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    Big Grizzly Moutain for DCA?

    What do you know about the rumor that Big Grizzly Mountain Runaway Mine Cars could be cloned for DCA? Well, it's known that HKDL has the exclusivity for Grizzly (And Mystic Manor) for 5 years, so I think that 5 years is enough time for think about a new e-ticket in DCA. If I can remember well, Disney & More blog said that was impossible to fit the ride in the Grizzly Peak, but there is a lot of room in the Redwook area.

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    Re: Big Grizzly Moutain for DCA?

    I like the idea! It would add to the area well! One concern... Would the removal of Redwood Creek Trail grant enough space for the attraction?
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    Re: Big Grizzly Moutain for DCA?

    DCA does not need to clone any more attractions. If DCA is to continue to form its own identity it needs unique original/movie based attractions. Some micechatters think that a mine train ride might be a perfect fit for the area, and I totally agree. Sure, they can definitely add elements from BGMR like AA bears but they should not copy the ride.

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    Re: Big Grizzly Moutain for DCA?

    I say yes, even if it's cloned it's going to be differenet. for example, the TSMM was meant for ONLY DCA but is very different at WDW and is now open at Tokyo, and the Mermaid ride is going for WDW as well and looks very different as well.

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    Re: Big Grizzly Moutain for DCA?

    I think it should stay original to Hong Kong
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    Was this not initially debated when creating DCA? I thought I had read it somewhere but the idea was scrapped because of space constraints. Maybe I'm just making things up

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    Re: Big Grizzly Moutain for DCA?

    i dont like the current GRR, but I do like the one at knotts better, idk why tho.

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    Re: Big Grizzly Moutain for DCA?

    How about an attractions that lets kids run off energy has little to no wait and can serve a huge number of guests per hour?

    You don't want to climb the rope bridges, that's fine but not a reason to replace it. There are plenty of people who enjoy Redwood Creek Challenge Trail that do.

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    Re: Big Grizzly Moutain for DCA?

    Quote Originally Posted by swampymarsh View Post
    How about an attractions that lets kids run off energy has little to no wait and can serve a huge number of guests per hour?

    You don't want to climb the rope bridges, that's fine but not a reason to replace it. There are plenty of people who enjoy Redwood Creek Challenge Trail that do.
    The thing to always keep in mind is, does this serve the most guests possible, is this area being used in the best way... Similar to when Disney announced the new Fantasy Faire, some people here were upset because they like what it was, but they weren't thinking about the fact that nobody goes there as it is. I've adopted the Micecast metric, are there butts in seats? If the answer is yes, how much of its capacity is it doing, does it get long lines? If the answer to butts in seats was no, then it needs to be replaced. the biggest examples of Disney doing the opposite... Country Bear Jamboree was getting butts in seats and got replaced by the pile of manure, while over in WDW, the Tiki Room: Under New Management wasn't getting butts in seats and didn't get fixed until there was a fire.
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    Re: Big Grizzly Moutain for DCA?

    Quote Originally Posted by swampymarsh View Post
    How about an attractions that lets kids run off energy has little to no wait and can serve a huge number of guests per hour?

    You don't want to climb the rope bridges, that's fine but not a reason to replace it. There are plenty of people who enjoy Redwood Creek Challenge Trail that do.
    I agree to an extent. I think part of the Challege trail should be sacrificed for a mine train ride. The area was the most detailed area DCA 1 had! GRR is the obvious place where the spirit of Grizzly Mountain should be added. Either go full out Marc Davis with funny bears and sets or go full on Grizzly with large grizzly bears and miners! GRR (the best themed ride the park had when it opened) still had budget cuts remove the animatronics. The lack of these animatronics made it just another raft ride.
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    Re: Big Grizzly Moutain for DCA?

    I would love to see an E ticket replace RCCT, but so close to a hotel that charges premium bucks? I mean, the noise generated by an attraction the size of Grizzy Gulch might be cause for concern.


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    Re: Big Grizzly Moutain for DCA?

    I don't see the coaster coming to DCA at all. If another coaster is built, it would be best to put behind Cars Land because they'd only have to theme two sides of the structure and wouldn't be too close to the hotel. It could possibly work in other places too, but I think that the GRR area is just too small for a big coaster like that. Maybe a small coaster, like a High Sierra themed version of the new Snow White coaster could work.

    But I do think more needs to be done with the Challenge Trail area, but I could see the trail coming back in a new form while making some space for a mine train ride. They could put an underground show building with mine scenes and then have the train go above ground and above parts of the new version of the CT on bridges. You could make the CT more interesting and replace most of the existing props once you've built the underground show building and make more space at the same time.

    Then the mine ride could make a loop near GRR into part of what's currently CF and then into the empty corner area near the hotel. There they could fit another small show building for a scene that the monorail could pass through out of view of riders on the train. Then it could pass the in front of the hotel and back to the station.
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    Re: Big Grizzly Moutain for DCA?

    I doubt very highly that it will be cloned, because it's more or less the kind of ride you'd get if you merged Big Thunder Mountain (which is across the way at Disneyland), Everest and DCA's own Grizzly River Run into one.
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    Re: Big Grizzly Moutain for DCA?

    Quote Originally Posted by DannyLand View Post
    the Mermaid ride is going for WDW as well and looks very different as well.
    Only on the outside. The inside it's supposed to be the same ride.

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    How about an attractions that lets kids run off energy has little to no wait and can serve a huge number of guests per hour?

    You don't want to climb the rope bridges, that's fine but not a reason to replace it. There are plenty of people who enjoy Redwood Creek Challenge Trail that do.
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    The thing to always keep in mind is, does this serve the most guests possible, is this area being used in the best way... Similar to when Disney announced the new Fantasy Faire, some people here were upset because they like what it was, but they weren't thinking about the fact that nobody goes there as it is. I've adopted the Micecast metric, are there butts in seats? If the answer is yes, how much of its capacity is it doing, does it get long lines? If the answer to butts in seats was no, then it needs to be replaced. the biggest examples of Disney doing the opposite... Country Bear Jamboree was getting butts in seats and got replaced by the pile of manure, while over in WDW, the Tiki Room: Under New Management wasn't getting butts in seats and didn't get fixed until there was a fire.
    This area is always crowded and serves the same purpose at CA Adventure that the island serves at Disneyland.
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    Re: Big Grizzly Moutain for DCA?

    Quote Originally Posted by DannyLand View Post
    I say yes, even if it's cloned it's going to be differenet. for example, the TSMM was meant for ONLY DCA but is very different at WDW and is now open at Tokyo, and the Mermaid ride is going for WDW as well and looks very different as well.
    The only difference between TSMM at DHS is the queue. The ride system, layout and experience is identical. The same will be true for the Little Mermaid.

    They cannot clone the Grizzly Mountain roller coaster at Hong Kong Disneyland at California Adventure since the space won't allow for it. If they overlay a roller coaster on Grizzly Peak it will have a custom layout because of the existing GRR attraction. The only similarity may be the theme. It would be a welcome addition, but I doubt it will become a reality. Redwood Creek Challenge Trail is a small area and the proximity to the hotel may be problematic.

    Uncle Bob, there is no room behind the mountain facade of Cars Land. Nothing will be built back there so long as Racers remain. That serves as the boundary for the park and an back of house access road.

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