Here you are making a personal supposition, not documenting a "claim lie". Does a cap on excessive nonmember access to C33 make possible some increase in dues-paying membership without overcrowding reservations? Again quite possibly and reasonably. There is no "lie" here either.They claimed changes were being made to benefit the membership when they were really designed to allow for additional memberships to be sold.
As noticed by myself and as I recall by some others here, since these changes went into effect it has become much easier to obtain C33 dining reservations at short notice, which is certainly beneficial in a membership dining club.
Then cite the specific question and the specific C33 "lie" given in response.I know of many members who asked specific questions (such as the addition of new memberships) and were lied to. I can't and won't continue to give them a pass on this.
Please cite the statement(s) concerning future plans and why you call these "dishonest".I don't think they are being honest with members about their plan for the future.
Again, please cite specific "dishonest" statements concerning the state of affairs within C33, whatever that is.I don't believe they are being honest with the new or potential members about the state of affairs within Club 33.
The C33 Rules brochure makes it explicitly clear that all benefits are subject to change at any time, at the Club's discretion.I don't think they are being honest in their marketing about how the benefits can change at any moment. They are clearly promoting one thing to justify the initiation fee with very little disclosure about how things can and will change.
I've read through the whole thread and don't recall anyone expressing "happy no matter what" sentiments. But if you are going to make repeated accusations about "lying" and "dishonesty", which are serious allegations, then I think you should either substantiate them or cease them.Again, we know that some here are happy no matter what. I won't get into a back and forth debate with these types, it serves no purpose.
Well, the whole point of a printed contract (in this case the C33 Rules pamphlet) is to spell everything out clearly and for the record so that there won't be misunderstanding. The same holds true for the FAQ letter that C33 sent out subsequent to the 2012 renewal notice.For everyone else, my version of honesty goes beyond the typed word in a contract. Omissions, half-truths, evasion and feigning ignorance are all part of the deception (lies) in my book.
In any major set of changes there are also going to be some grey areas that will need smoothing-out in practice. Because a C33 staffer answering the telephone might not have instant/perfect/complete answers to all such questions does not automatically translate into a conspiracy.