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    Radiator Springs Story Error, Stanley dosen't have a Radiator.....

    Stanley Steamer would have needed water to cross Ornament Valley.
    Stanley Steamer could have found and named "Radiator Springs".
    Stanley Steamer doesn't have a radiator.
    Stanley Steamer has a boiler and consumes water just like the Disneyland Trains.


    The sign on the water tower in RSR is wrong..... It reads:
    "Stanley, sxploring out west, overheated as his radiator water boiled away."

    Steam Cars and Steam Engines need water to operate.
    Steam powered vehicles use water by boiling water and using the steam to move the vehicle.
    Stanley could of found Radiator Spring, but he did not need water for "his radiator".
    Stanley needed water for his BOILER.


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    Re: Radiator Springs Story Error, Stanley dosen't have a Radiator.....

    interesting point. you wanna be the one who tells Lasseter this?


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    Re: Radiator Springs Story Error, Stanley dosen't have a Radiator.....

    I don't know what model Stanley from the movie is. But the idea that all steam cars don't have radiators is false. Here is a link to how a Stanley steam engine works.

    Stanley Steam Car - Stanley Motor Carriage Company - How The Stanley Steamer Works

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    Re: Radiator Springs Story Error, Stanley dosen't have a Radiator.....

    Quote Originally Posted by DownwiththeTide View Post
    I don't know what model Stanley from the movie is. But the idea that all steam cars don't have radiators is false. Here is a link to how a Stanley steam engine works.

    Stanley Steam Car - Stanley Motor Carriage Company - How The Stanley Steamer Works
    That 1918 Stanley Model 735 Stanley in your example is a later model and used a Radiator.
    In the 60's Chrysler made turbine powered cars.
    In the future we may drive nuclear powered "Stanley Land Speeders on Hoth".

    The Sign and the Stanley Steamer the character is based on is set in 1909.
    The time frame for founding of Radiator Springs is 1909. (Please read sign.)

    The Stanley Steamer the character in the movie is based on, did not have a radiator.



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    Re: Radiator Springs Story Error, Stanley dosen't have a Radiator.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MrsMonroe View Post
    interesting point. you wanna be the one who tells Lasseter this?
    Oh that made me laugh! Almost spit out my coffee!

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    Re: Radiator Springs Story Error, Stanley dosen't have a Radiator.....

    Well thank goodness actual cars talk. At least they got that right...

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    Re: Radiator Springs Story Error, Stanley dosen't have a Radiator.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Disneyland 1951 View Post
    The Sign and the Stanley Steamer the character is based on is set in 1909.
    The time frame for founding of Radiator Springs is 1909. (Please read sign.)

    The Stanley Steamer the character in the movie is based on, did not have a radiator.


    The character Stanley in Cars most certainly has a radiator.

    Take a look at Stanley from Cars, He definitely isn't a Stanley steamer boiler car that you are thinking of. There were many other steam powered cars in that time period. And Stanley is just a representation of them with a name linking him to a popular manufacturer of the time.

    It's a land based on a cartoon....Not a living history museum.

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    Re: Radiator Springs Story Error, Stanley dosen't have a Radiator.....

    Much of this is explained in the new Mater's Tall Tales short - Time Travel Mater.

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    Re: Radiator Springs Story Error, Stanley dosen't have a Radiator.....

    Quote Originally Posted by DownwiththeTide View Post
    The character Stanley in Cars most certainly has a radiator.

    Take a look at Stanley from Cars, He definitely isn't a Stanley steamer boiler car that you are thinking of. There were many other steam powered cars in that time period. And Stanley is just a representation of them with a name linking him to a popular manufacturer of the time.

    It's a land based on a cartoon....Not a living history museum.
    You may be correct..... I may be overthinking this.

    Just because the front end and overall looks like an early Stanley Steamer car, and he happens to be named Stanley, doesnt mean he is a Stanley Steamer.


    Sarge looks just like an early Army Jeep, but that dosen't mean he is a Jeep.
    Sally looks like a Porsche, but that dosen't mean she is one.
    Doc Hudson looks just like a Hudson.

    And... It is just a cartoon.

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    You need to go to Wikipedia and correct them and let them know it is "definitly not" a Steamer. They list that Stanley is probably a Stanley Steamer. I may not be the only one fooled, many others like myself have been wrong and need to be corrected
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    Re: Radiator Springs Story Error, Stanley dosen't have a Radiator.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Disneyland 1951 View Post
    You may be correct..... I may be overthinking this.

    Just because the front end and overall looks like an early Stanley Steamer car, and he happens to be named Stanley, doesnt mean he is a Stanley Steamer.

    Sarg looks just like an early Army Jeep, but that dosen't mean he is a Jeep.
    Sally looks like a Porsche, but that dosen't mean she is one.
    Doc Hudson looks just like a Hudson.

    And... It is just a cartoon.

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    You need to go to Wikipedia and correct them and let them know it is "definitly not" a Steamer. They list that Stanley is probably a Stanley Steamer. I may not be the only one fooled, many others like myself have been wrong and need to be corrected
    The character Stanley in Cars has the front end of a steamer with a radiator cap added, the body of a ford, and the bed and rear end of an international.

    1909 Stanley steamer boiler cars didn't have radiators...Stanley does, that tells me he isn't one. Probably based on one, yes.

    In a make believe world where cars have eyes and mouths, who knew that a Stanley boiler car with a radiator would be the deal breaker...

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    Re: Radiator Springs Story Error, Stanley dosen't have a Radiator.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Disneyland 1951 View Post
    You may be correct..... I may be overthinking this.

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    Re: Radiator Springs Story Error, Stanley dosen't have a Radiator.....

    Sally is definitely a Porsche Carrera. She has the Porsche badge on her bonnet.
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    Re: Radiator Springs Story Error, Stanley dosen't have a Radiator.....

    Maybe he is loosely based off of a Stanley Steamer, but isn't? He could be some sort of strange hybrid of vehicles from that era - name unrelated?

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    Re: Radiator Springs Story Error, Stanley dosen't have a Radiator.....

    If we can believe that cars talk and have human characteristics, we can certainly believe that a car named Stanley had a radiator in 1909.

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    Re: Radiator Springs Story Error, Stanley dosen't have a Radiator.....

    I'm going to throw more fuel on the fire. DWT's great attachment on the Stanley Steamer has a section in the pull down menu on the steam system. Under the the steam heading is the discussion below--in the later-model Steamers that even had a "radiator", it wasn't really a radiator, it was a condenser. "Condenser Springs"??

    Most people refer to a Stanley’s condenser as a "radiator" because it resembles the radiator found on internal combustion cars. In fact the design of the Stanley condenser is in reality a heavy-duty radiator as used for cooling large internal combustion engines. If one checks the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary they will discover the definitions of condenser and radiator as follows;
    con dens er; (kOn dEn ser); noun; 1686
    1: an electrical device characterized by its capacity to store an electric charge
    2: an apparatus that converts vapor into liquid
    3: a hollow coil that condenses by abstracting heat
    4: lens used to concentrate light on an object
    ra di a tor; (rA dE A tor); noun; 1836
    1: any object that radiates energy
    2: heater consisting of a series of pipes for circulating steam or hot water to heat rooms or buildings
    3: a mechanism consisting of a metal honeycomb through which hot fluids circulate; heat is transferred from the fluid through the honeycomb to the air stream that is created either by the motion of the vehicle or by a fan
    Since steam is being converted back to water the proper term to use is condenser. Initially Stanley used a V-shaped condenser on their cars but they found them prone to leak at the V-joint. Stanley then changed to the more common flat condenser similar to a radiators found on today’s cars.
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