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    Lightbulb Air curtains over DCA and DL shop doors

    I initially posted this on Al's Update thread, but it seemed to deserve a thread of its own. It seems like there is a fairly simple solution that should satisfy both the retailers, and the "Green" team (at least to an extent). I'm surprised they haven't done this already, actually.

    Why not install "air curtains" to be installed over the doorways? These are used a lot in Minnesota where our hot, muggy summers and cold winters cause a dilemma of air rushing out of the building, even with vestibules installed.

    My gym has one of these over the sliding automatic doors; essentially they push a strong current of heated or cooled air down over a doorway to create a "barrier" that doesn't allow conditioned air to seep out as quickly as it normally would. I have seen these over doors that need to stay open all day long too.

    They also work great at keeping our State Bird -- the mosquito -- OUT.

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    Re: Air curtains over DCA and DL shop doors

    This is a great idea and I always wondered why the DLR never implemented these. Yes, the climate is a bit different than at WDW where they use these air curtains extensively, but as you say, I feel that they could solve some issues like the unfortunate perpetually-closed doors on Buena Vista Street.

    I took the Keys to the Kingdom tour at the MK last month, and it was interesting to hear the guide speak about the "open-door policy" at all WDW parks. Every facility MUST keep its door open at all times in an effort to appear more welcoming. The only closed doors are found at the Animal Kingdom restrooms, for the safety of the animals.

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    Re: Air curtains over DCA and DL shop doors

    I thought those were designed to keep bugs out. I never knew they were designed to keep cool air in.

    On a hot day, there are so many air conditioners in the stores on Main Street that push cool air outdoors, that it can feel like Main Street itself is air-conditioned.

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    Re: Air curtains over DCA and DL shop doors

    I had to do a google search on "air curtain." I didn't know thats what they were called!

    Doing a random search, this particular company has a pretty good sales video showing exactly how they work just FYI.

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    Re: Air curtains over DCA and DL shop doors

    They should install some but make seem as they are not their. Sometimes I like the summer because Main street is cooler, all the stores pushing air out lol its nice

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    Re: Air curtains over DCA and DL shop doors

    My opinion on the curtains is probably why they aren't used, I find it annoying to have a lot of air pushed down on me.

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    Re: Air curtains over DCA and DL shop doors

    What you can do is act like you're "stuck in it" and can't get out.

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    Re: Air curtains over DCA and DL shop doors

    I'm not sure what the solution is to resolve the door issue on the shops on BVS, but I'm not really a fan of this idea. They have these at our local grocery store and it bugs me when I walk in and out of the store. Perhaps the force of the air in this particular building is just set too strong (I have very limited experience with these air curtains outside of this one grocer), but I just don't like the air being forced down on me in that manner.

    Perhaps it's just a comfort/personal preference thing.

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    Re: Air curtains over DCA and DL shop doors

    I know years ago (like 20+) the place I worked had them and they were really noisey. I take it that they are better now and don't make much noise?
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    Re: Air curtains over DCA and DL shop doors

    Quote Originally Posted by LacyBelle View Post
    I'm not sure what the solution is to resolve the door issue on the shops on BVS, but I'm not really a fan of this idea. They have these at our local grocery store and it bugs me when I walk in and out of the store. Perhaps the force of the air in this particular building is just set too strong (I have very limited experience with these air curtains outside of this one grocer), but I just don't like the air being forced down on me in that manner.

    Perhaps it's just a comfort/personal preference thing.
    Not only is it uncomfortable being hit with air like that but these air curtains are very noisy. They have to be in order for them to work properly.


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    Re: Air curtains over DCA and DL shop doors

    Well, it would be a win-win solution. Energy would be saved AND revenue could be generated instead of the perception that the stores are closed for business.

    The one at my gym isn't particularly noisy. It may be like any other appliance: how noisy it is depends on how much you spend and how well it is maintained. I can't say I'm bothered by them given that the time I pass through is only a fraction of a second.

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    Re: Air curtains over DCA and DL shop doors

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    I had to do a google search on "air curtain." I didn't know thats what they were called!

    Doing a random search, this particular company has a pretty good sales video showing exactly how they work just FYI.

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    They run about 65-80dbs, which makes them from a converstation level to a yelling level.
    Personally I'd think they're bad show also, as they will stick out as not being in theme (even the hidden ones). When I worked in Education, I remember they had these over the doors in the Food Service areas, and the noise and airflow was quite annoying.

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    Re: Air curtains over DCA and DL shop doors

    At WDW, I would never be able to hear them. I only realized they were there once I felt them.

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    Re: Air curtains over DCA and DL shop doors

    Hello! A couple years ago while at Disneyland I saw a DLR main. cast member working on an overhead ceiling fan near a Main St. shop door and asked him that is must cost the Disney Co. tons of money to keep all the doors open letting all the AC out. He said it would cost the Co. more money to have them closed - he reasoned that the huge AC chillers backstage produce so much cold air that having the doors closed would hamper their production.

    I dont know if that information from him is hooey - but it did sound reasonable.

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    Re: Air curtains over DCA and DL shop doors

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    What you can do is act like you're "stuck in it" and can't get out.
    I was on a cruise in Jamaica once where that forced air was most welcome! I was "stuck" in the entry for a few minutes. If it weren't for all the other people coming in behind me, I would have been "stuck" much longer. lol

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