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    Re: Club 33 Membership Changes for 2012

    if one looked at how many tickets they could give away as a way to balance/justify the cost of the annual dues... I can see how they might be looking for a way to stem that.
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    Re: Club 33 Membership Changes for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by flynnibus View Post
    if one looked at how many tickets they could give away as a way to balance/justify the cost of the annual dues... I can see how they might be looking for a way to stem that.
    Club members don't just give away tickets. Every time a club member makes a reservation for a guest they take a risk. If they make a reservation for a party of 4, and those for collect their park hopper tickets, though don't eat at the club. The member is charged for it.

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    Re: Club 33 Membership Changes for 2012

    I guess I am not understanding this. If you are invited by a guest but already have an AP (or a ticket), this doesn't count towards their allotment of 50 passes? I was always under the assumption that if you already had a ticket you minimum bill would still be the price of a single day single park ticket. Is that still correct, or is it now just 50 guests, period?

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    Re: Club 33 Membership Changes for 2012

    Getting back to the original subject matter of this thread, it should be pointed out that once a member has gone through their allotted 50 passes per year for guests, that they will be able to purchase park tickets for additional guests at 20% off the ticket price. I would assume that this cost would be borne by the guest, but I'm not sure how that would work or whether that has been decided by WDP&R-US, Inc - the new owners of Club 33.

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    Re: Club 33 Membership Changes for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by m4travel View Post
    Getting back to the original subject matter of this thread, it should be pointed out that once a member has gone through their allotted 50 passes per year for guests, that they will be able to purchase park tickets for additional guests at 20% off the ticket price. I would assume that this cost would be borne by the guest, but I'm not sure how that would work or whether that has been decided by WDP&R-US, Inc - the new owners of Club 33.
    Wait, so Club 33 isn't owned by Disney? WDP&R-US..what is that?

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    Re: Club 33 Membership Changes for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by PinBrian View Post
    I guess I am not understanding this. If you are invited by a guest but already have an AP (or a ticket), this doesn't count towards their allotment of 50 passes? I was always under the assumption that if you already had a ticket you minimum bill would still be the price of a single day single park ticket. Is that still correct, or is it now just 50 guests, period?
    If you are invited as a guest, but already have an AP/ticket, there is no need for one of the comp passes - so it doesn't count against the member's allotment. The minimum cost of all meals (guest or member) does not change, as I understand it. While set at the cost of a single-park, single-day ticket, the comp passes are (or, at least have been) for single-day parkhoppers. Haven't heard what the limited-in-number comp passes will allow for admittance.

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    Re: Club 33 Membership Changes for 2012

    The changes to the membership are pretty drastic, and I know there are several members pretty upset. The sign in is one big hurdle. There have been signs corporate would be taking over the club for the last year. Now, the dinner for Candlelight was INCREDIBLE. It was very impressive. And the members there all commented it was the best event of the year. And they had hoped it was a new beginning. Little did they know.

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    Re: Club 33 Membership Changes for 2012

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    Re: Club 33 Membership Changes for 2012

    Simba, no need to apologize. I did not take any commentary personally. I understand you have an opinion and want to express how you feel. To get back on track, what I think is going on with Club 33 is going on in most of society. They are taking things we have grown accustomed to and now stripping it down to the bare bones and then charging double or triple the price for less. Look at the airlines...I believe that this will have negative consequences and there will be a mass exit of the membership. After installing a revolving door in place of the green one to accommodate all of the new members coming and then leaving after only a single year, they will have to correct these mistakes. It took them almost a decade to understand the flaws in California Adventure, I don't think this will be corrected anytime soon.
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    Re: Club 33 Membership Changes for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Disneynut View Post
    ...what I think is going on with Club 33 is going on in most of society. They are taking things we have grown accustomed to and now stripping it down to the bare bones and then charging double or triple the price for less. Look at the airlines...I believe that this will have negative consequences and there will be a mass exit of the membership. After a installing a revolving door in place of the green one to accommodate all of the new members coming and then leaving after only a single year, they will have to correct these mistakes. It took them almost a decade to understand the flaws in California Adventure, I don't think this will be corrected anytime soon.
    Bingo. For a corporation with such strong earnings growth, putting the squeeze on a tradition like Club 33 is typical of Disney's short-sighted management.

    The additional cash flow it creates won't make a mouse dropping's worth of difference in the next profit statement.

    The bad publicity it generates will be priceless.
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    Re: Club 33 Membership Changes for 2012

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    Wait, so Club 33 isn't owned by Disney? WDP&R-US..what is that?
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    Re: Club 33 Membership Changes for 2012

    My understanding of the changes is that is no longer under the control of the Foods Department at Disneyland and is now managed by the much larger Parks and Resorts Division.

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    Re: Club 33 Membership Changes for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Disneynut View Post
    My understanding of the changes is that is no longer under the control of the Foods Department at Disneyland and is now managed by the much larger Parks and Resorts Division.
    Yes, it isn't so much who owns it that is bothering members, but who will be managing it.
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    Re: Club 33 Membership Changes for 2012

    I think it is a sad day when the benefits of a D23 membership clearly outweigh membership in Club 33.

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    Re: Club 33 Membership Changes for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by MagicKingdomBoy View Post
    There are additional as-yet undisclosed here significant perks associated with a Platinum membership that absolutely will make it very palatable to many members. Let's not get on the hate wagon and ridicule people for accepting a product offered by Disneyland at a certain price.
    That's my understanding as well. I'm told second hand that there are some significant perks being added to the Platinum membership which have not yet been disclosed. I'm dying to find that information out. Despite the fact that I'm a CM, Club 33 info is not openly distributed. In fact, access to C33 info is so exclusive, the contact number to Club 33 isn't even in our cast member reference guides (all the other resort phone numbers are listed).
    Quote Originally Posted by Disneynut View Post
    My understanding of the changes is that is no longer under the control of the Foods Department at Disneyland and is now managed by the much larger Parks and Resorts Division.
    Yes. It's simply an operational change on the inside. To C33 guests and CM's who work at C33, it doesn't make any difference. They biggest issue is to whom the liquor license is issued. It's no longer issued to DL Food & Beverage, but is issued to WDPR.
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