Thanks for understanding:)
Gosh, I honestly don't know what's next with the park, my guess is pay toilets at Club 33. But you'll have to buy the tokens in the gift cabinet. Little coins with a '33' on one side and Mickey making a squinty face on the other!
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The problem with only opening up the membership every few years is that people's fortunes and attitudes change. Some on the list are not in a position to become members when the offer is made. Others are no longer interested, or may have forgotten they were even on the list. I suspect Disney is "burning through" the list and therefore looking to rebuild it via advertising. As flynn pointed out the expendability threat only works if people are waiting in the wings to become members at a higher price.
Overall it will be interesting to see how things move forward.
This first wave of Platinum memberships will be processed on June 1, with a start date of June 15.
That's where it all doesn't add up. If it was a pure money grab, and no contention for space - there is no need to limit comps - just simply sell more memberships. Why kill your golden goose of free money from comp'd guests you claim is so valuable to them?
That's why your story doesn't add up.. and why it can't be purely a money grab. Because if it were, they did a horrible job at it and left big money on the table. That's why your logic doesn't hold up.
At least one of those assertions must be false.. either the space contention or pure money grab. The answer is more complex to justify the changes they made.
A simple solution if they were only in a pure money grab would have been to alter how unescorted reservations were handled vs member hosted meals. Example: Let member hosted meals make reservations up to 90 days out, but only allow unescorted dining reservations say, 14 days out. This would have allowed them more space for members at whatever price they wanted and still get that free money from guests to fill in the holes. This would again, would have been a 'win-win' in terms of maximizing dollars.
But again.. they chose no such path.. in fact they chose a path that cut off a stream of free money. So there is more to it than simply maximizing the dollars.
IMO - the real answer is more complex than a simple 'money grab'. It's a shift in how the club will be positioned, marketed, and utilized. The change in rules and costs are part of that bigger image set by new management. Will it mean more money? I would assume so given the new dollar amounts involved.. but the motivation can't solely be revenue given the path they have taken. It's a more complex path that will included increased revenue.
flynn if the end goal is dramatically increased profits then how can the path getting there not be seen as a money grab?
Yes there is "free money" on the table, but said money pales in comparison to the patrons waiting at the door ready to walk in. Disney doesn't seem to care about the loyal Silver or Gold member who has been with them for decades. They don't care if said member can't bring in more then 50 people. Why? Because if Disney gets 2 new platinum members then they covered the "loss" of the Gold member's party based on initiation fees and dues alone. In fact they make more because now they have 2 new members who can also bring up to 50 people each. Do the math flynn... it's a pretty straight forward money grab.
This also explains why they're in a rush to beef up the waiting list. They're expecting to burn through it and want to make sure they have the new members to cover the turnover. It's literally playing out as we speak.
I just can't believe these sales stunts are happening.
All of this proves one thing and one thing only.
This entire scheme of Disney's is proving to be a massive failure!
It also clearly reinforces exactly what I had stated earlier: If this was a good deal and something worth while, current members would have upgraded immediately.
God forbid most of us have the intelligence to realize just what a complete scam this is.
You can build a pyramid in Las Vegas but it will never compare the real pyramids in Giza!
Disney cuts our benefits and then honestly expects members to re-invest thousands more back into the park for less benefits than we had previously? Why would we do this when we had been paying less money for more benefits?
All of this just because someone in the hotdog building had the hair brained concept of a second club? Seriously?
You can call the 1901 Lounge anything you wish but it will never replace our original, authentic, and most loved Club 33!
After the Member has used all of their 50 comps, the Member can still make Club reservations for Guests, but the Member or the Guest must pay to get in the Park in order to get to the Club.
But no one (yet) is telling Silvers or Golds they have a limit on Club Guest Reservations
How my Member-friend is looking at it:
"I'm either 'hosting' or 'sponsoring' now. Depending on the individual situation for family, friends, and even some clients it's going to go like this:
If I'm hosting Guests, whether with or without me being there in person...they're getting in free and dining on me...like I've always done. If I've run out of comps...I'll just buy the Club's discounted tickets. Might cost me more if I exceed my 50, but so be it. At least I'm paying $3600 a year and not $10,000. I can live with that. Done.
If I'm just sponsoring a reservation request, I'll now just tell 'em I'm glad to get the reservation at the Club for 'em...but you're gonna have to buy tickets to Disneyland."
The latter is the catagory I fall into. :( ;) So once my supply of ancient comp passes runs out...I may be investing in a Annual Pass sometime in the future. But I'm still grateful for the hundreds of past entires to both Park and Club that I've enjoyed, and for the future Club reservations he's glad to make when I need 'em.
Also FYI...he uses the Club mostly to entertain business clients from all around the world when they come to California. He says the Club has been instrumental in securing and maintaining business relationships and the Club has helped him close many a deal over the decades. In this regards, he considers his membership as being extremly profitable. And to these mostly "outsiders" the Club still holds valuable cachet.
For years his biggest complaint has been the lack of reservation availablity at relativly short notice. He said for the first 20 years of his Membership, he could almost call the Club on the day-of-visit and get a table. But for the last 15 years or so...it had become almost an impossiblity. He often was a walk-up! He said for business clients, it's often hard to know who'll be around and when. He's hoping that perhaps he'll be able to go more often with guests now..."How'd you like to do lunch at the Club this Thursday"...kinda thing.
Anyway, that's what he hopes.
Out-of-town (or in-town) friends and relatives...we tend to plan farther in advance and we're not so much a problem to get reservations for. He said we tend to be more flexable on dates, too.
I've heard similar from other long-time Members.
Just another perspective. :)