally Posted by sleepyjeff View Post
    Before we totally disregard extremism; lets remember the lesson of the 3 little pigs.

    The moderate pig lost his house to the wolf too
    .-- .. .-.. .-.. / .- -. -.-- --- -. . / -... --- - .... . .-. / - --- / - .-. .- -. ... .-.. .- - . / - .... .. ... ..--..

  12. #252

    •   
    • RCMC: Java Junkie
    • Offline

    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Castro Valley, CA
    Posts
    5,847

    Re: Club 33 Membership Changes for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Disneynut View Post
    Unless I read it wrong, I don’t think her post was intended that way. She meant guests of members who have no interest in visiting the park would be escorted to and from the club eliminating the need for park admission. Similar to how they do things when you bring in an outside bottle of booze or when your dining runs past park closing.
    Ahh, now that sounds more realistic and makes more sense to me now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Malcon10t View Post
    You would still need a member to make your ressie, you just wouldn't get a comped day.
    Is that an offer on your part? Just kidding.

  13. #253

    • New Member
    • Offline

    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Posts
    4

    Re: Club 33 Membership Changes for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Osky View Post
    How does the club go about addressing the member concern of overcrowding at the club and not being able to make reservations because the club is booked without somehow limiting the number of reservations that a member can make? That is just one example of what I am talking about.
    Am I just lucky, I really never had a problem booking reservations (except in December). Many times I called the club when I had my daughter at the park and we got in same day. I do believe they go out of their way when the member attends. But if all of this is about making sure there are enough reservations then why eliminate the +1 benefit. What's that all about?
    Are we affecting the park attendance that much? Maybe they could limit the number of "sign in's" allowed, not eliminate it completely.

  14. #254

    • Hiding from the Sheeple
    • Offline

    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Posts
    591

    Re: Club 33 Membership Changes for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Osky View Post
    However, presumably to use the hotel concierge, you already have to have a reservation at the hotel…Again, people are asking for a return to the club Walt created, replete with all of the perks and traditions. A one-stop concierge was one of the original perks. I cannot speak for Disneynut, and I am sure he will speak up, but I am willing to bet he doesn't value the idea of a "member service desk" or concierge service because of what he believes it will mean under current Disney management. However, I am willing to bet that he would find those services valuable if it was implemented like it was in 1967…I am sure they are doing this because the "Call VIP" has extra training on the different reservation systems and such.
    Once again we find common ground. First, it is a misnomer that you must be a guest of a hotel to use the concierge. The concierge in almost any hotel will assist anyone. I agree that they won’t be able to service your Club 33 reservation requests but I would trust them greatly in all areas as they usually account for gratuities as a large percentage of their income.

    Second, you are correct I would LOVE to see a concierge much like the one available in 1967. You could not be more correct in your statement above. The problem with this alleged perk is the current management. I am a Disney realist and I know in my heart this is nothing more than a person from Disney Dining (or similar department) who will sell me park upgrades. If this proves to be incorrect I will be very happy. Already, you have both members and guests complaining that several long-standing Club 33 administration cast members won’t participate in this process so I question it already.

    Again, if it is done correctly, I love it. Let me tell you where it is done correctly, on the Disney Cruise Line. I can’t even begin to tell you how these people have pulled off the impossible for us on our many cruises. Private tours of non-public areas, meet & greets with characters and celebrities, private dining, bridge tours, private parties and more. They have come through time and time again. As for Club 33, we will have to wait and pray for the best.
    Last edited by Disneynut; 01-05-2012 at 01:34 PM. Reason: Spelling

  15. #255

    • Knight of Naughtyness
    • Offline

    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    +33° 48' 39.59", -117° 55' 16.54"
    Posts
    5,594

    Re: Club 33 Membership Changes for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Disneynut View Post
    Once again we find common ground. First, it is a misnomer that you must be a guest of a hotel to use the concierge. The concierge in almost any hotel will assist anyone.
    Is that true with Disney? I have used hotel concierges at hotels that I was not staying at, but I had a Disney CM tell me that concierge services at Disney hotels are only for people who pay for concierge access. In other words, they wouldn't help me until I had a room reservation with concierge services added.
    -Osky

    Quote Originally Posted by sleepyjeff View Post
    Before we totally disregard extremism; lets remember the lesson of the 3 little pigs.

    The moderate pig lost his house to the wolf too
    .-- .. .-.. .-.. / .- -. -.-- --- -. . / -... --- - .... . .-. / - --- / - .-. .- -. ... .-.. .- - . / - .... .. ... ..--..

Similar Threads

  1. Name changes for Busch parks...
    By TDLFAN in forum SeaWorld
    Replies: 18
    Last Post: 06-06-2006, 10:08 AM
  2. New Changes For Snow White
    By DisneyFunGuy in forum Disneyland Resort
    Replies: 19
    Last Post: 03-30-2006, 11:17 PM
  3. Animation Building Changes for DCA
    By JiminyCricketFan in forum Disneyland Resort
    Replies: 31
    Last Post: 07-14-2005, 01:28 PM
  4. Club 33 - Down for Refurb?
    By tolowmoe in forum Disneyland Resort
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 02-01-2005, 06:05 PM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •