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    Carthay Circle Theater or Carthay Circle Theatre?

    What is the official spelling for the Carthay Circle Theater/Theatre?

    I thought there was a photo of the original premiere, but I can't seem to find it again. All I can find are photos saying "Carthay Circle" without the Theater part.

    I have found numerous articles from the time period (LA Times), architectural sites (Pacific Coast Architecture Database) as well as blogs (official Disney and others), some that use Theater, others that use Theatre and some that use BOTH in the course of one article.

    Meanwhile, there are grammar/spelling sites (Bloody Well Write Blog Archive Theatre vs. theater, Theater vs. Theatre: A Lesson in Grammar) that go into detail and define Theater and Theatre in this way:

    Theatre = anything related to a performance or study of an art form, which is not a structure (e.g., a degree, a company, a troupe).

    Theater = a structure that houses a dramatic production (e.g., movie, play, musical, opera, ballet, dance).
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    The word theater can refer to a theater building, the art of theater, or even a home theater system.

    The word theatre should always refer to the art form and only the art form.
    This is what I have always used and both of my parents with in the business. But I think Disney is using Theatre to refer to the actual structure.

    On top of that, there is the British spelling (re) and the American spelling (er).

    So, which is it?

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    Re: Carthay Circle Theater or Carthay Circle Theatre?

    Disney is horribly inconsistent with this and the spelling is purely traditional, although I hold the difference between the two in fairly high regard. I believe in Fantasyland they spelling is RE, and in DCA the Hyperion is ER. :/

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    Re: Carthay Circle Theater or Carthay Circle Theatre?

    Interesting question. I read this great article today and posted a thread on it and even it uses conflicting spelling. The article uses "theater" and the vintage postcard says "theatre". How Disney Imagineers Recreated '20s and '30s L.A. in 21st-Century Anaheim | LA as Subject | SoCal Focus | KCET. I think Disney will use "theater" as they should based on the denotation of the word.

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    Re: Carthay Circle Theater or Carthay Circle Theatre?

    Quote Originally Posted by DARTH MAUL View Post
    Disney is horribly inconsistent with this and the spelling is purely traditional, although I hold the difference between the two in fairly high regard. I believe in Fantasyland they spelling is RE, and in DCA the Hyperion is ER. :/
    I can understand the use of RE in Fantasyland as we have the whole village faire thing going on.

    Quote Originally Posted by SoCalFan View Post
    Interesting question. I read this great article today and posted a thread on it and even it uses conflicting spelling. The article uses "theater" and the vintage postcard says "theatre". How Disney Imagineers Recreated '20s and '30s L.A. in 21st-Century Anaheim | LA as Subject | SoCal Focus | KCET. I think Disney will use "theater" as they should based on the denotation of the word.
    The idea for my question came from that article. Use of Theater and Theatre seems to have been subjective at the time. LA Times using Theater, that postcard using Theatre. Nobody knew then, nobody knows now.

    Although, a vintage photograph should answer it once and for all.

    I prefer Theater.

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    Re: Carthay Circle Theater or Carthay Circle Theatre?

    It's theatre at DCA just like the buildings it was modeled after.

    Carthay Circle Theatre Cupola Installed at Disney California Adventure Park Disney Parks Blog

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    Re: Carthay Circle Theater or Carthay Circle Theatre?

    Quote Originally Posted by swampymarsh View Post
    It's theatre at DCA just like the buildings it was modeled after.

    Carthay Circle Theatre Cupola Installed at Disney California Adventure Park Disney Parks Blog
    This is the crux of the question. Which spelling did the original building use? Vintage postcards and newspaper articles use different spellings. Architectural sites, blogs, photo sites, wikipedia use different spellings.

    If you could produce a photo of the original building with the correct spelling, that would answer my question.

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    Re: Carthay Circle Theater or Carthay Circle Theatre?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojave View Post
    This is the crux of the question. Which spelling did the original building use? Vintage postcards and newspaper articles use different spellings. Architectural sites, blogs, photo sites, wikipedia use different spellings.

    If you could produce a photo of the original building with the correct spelling, that would answer my question.
    You mean like this one?

    Carthay Circle Theatre ca. 1930, 6316 San Vicente Blvd. | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

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    Re: Carthay Circle Theater or Carthay Circle Theatre?

    Yep, exactly! I knew I'd see one but couldn't find it. Thanks.

    Still don't approve of Theatre over Theater but I guess it will be historically accurate.

    I love that photo as well since it shows the "bumpiness" of the external walls, exactly as they are building it.

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    Re: Carthay Circle Theater or Carthay Circle Theatre?

    Well.. Theatre is the proper way to spell it.. in Canada at least. I hate when people spell it, Theater.






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    Re: Carthay Circle Theater or Carthay Circle Theatre?

    I thought TheatRE is British English, while TheatER is American English.

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    Re: Carthay Circle Theater or Carthay Circle Theatre?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dagobert View Post
    I thought TheatRE is British English, while TheatER is American English.
    The former is used is used in most of the world. The latter is used primarily in the U.S.

    Back in the 1900's the former was used in the U.S. as it was more "proper".

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    Re: Carthay Circle Theater or Carthay Circle Theatre?

    Quote Originally Posted by isny View Post
    The former is used is used in most of the world. The latter is used primarily in the U.S.

    Back in the 1900's the former was used in the U.S. as it was more "proper".
    I guess it's the same with MetRE and MetER or CentRE and CentER.

    I was always funny when my teacher corrected my words while studying in the US until I told her that in Europe we have to learn British English in school.

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    Re: Carthay Circle Theater or Carthay Circle Theatre?

    I personally find British spellings of words to be much nicer looking. I've actually started spelling things the British way, despite having never been to Europe.

    Regardless, knowing Disney, we'll probably end up seeing both used at different times.
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    Re: Carthay Circle Theater or Carthay Circle Theatre?

    The construction documents and all permits all have it spelled "Theatre"

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