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    Cool Re: DCA Improvements - Sunshine Plaza

    Regarding the entrance to "Walt Disney Studios" park in Paris, DLP's "DCA":

    Pussnboots writes:

    "Through an ornate set of gates, you enter a nice plaza that's slightly Spanish Colonial Revival and very yellow. There's an animate fountain, palm trees and the sight of the Earfel (is there an appropriate spelling?) Tower. As a warped version of Walt Disney's "weenie", here we find Studio 1, a colossal yellow soundstage right ahead of us. Inside is a glitzy cliche Hollywood street built up of more cliches and very obvious sets attached to robust hardware. A few shops and facilities are on either side, a faux starry sky is above us, vistas of an endless Hollywood street bathed in the light of a sunset and searchlights are above the entrances.

    Now here's the thing. At this point, a certain amount of expectation builds up. You've seen the trailer and it looked very nice, so surely the actual film will be great?
    Then you step outside Studio 1 and find yourself staring at absolutely nothing. Like with every single Jim Carrey film, all the good jokes were in the trailer.

    So does it work? With a nice park attached to it, surely. I imagine."
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    Do you suppose something like Studio 1 is planned to replace Sunshine Plaza? (At DCA the monorail might cut right through the building, perhaps giving visitors a glimpse of it? Through a glass window, like the Disneyland Railroad does through Splash Mountain?)

    That might be cool.

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    Re: DCA Improvements - Sunshine Plaza

    Quote Originally Posted by PragmaticIdealist
    Studios, and especially their backlots, generally do not have guide signs like those used in the revised H.P.B. So, now, we have something that does not look like an actual studio but looks, instead, like a theme park.

    It's a theme park that is trying to look like a theme park.

    I want a studio backlot. There is something magical about the process of making movies and seeing the variety of costumes, sets, and props that go into film production.

    I think the Hollywood area of D.C.A. is at its strongest when it is showing an assortment of telephone booths from different times and places or a variety of park benches. Those juxtapositions are whimsical, and H.P.B. needs more of such things, not less.
    I think it's fine that HPB looks like a themepark, it is one afterall. In So Cal we have Universal Studios with a real working backlot experience, duplicating that experience 50 miles south seems kind of pointless to me. It is meant to be representative of a backlot, not a backlot itself.

    I also would like to see the entry to DCA made into more of a Mission style vision. It's a very California style and adds to an older feel, sort of like how Main Street is how old small towns used to be like, it can be like how a small California town used to be.

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    Re: DCA Improvements - Sunshine Plaza

    Hey guys, sorry I have been away for a few days.

    Some more details:

    Construction is to begin in February. no exact dates though. I'd bet mid-February.

    As far as I have heard the sun will be scrapped as will the golden gate bridge. I haven't heard anything about the train though.

    There is some proof of the to-come construction. This stake is just above the fountain. In case you aren't stake color savvy (hehe), that means work to be done here.

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    Re: DCA Improvements - Sunshine Plaza

    Quote Originally Posted by dchun2007
    I've never really liked DCA's "hub". When you walk into that center area with the sun, it's not really inviting and warm and spacious as Disney's. One of the problems is the plant wall behind the sun. I wish they'd open it up more and put a much warmer scene. One of the great things about Disneyland is that open Main Street warm scene. But then again, one of the things about Disneyland's hub and opening area is that it gained rich history and warmth over the years. It has a very sentimental value to it because of its age. Anyways...I'm very glad that DCA is being improved! =D The park has a lot of potential.
    Do you know why its warmer? Little known fact, that giant sun is surrounded by half a dozen reflecting dishes, programmed to find the sun's light and bounce it off the sun in such a pattern as to fill the area with light, thus the area becomes a few degrees warmer than any other area of the park. I wished they would explain this because its awfully damn cool and often overlooked. Hope they don't remove that effect.







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    Re: DCA Improvements - Sunshine Plaza

    if the hub was to become a train station like place, what would the station house? there is no railroad in DCA and it 'd be horrible to have just a store. I also thinking moving golden dreams to the entrance would not be wise. No offense, but the movie just isn't very popular. But a train station would work nicely...especially if there was a train. haha
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    Re: DCA Improvements - Sunshine Plaza

    I personally like the bridge, it's so cool!






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    Re: DCA Improvements - Sunshine Plaza

    Okay:

    -I like the Golden Hubcap fountain...keep it in some form please
    -I like the letters...sue me
    -I like the Golden Gate Bridge as it relates to the theme of the entrance

    Sure, there could be better ideas for the entrance plaza of the park, however, I don't think they could be implemented without MASSIVELY redoing that section. If they did something drastic enough like completely redo the plaza, it would make what they did at HPB look like an overnight paintjob redo.

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    Re: DCA Improvements - Sunshine Plaza

    This area already has a Mission Revival train station.

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    Re: DCA Improvements - Sunshine Plaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Twist_of_Fate
    Sure, there could be better ideas for the entrance plaza of the park, however, I don't think they could be implemented without MASSIVELY redoing that section. If they did something drastic enough like completely redo the plaza, it would make what they did at HPB look like an overnight paintjob redo.
    I think that this is exactly what they are going to do. a source said that this project will be much larger than what they did to HPB.

    Here is some more info thanks to "dlfreak"
    Quote Originally Posted by dlfreak
    As the rumors seem to go....

    The CALIFORNIA letters are staying outside the Main Entrance.

    The area between the entrance gates and the Golden gate bridge will be changed in style. The style is rumored to be a woodsey/craftsman style similar to the GCH.

    California Redwoods are rumored to be planted in front of the existing tile mosaic murals.

    The Golden Gate Bridge theming will be completely removed from the monorail track. Nothing has been specifically said but rumors swirl that it will be a wooden/craftsman style type bridge.

    The further demolishing of the "Postcard entrance" extends beyond the Monorail track into Sunshine Plaza which will likely be renamed after it will supposedly go under re-modeling too...

    The giant Sun icon will be removed. The area is rumored to also be transformed into the Crafstman style too with the removal of the "freeform planters."

    The facades to the existing shops in Sunshine Plaza will likely also be rethemed.

    The seeming most fluid change in terms of approval involves shifting the Sunshine Plaza "offcenter" a bit to include a smaller theatre to accomodate the Golden Dreams film. Other rumored incarnations included a City Hall type buliding.

    The new major icon for the area has also not been announced but several rumors have been thrown around.

    ...That's what I've gathered.
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    Re: DCA Improvements - Sunshine Plaza

    Quote Originally Posted by ah schucks
    Do you know why its warmer? Little known fact, that giant sun is surrounded by half a dozen reflecting dishes, programmed to find the sun's light and bounce it off the sun in such a pattern as to fill the area with light, thus the area becomes a few degrees warmer than any other area of the park. I wished they would explain this because its awfully damn cool and often overlooked. Hope they don't remove that effect.
    Actually that affect hasn't been working forever so it doesn't matter if they take it out.

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    Re: DCA Improvements - Sunshine Plaza

    I like the sun and the water fountain






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    Re: DCA Improvements - Sunshine Plaza

    They do need to reduce the venice beach boy feel that's everywhere in the park and add in some more history and class. Nothing like starting at the entrance!

    One thing they could do after they remove the sun would be to have mics that would pick up any complaints and then aim those solar mirrors at the offending guest. After a few nay sayers burst into flames, people might start treating DCA with respect. That, or they could just add a few killer E-Tickets and work on sight lines.

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    Re: DCA Improvements - Sunshine Plaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Twist_of_Fate
    Okay:

    -I like the Golden Hubcap fountain...keep it in some form please
    -I like the letters...sue me
    -I like the Golden Gate Bridge as it relates to the theme of the entrance

    Sure, there could be better ideas for the entrance plaza of the park, however, I don't think they could be implemented without MASSIVELY redoing that section. If they did something drastic enough like completely redo the plaza, it would make what they did at HPB look like an overnight paintjob redo.
    As a San Franciscian, I would be a VERY upset girl if they removed the Golden Gate Bridge Section of the Monorail Track at the entrance to DCA.

    I mean, San Francisco is the number one (or two depending on who you read) US Vacation destination both in the US and the world.... Tell me a SoCal landmark thats as reckognisable worldwide as the GGB?

    Losing the "post card building" wouldn't be bad, except they have some really fun merch...
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    Re: DCA Improvements - Sunshine Plaza

    FYI, I'm taking everything from Mouseguide with a MASSIVE grain of salt. Do you see Al talking about this? or even Jim Hill?

    Not hatin' - just sayin'...
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    Re: DCA Improvements - Sunshine Plaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Princess Picard
    FYI, I'm taking everything from Mouseguide with a MASSIVE grain of salt. Do you see Al talking about this? or even Jim Hill?

    Not hatin' - just sayin'...
    You can trust Mouse Guide.. we don't lie. lol. no hard feelings.

    FYI Al talked about it long ago. http://www.miceage.com/allutz/al110805b.htm
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