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    Re: Why doesn't Luigi's FT seem to work like the Lasseter video?

    Luigi's Flying Tires is not the old flying saucer ride, and was built to accomodate more than one passenger, as well as adding bars for safer loading and unloading. It allows parents to ride with small children who couldn't have experienced the flying saucers. I think its a good attraction for Carsland, to make sure that there are rides that little kids can go on and which aren't too fast. Little kids will love this ride as much as Dumbo.

    I think teens and adults will like this ride as well as it is hands-on like Autopia, and it will interest guests who want to ride it again to perfect their tire riding ability. For the guests who want to sit back and let the computer do the driving, like in RSS, then this ride might seem like too much work.

    That being said, there is a plan B, if the tires just prove to be too unpopular by having too long lines, as there is plenty of space behind this attraction to improve the ride by making major changes to it. I don't see this happening for a while as everybody will want to experience it at least once.

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    Re: Why doesn't Luigi's FT seem to work like the Lasseter video?

    Probably because they manipulated the video of it!

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    Re: Why doesn't Luigi's FT seem to work like the Lasseter video?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krack View Post
    Exactly. It didn't work 50+ years ago, and it still doesn't work. The concept is flawed.
    The concept is not flawed, the execution is. With some tweaks I truly feel this could be very fun. Converting the attraction into a giant pinball machine would help get cars moving if they were lighter.

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    Re: Why doesn't Luigi's FT seem to work like the Lasseter video?

    This ride is an embarrassment (or as the kids say today "epic fail") and I am honestly stunned by the rationalization on this board. If this was made under previous regimes, there would be people storming the castle with torches and pitchforks. Even more appropriate this is located so close to WDI's infamous "bumper cars that don't bump" next door in Bug's Land.

    After now being on all the new attractions, here's my two cents:

    RSR - "A" Well done and appropriate scope for an E ticket
    Tow Mater's "C". It is what it is. A dressed up carny ride, but fun if 10 minute or less line
    Luigis "F" - Embarrassing
    TLM "D" - A completely wasted opportunity - I neither feel like I'm underwarter nor ever immersed in the story and the ending is a legendary WDI disaster

    Sad to think what "could have been" if you took all the money for TLM, Luigi's, and Mater's and actually built another E ticket - could have had a "Pirates and Mansion" level of long-term impact (assuming WDI didn't waste the money)

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    Re: Why doesn't Luigi's FT seem to work like the Lasseter video?

    I was looking forward to riding this ride. The outside of the attraction is cute, cute cute, and looks just like the movie!

    The inside of the cue is really well done for such a simple ride. Vintage Ferrari posters in Pixar style, signed memorabilia from Lightning McQueen, lots to see here.

    From the outside, you can watch people ride this, and everyone is given a giant beach ball in the colors of the Italian flag. I thought this was genius!

    But when getting ready to ride, I saw that riders after riders would try to move and couldn't really move much. Even worse, the beach balls quickly fall and then act like they get stuck to the floor. If there are air jets pushing up, wouldn't the beach balls go up?

    People would stretch and stretch, almost looking like they were going to need chiropractic treatment, to get a beach ball back, or pick up one, but that seems almost impossible. People seemed frustrated and really really trying to get their car to move, but it didn't work.

    So I walked out and left. Didn't seem worth the long wait.

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    Re: Why doesn't Luigi's FT seem to work like the Lasseter video?

    The video is was manipulated.
    I was at a CM preview on Wednesday and those tires do not fly around that fast. They don't even really move if you don't operate them as the instructions explain.
    An epic fail? Perhaps. It depends on how you look at it. The smiling faces and laughter I heard from rider after rider sounded like they enjoyed it. As for myself, it didn't appeal to me so I didn't wait in the long line to ride. I'm not a huge fan of Dumbo or the Tea Cups either (just sayin').
    Soooo...one will have to gauge for themselves whether or not it's ride worthy. And only time will tell if Luigi's Flying Tires stays.



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    Re: Why doesn't Luigi's FT seem to work like the Lasseter video?

    Quote Originally Posted by DizneyFan View Post
    The video is was manipulated.
    I was at a CM preview on Wednesday and those tires do not fly around that fast. They don't even really move if you don't operate them as the instructions explain.
    An epic fail? Perhaps. It depends on how you look at it. The smiling faces and laughter I heard from rider after rider sounded like they enjoyed it. As for myself, it didn't appeal to me so I didn't wait in the long line to ride. I'm not a huge fan of Dumbo or the Tea Cups either (just sayin').
    Soooo...one will have to gauge for themselves whether or not it's ride worthy. And only time will tell if Luigi's Flying Tires stays.

    All sorts of promotional videos purposely, and obviously, speed things up to make it look like guests are having a good fast paced time, but also to compress the videos message in a short amount of time as entertainment wise it is boring to watch a tire glide slowly across the floor, or a person walk slowly around Disneyland. I have seen other videos do this when "guests" are running around in super-time, having a good time. I don't think it was intentional in terms of misleading people about the ride, but was done for the theatrical appeal of the short video, if that makes sense. Obviously, what matters is the thousands of guests that will ride the ride this summer.

    I actually love the teacups, because its not just the ride mechanism, but the Alice in Wonderland theming, the oversized teacups, the music . . . I really loved the first Cars movie, despite having reservations about the whole Cars premise. JL and crew really created a special place when they designed Radiator Springs. To be at Luigi's riding a floating tire ride, in the middle of Radiator Springs, after eating a chili con cone-thingy, sounds like theme park nirvana to me. This ride alone beats everything else in DCA for me as I really have a sentimental feeling for Radiator Springs and just walking around Carsland is more of a ride than the ferris wheel. I personally will love the tires as I never got a chance to ride the saucers, and its something new. Will I ride it again? Certainly, as I can see myself enjoying the queue several times over, and the excitement/fun of the whole area. Though RSS will be awesome, I think my favorite pastime in Carsland will be riding Mater's and Luigi's, and eating at Flo's. I've driven around a lot of the Route 66 that is depicted in Carsland, and I can't believe how authentic the imagineers got the place to feel, really. I remember decades ago visiting Route 66 type attractions in Northern Arizona, and really loving it, despite these tourist traps not having Disney level rides, now we get the ambiance of Route 66 and cool rides.

    There's just something really special about Carsland that resonates with me, and I think a lot of guests will feel the same way.

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    Re: Why doesn't Luigi's FT seem to work like the Lasseter video?

    Quote Originally Posted by chesirecat View Post
    Luigi's Flying Tires is not the old flying saucer ride, and was built to accomodate more than one passenger, as well as adding bars for safer loading and unloading. It allows parents to ride with small children who couldn't have experienced the flying saucers. I think its a good attraction for Carsland, to make sure that there are rides that little kids can go on and which aren't too fast. Little kids will love this ride as much as Dumbo.

    I think teens and adults will like this ride as well as it is hands-on like Autopia, and it will interest guests who want to ride it again to perfect their tire riding ability. For the guests who want to sit back and let the computer do the driving, like in RSS, then this ride might seem like too much work.

    That being said, there is a plan B, if the tires just prove to be too unpopular by having too long lines, as there is plenty of space behind this attraction to improve the ride by making major changes to it. I don't see this happening for a while as everybody will want to experience it at least once.
    RSR will probably still have longer wait times, because of the enormous popularity of a new and anticipated E Ticket.

    Will all the CL rides have Fast Pass?

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    Re: Why doesn't Luigi's FT seem to work like the Lasseter video?

    Seems like they just need to juice up the vehicles and extend the size of the rude

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    Re: Why doesn't Luigi's FT seem to work like the Lasseter video?

    This: "how did wdi evenlet this past the drawing board when they did their initial calculations?" is a very good question.

    Just like, how did WDI get away with telling management and everyone else that the Paradise Pier Park, the viewing area for World of Color, would fit thousands more people than actually fit? It wasn't until they starting shoving cast members in there after hours that everyone (except the sneaky guys who designed it) realized it held less than half of the expected capacity.

    WDI is a snake pit and always has been. Walt pitted people against one another and while that sometimes ended up in great creations, it also generated a poisonous atmosphere that no history of WDI or the biographies of any of the Imagineers have ever delved into because they're afraid of getting the crap sued out of them by Disney. I'm sure they've all signed NDA (Non-Disclosure-Agreements) anyway.

    I've already written this several times, but it bears repeating: everyone at WDI and in upper management knows that Luigi's in its current form is a fiasco. The heavy vehicles holding two people, and probably a lot of stupid rules from DOSH, are the problems. Also, the loading should be like Peter Pan, Haunted Mansion, or Aquatopia, where the vehicles never stop moving when you enter and exit.

    Rather than tear the ride out in a few years, Lasseter will force them to find the money to build new build new ride vehicles and expand the platform. They'll claim that the ride is so popular that they have to double its size, and it's under that guise that they will also introduce new lighter ride vehicles of some sort.
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    Re: Why doesn't Luigi's FT seem to work like the Lasseter video?

    You can see the original prototype tires for LFT at the :28 mark in this video:
    Preview of Luigi's Flying Tires in Cars Land at Disney's California Adventure - YouTube

    You can see how high above the ground the tires flew, how fast they went and how quickly they spun. Obviously the design of the tires changed from prototype to finished product.

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    Re: Why doesn't Luigi's FT seem to work like the Lasseter video?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fukai View Post
    WDI is a snake pit and always has been. Walt pitted people against one another and while that sometimes ended up in great creations, it also generated a poisonous atmosphere that no history of WDI or the biographies of any of the Imagineers have ever delved into because they're afraid of getting the crap sued out of them by Disney. I'm sure they've all signed NDA (Non-Disclosure-Agreements) anyway.
    I think you're confusing Walt-era WED with Eisger-era WDI. Walt was often an SOB to work for (even those who admired him the most said so), but in that regard he was a rustic. He didn't play political mind games like Michael, whose instinct for setting people against people and departments against departments approached the level of a highly developed art form.

    Too, any conceivable NDA that the Gen1 WED Imagineers would have signed (which they didn't; the key guys had been with Walt since the Snow White days) hardly would be in effect a half century later.

    Bottom line, WED's dirty laundry all has been aired long before now. WDI, however, has many baskets of reeky linen to go. As a snake pit, it's a herpetologist's dream.
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    Re: Why doesn't Luigi's FT seem to work like the Lasseter video?

    WED's dirty laundry has NEVER been publicly aired in any detail and depth.
    Ditto for WDI, except that everybody knows one thing: they're going to get fired at some point.
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    Re: Why doesn't Luigi's FT seem to work like the Lasseter video?

    Guy, the ride works. It just takes a bit of getting used to. The key is to find your EXACT center of balance and you will fly across the platform. It's easy.


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    Re: Why doesn't Luigi's FT seem to work like the Lasseter video?

    Quote Originally Posted by k_peek_2000 View Post
    Guy, the ride works. It just takes a bit of getting used to. The key is to find your EXACT center of balance and you will fly across the platform. It's easy.
    Yup, a little leaning goes a long way. The worst thing you can do is lean too far - that stops you from moving. If you can get the thing balanced, which is easy if you are alone, then a little lean can get you going pretty fast. If you have two or three people you may have trouble getting balanced to begin with and never get going.

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